2017 . Trade Deadline . thread

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Interesting to see how our defense and run defense look in general after losing high. Hope it doesn't fall apart. High was like the QB of the defense. Next man up! A chance for Harris to show his stuff.

 

[Love The Drake]

Schefter thinks the pats will be aggressive at the trading deadline. Idk about that but i am assuming we will try to add another defensive piece. It doesn't have to be a big name.

Ziggy Ziggy

 

[TBR]

I would LOVE Ziggy (even though he’s making $12million this year )

I believe they'd only have to pay ~half of that since it's week 8.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Schefter thinks the pats will be aggressive at the trading deadline. Idk about that but i am assuming we will try to add another defensive piece. It doesn't have to be a big name.

What was the context? Was he giving his opinion or was it what he was hearing from the team? There's a difference because his opinion is no better than Mike Reiss's, etc. but his sources are where he makes his money.

Of course, even if the Pats are aggressive, it doesn't matter if the other side isn't willing to play ball. I remember there was a year where Belichick said he wasn't really expecting to make any moves at the trade deadline, and then suddenly a couple of moves happened, and he later said they essentially fell into his lap. Might have been 2014 with Ayers and Casillas, but I'm not positive.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

I believe they'd only have to pay ~half of that since it's week 8.

Still, half of that wouldn't fit into the Pats's salary cap. They'd need to restructure someone(s) to make it work.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Casillas stinks.

He’s better than our other options.

 

[Mack Herron]

What did he say yesterday?

 

[Love The Drake]

I hate to say it but the freak injuries he's sustained we can't 100 percent count on him as a sustaining stalwart on this defense.
Looks like the reports of the Steelers concern is the right move so far.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

I hate to say it but the freak injuries he's sustained we can't 100 percent count on him as a sustaining stalwart on this defense.
Looks like the reports of the Steelers concern is the right move so far.

Well LB will be a big priority in the offseason. I know they will have rivers back but it usually takes a year befofre someone's back 100 percent from an ACL.

 

[long distance]

Well LB will be a big priority in the offseason. I know they will have rivers back but it usually takes a year befofre someone's back 100 percent from an ACL.

Would not be so sure.
1. Hightower's coming back healthier than in a long time, mentally rested and like Mayo said (talking about his case) with increased knowledge of football spending more time with MP in the film room. Signed through 2020.
2. KVN just got extended and stepped up remarkably.
3. McClellin, Roberts, Harris and M.Flowers all signed through 2018.
4. Langi hopefully can resume his football career and as you mentioned they worked Rivers at OLB in preseason.

People might not like a certain player or all for that matter but having 8 LBs signed at least through 2018 makes the position hardly a priority..
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Ironically . w High out for this season makes LB position less priority for next season..

 

[long distance]

 

[Mack Herron]

I believe they'd only have to pay ~half of that since it's week 8.

 

[primetime]

Well LB will be a big priority in the offseason. I know they will have rivers back but it usually takes a year befofre someone's back 100 percent from an ACL.

Hate to say it, but I wouldn't count on Rivers ever making it. It's nearly impossible to recall a guy who suffered a season-ending injury before ever playing a down in anger and still living up to their draft potential.

 

[supafly]

I believe they'd only have to pay ~half of that since it's week 8.

First off, half of 12m already takes us over the cap, so other players would have to be cut and roster spot(s) freed up, assuming that 2 more guys will be returning from IR, soon. That pretty much ruins any possibility of carrying cap space over into next year, which I think is important.

Also, what are you going to do with him after the next 8 games? He’s already turned down huge money in DET and has gone on record that he’ll consult with N. Suh as to how to handle his upcoming deal. That sounds awful to me as an expensive 8 game rental, and that’s not even bringing up the mid round pick that it would take to get him here for those 8 games, since DET would obviously be looking at a 3rd round comp pick if he leaves in the spring.

No way Ziggy Ansah is coming here this year in my opinion.

 

[supafly]

Would not be so sure.
1. Hightower's coming back healthier than in a long time, mentally rested and like Mayo said (talking about his case) with increased knowledge of football spending more time with MP in the film room. Signed through 2020.
2. KVN just got extended and stepped up remarkably.
3. McClellin, Roberts, Harris and M.Flowers all signed through 2018.
4. Langi hopefully can resume his football career and as you mentioned they worked Rivers at OLB in preseason.

People might not like a certain player or all for that matter but having 8 LBs signed at least through 2018 makes the position hardly a priority..
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Ironically . w High out for this season makes LB position less priority for next season..

I’m not sure that listing players who are currently beat up, out for the year, going through long periods of recovery, and even some uncertainty (HT, Rivers, and Langi), and mixing them in with some JAGs (Roberts, McClellin, M.Flowers) is going to put too many minds at ease as it pertains to the need of LB.

If anything, after reading your post, I now want them to draft about sixteen guys for reinforcements at the position.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Hate to say it, but I wouldn't count on Rivers ever making it. It's nearly impossible to recall a guy who suffered a season-ending injury before ever playing a down in anger and still living up to their draft potential.

Flowers only appeared in a single game his rookie year before going on IR. It's not an identical situation, but it's the most similar recent comparison. I think you're correct with the overall assumption, though, that not playing greatly hampers the learning process. Not too many players recover after missing a full rookie season.

 

[TBR]

First off, half of 12m already takes us over the cap, so other players would have to be cut and roster spot(s) freed up, assuming that 2 more guys will be returning from IR, soon. That pretty much ruins any possibility of carrying cap space over into next year, which I think is important.

Also, what are you going to do with him after the next 8 games? He’s already turned down huge money in DET and has gone on record that he’ll consult with N. Suh as to how to handle his upcoming deal. That sounds awful to me as an expensive 8 game rental, and that’s not even bringing up the mid round pick that it would take to get him here for those 8 games, since DET would obviously be looking at a 3rd round comp pick if he leaves in the spring.

No way Ziggy Ansah is coming here this year in my opinion.

Yeah, unfortunately it seems like it would take some work to make it happen. Most likely with someone re-doing their contract to make room. I didn't look into much of the financials when I brought up Perry's suggestion. Very unlikely indeed. Also didn't know about him turning down a big contract and his mention of Suh.

 

[long distance]

I’m not sure that listing players who are currently beat up, out for the year, going through long periods of recovery, and even some uncertainty (HT, Rivers, and Langi), and mixing them in with some JAGs (Roberts, McClellin, M.Flowers) is going to put too many minds at ease as it pertains to the need of LB.

If anything, after reading your post, I now want them to draft about sixteen guys for reinforcements at the position.

Don't care for JAG tags . so ugly.. and empty

And if drafting 16 LBs you've never seen play an NFL game puts your mind at ease then certainly go ahead..

My mind is at ease when I see players that were selected to wear Pats uniform healthy, under contract, doing their job

I can understand appeal of the unknown though. Most players that are JAGs now were binkies once..

 

[p8ryts]

On the real though I am not advocating Trading Phillip Dorsett. I think his ceiling is somewhere between Hogan and Cooks that would give us a solid outside receiver either way. That's in line with the fact that we suck at Drafting them...WR's that is.

I don't know what Dorsett is. He is at best the third option on any play and Tom doesn't really look at him. I have to reserve judgment

 

[PatsFanInVa]

I don't know what Dorsett is. He is at best the third option on any play and Tom doesn't really look at him. I have to reserve judgment

agree w reserve judgment... if they start clicking, they start clicking, then everybody be like "what's a Dorsett? How'd that happen?"