2017 . Trade Deadline . thread

[reflexblue]

Any chance the Pats could coax Demarcus Ware out of retirement?

NEM would love it!

Whos this NEM you speak of?

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Whos this NEM you speak of?

You have to give him credit, he had "Draft Demarcus Ware" as his signature for a year before that draft.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

What's the hidden (to me at least) meaning of this tweet that suggests he might be back?

 

[PScottman]

Barely, so I don’t think he is any part of th answer.

Never said he was, but his best LB skill to my memory was coverage...of the limited skills he had lining up with the D.

With the IR designated timeline nearing most likely scenario is evaluation of those returning and their impact to the club before any moves. But BB has surprised us before.

 

[long distance]

Id be surprised if he can give anything significant at this point. He worked out for the whole league and they all passed while signing unknown SFAs ..

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Korey Toomer? Anyone heard about this guy? He plays for the chargers. They mentioned him as a trade target. Very athletic numbers. 42 inch vertical leap.

 

[HawaiianPatsfan]

Deone Bucannon MLB "money backer" for the Arizona Cardinals.

1. The Cardinals season is all but lost.

2. He's on his 4th year of his 5th year contract (drafted 27th in the 2014 draft)

3. Has been one of the best coverage linebacker in the league since moving to the position

4. Has and can play the Nickel backer and SS position, and do so competently. Could be a replacement or backup up for chung as well.

5. Just played his first game of the season this past Sunday after being activated off the PUP list. Had 12 tackles (11) solo, and an interception. Perfect time for ARZ to shop him.

6. Undersized LB's are finding success across the league. (i.e. Telvin Smith just signed a 4 year 44 million $ contract with Jacksonville, which one ca argue it was rightfully deserved)

7. He's owed 8.7 million next year if he's on the roster, no dead hit if he's not, however it is guaranteed if he's injured.

8. MOST important, it's a position this team desperately needs.

I say we send them a conditional 6th that could turn into a 5th with playing incentives, and Dwayne Allen.

They've been hurting at the TE position, and with Palmer out, I'm sure they are going to be forced to run more with AP, so it makes sense.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Deone Bucannon MLB "money backer" for the Arizona Cardinals.

1. The Cardinals season is all but lost.

2. He's on his 4th year of his 5th year contract (drafted 27th in the 2014 draft)

3. Has been one of the best coverage linebacker in the league since moving to the position

4. Has and can play the Nickel backer and SS position, and do so competently. Could be a replacement or backup up for chung as well.

5. Just played his first game of the season this past Sunday after being activated off the PUP list. Had 12 tackles (11) solo, and an interception. Perfect time for ARZ to shop him.

6. Undersized LB's are finding success across the league. (i.e. Telvin Smith just signed a 4 year 44 million $ contract with Jacksonville, which one ca argue it was rightfully deserved)

7. He's owed 8.7 million next year if he's on the roster, no dead hit if he's not, however it is guaranteed if he's injured.

8. MOST important, it's a position this team desperately needs.

I say we send them a conditional 6th that could turn into a 5th with playing incentives, and Dwayne Allen.

They've been hurting at the TE position, and with Palmer out, I'm sure they are going to be forced to run more with AP, so it makes sense.

Their season when down the drain when palmer went down. Interesting option but are the cardinals willing to deal him?

 

[long distance]

Deone Bucannon MLB "money backer" for the Arizona Cardinals.

1. The Cardinals season is all but lost.

2. He's on his 4th year of his 5th year contract (drafted 27th in the 2014 draft)

3. Has been one of the best coverage linebacker in the league since moving to the position

4. Has and can play the Nickel backer and SS position, and do so competently. Could be a replacement or backup up for chung as well.

5. Just played his first game of the season this past Sunday after being activated off the PUP list. Had 12 tackles (11) solo, and an interception. Perfect time for ARZ to shop him.

6. Undersized LB's are finding success across the league. (i.e. Telvin Smith just signed a 4 year 44 million $ contract with Jacksonville, which one ca argue it was rightfully deserved)

7. He's owed 8.7 million next year if he's on the roster, no dead hit if he's not, however it is guaranteed if he's injured.

8. MOST important, it's a position this team desperately needs.

I say we send them a conditional 6th that could turn into a 5th with playing incentives, and Dwayne Allen.

They've been hurting at the TE position, and with Palmer out, I'm sure they are going to be forced to run more with AP, so it makes sense.

One can certainly appreciate the effort..
But didn't the points 2-7 give you a clue that he might not be available?

 

[Sciz]

Why would the Cardinals trade away one of their key players for a 5th round pick and a half-season rental at tight end? I’m not sure the Patriots’ second round pick would get that trade done.

 

[HawaiianPatsfan]

Their season when down the drain when palmer went down. Interesting option but are the cardinals willing to deal him?

Hard to know? In theory I would think they would at least consider it. Maybe not for what I suggested in compensation, but I think they would. Its important to note they drafted Haason Roddick this year, who can replace him at the position.

 

[HawaiianPatsfan]

Why would the Cardinals trade away one of their key players for a 5th round pick and a half-season rental at tight end? I’m not sure the Patriots’ second round pick would get that trade done.

2nd round pick. lol

They already have Karlos Dansby and Haason Reddick, he's a luxury at this point, and they won't be contenders this year, and most likely not next even with a rookie QB.

 

[Pats2000]

Supreme Court justice Felix Frankfurter?

No Hybrid Left Guard/Wideout Frank Franklinson

 

[Sciz]

2nd round pick. lol

They already have Karlos Dansby and Haason Reddick, he's a luxury at this point, and they won't be contenders this year, and most likely not next even with a rookie QB.

Lower your opinion of Karlos Dansby by about 90% and it will all make sense. He turns 36 next week and is on a one year deal. He has no impact on Bucannon’s future with the team.

 

[patchick]

You have to give him credit, he had "Draft Demarcus Ware" as his signature for a year before that draft.

And doubtless many fans think Belichick made a dumb mistake by not drafting Ware. The only problem, of course, is that Ware went #11 overall while the Patriots drafted in their traditional #32 spot.

(The Pats still made out ok, though. Remember who they ended up drafting that year?)

 

[HawaiianPatsfan]

Lower your opinion of Karlos Dansby by about 90% and it will all make sense. He turns 36 next week and is on a one year deal. He has no impact on Bucannon’s future with the team.

You still said a second round pick. lol. Just let this sink in, some people thought the best the team could realistically get for Jimmy was a second. The Seahawks gave up a second for Sheldon Richardson and many/most felt they paid a fools ransom, so Ill give you that. However, Sheldon Richardson is a much better player at his position.
When I originally made this post, I had yet to read about Hightower being out for the season. So teams will likely ask for more now, and we also need it more, so Id be okay with a 4th/3rd.

 

[Tunescribe]

The Pats are low on trade capital unless someone needs a running back and is willing to part with a decent defender. BB already has frittered away several draft picks.

 

[Ross12]

The Pats are low on trade capital unless someone needs a running back and is willing to part with a decent defender. BB already has frittered away several draft picks.

Very true and something I think a lot of people are forgetting. BB has already moved a lot of draft assets recently for deals that haven’t all worked out.

 

[Ross12]

What's the hidden (to me at least) meaning of this tweet that suggests he might be back?

Many people are reading that tweet that way. If it’s in regards to his career then I don’t know what else it’d be referencing, especially considering the timing. At the same time, it’s just one single “looking eyes” emoji so it could mean literally anything.

Even if it is in relation to the Pats, there’s no reason to think it means they want him - could even just mean “just saw this happen - I hope they call me.”

I hate Twitter.

 

[captain stone]

Who would be available for trade? I can imagine better players, but not necessarily better available players, unfortunately.

There are LBs available on the street right now who are better than Roberts.