Interesting scoring factoid

[QuantumMechanic]

The past four games are the first time in Brady's entire career that the Pats have gone four games without scoring or allowing more than 24 points.

 

[oldrover]

The past four games are the first time in Brady's entire career that the Pats have gone four games without scoring or allowing more than 24 points.

And they won all four games.

I attribute that low scoring on offense to a red zone percentage of 50% thus far. 18th in the league.

NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com

Usually they're above 60%, and close to 70%, which they hit in 2007.

For some background, the Cassell-lead Pats were at 50.77% in 2008... the lowest by far in the past ten years... (2009 was 53%)... but that's still a whisker above 50%.

Last time the Brady-led Patriots were at 50% or less for a season in the red zone?

2003. (43%... thank God for Vinatieri)

Three thoughts:

1. IMHO that low RZ number will improve in the second half of the season...

2. The most important part of the defense (points allowed) is already improving (Captain Obvious here LOL)...

and, 3. @QuantumMechanic , I saw your interesting factoid... and I raised it.

 

[mgteich]

and we won with what many here cll one of the worst defenses in the NFL

 

[supafly]

and we won with what many here cll one of the worst defenses in the NFL

I don’t see too many here claiming that the defense in the last month is one of the worst defenses in the NFL. If so, they haven’t been paying attention.

Pretty sure that was a games 1-4 thing.

 

[supafly]

And they won all four games.

I attribute that low scoring on offense to a red zone percentage of 50% thus far. 18th in the league.

NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) on TeamRankings.com

Usually they're above 60%, and close to 70%, which they hit in 2007.

For some background, the Cassell-lead Pats were at 50.77% in 2008... the lowest by far in the past ten years... (2009 was 53%)... but that's still a whisker above 50%.

Last time the Brady-led Patriots were at 50% or less for a season in the red zone?

2003. (43%... thank God for Vinatieri)

Three thoughts:

1. IMHO that low RZ number will improve in the second half of the season...

2. The most important part of the defense (points allowed) is already improving (Captain Obvious here LOL)...

and, 3. @QuantumMechanic , I saw your interesting factoid... and I raised it.

The last 3 games it’s 41.67%, so obviously, the defense has been carrying them more than people realize.

 

[mgteich]

The last 3 games it’s 41.67%, so obviously, the defense has been carrying them more than people realize.

Let's look at the position is so good that ti carrying th team for the past four games.
How many point against to we expect our top defense to give up.

With a good or better defense, how many points should be need from a good or better offense. In other words, has the offense been scoring enough to expect to win with a good defense?

We are used to the patriots scoring 30+ per game, much like a saints team with no defense. Is that reasonable? Less should be needed with a top 10 defense.

 

[supafly]

Let's look at the position is so good that ti carrying th team for the past four games.
How many point against to we expect our top defense to give up.

With a good or better defense, how many points should be need from a good or better offense. In other words, has the offense been scoring enough to expect to win with a good defense?

We are used to the patriots scoring 30+ per game, much like a saints team with no defense. Is that reasonable? Less should be needed with a top 10 defense.

Last 4 games have produced 19, 24, 23, and 21. The defense is allowing over 22 points a game. Not much wiggle room there, although we all expect the RZ issues to improve.

Where is this “top 10 defense” that you speak of, though? Most of us are very happy that we went from historically bad in the first 1/4 of the season to middle of the pack in the next 1/4. Can we reasonably expect this to be a top 10 defense? Even if that turns out to be the case, the offense will still need to score in the mid-late 20s to compete with high-caliber postseason teams that don’t reside in Tampa Bay, NY, or LA.

If the running game can improve just a bit and the RZ issues get ironed out (was 64% last year), then all we need to hope for is consistency and good health to have another excellent shot at a deep run.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

The last 3 games it’s 41.67%, so obviously, the defense has been carrying them more than people realize.

Tom Brady's the worst 2500-yard passer after 8 games in this league.

 

[supafly]

Tom Brady's the worst 2500-yard passer after 8 games in this league.

I don’t think anyone would suggest a ridiculous notion like that, but the fact is that the defense pretty much has been carrying them over the past 4 games.

They’ve allowed 14, 17, 7, and 13, while the offense is scoring touchdowns on approx. 4/10 attempts in the RZ. Obviously, we don’t expect either trend to continue.

 

[captain stone]

Tom Brady's the worst 2500-yard passer after 8 games in this league.

The overwhelming majority of fault with their incompetence in the RZ does not lie with Brady.
I understand that you were being facetious with your comment, but these RZ issues are an embarrassment that will end up turning road victories into defeats, and that right soon.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Last 4 games have produced 19, 24, 23, and 21. The defense is allowing over 22 points a game. .

Apples and oranges..
Your first stat, points scored is over the last 4 games but points allowed is over all 8 games..... To be fair compare last 4 to last 4..
Points scored weeks #5-8 is 87 or 21.75 ppg.
Points allowed weeks #5-8 is 51 or 12.75 ppga

 

[supafly]

Apples and oranges..
Your first stat, points scored is over the last 4 games but points allowed is over all 8 games..... To be fair compare last 4 to last 4..
Points scored weeks #5-8 is 87 or 21.75 ppg.
Points allowed weeks #5-8 is 51 or 12.75 ppga

Yep. Good point.