49ers Shopping NaVorro Bowman [UPDATE: Bowman released; now signed by Raiders]

[luuked]

After all his major injuries Bowman doesnt sound particularly exciting but I didnt watch enough 49er games to have any sensible opinion on it. Lets see how it shakes out..

 

[Froob]

I miss him too, but I think Miguel is still here every now and then, just not as often due to his other responsibilities, which obviously now include a new gig over at BSJ. If anyone subscribes, they should send an email to BSJ reminding them that following Miguel is a big reason for the new subscription.

I'm just guessing along with you of course, but I couldn't see any reason why we couldn't sign Navarro Bowman if the team really wanted to. He's certainly not going to command anything close to his last pact. Of course, I'd probably prefer that we continue to carry as much available cap space over into the next season.

Rather lose Miguel a year early than a year late. Ian knows what he’s doing.

 

[maineman209]

From what I've read, it appears that the Niners fully-guaranteed Bowman's 2017 $6.75 mil salary, with an offset. If true, that means the Pats (or any team) could hypothetically sign him for the $900k vet minimum and the Niners would be paying him the remaining $5.85 mil for 2017.

So, for another team to "outbid" the Pats (presumably one of the handful of "legit" contending teams), they'd need to offer Bowman a fully-guaranteed salary greater than $6.75 mil, or some significant bonus money that wouldn't affect the offset, or a longer-term contract that would keep him near $6.75 mil for 2017 with some additional guaranteed money for 2018.

At age 29 (he turns 30 next March), even though he's suffered significant injuries that have sapped his athleticism, Bowman may very well be seeking the longer-term deal.

 

[maineman209]

FWIW, Bowman's stats for the past few seasons:

2013 = Bowman's best season (98% of defensive snaps, 1040 total for regular season):
9 PD/2 INT (one a 93-yd TD) ... 6 FF/2 FR ... 5.0 sacks ... 145 TT

2014 = missed entire season due to injury

2015 = 9.6 TT/game (16 games) 96% of defensive snaps (returning from injury)
2 PD/0 INT ... 1 FF ... 2.5 sacks ... 144 TT

2016 = 8.8 TT/game (4 games) 96% of defensive snaps (till injury)
2 PD/1 INT ... 1 FF ... 1.0 sacks ... 35 TT
(extrapolated to 16 games = 8 PD ... 4 INT ... 4 FF ... 4.0 sacks ... 140 TT)

2017 = 7.4 TT/game (5) 94% of defensive snaps (returning from injury)
1 PD/0 INT ... 0 FF ... 0 sacks ... 37 TT
(extrapolated = 3 PD ... 118 TT)

 

[Uptown]

FWIW, Bowman's stats for the past few seasons:

2013 = Bowman's best season (98% of defensive snaps, 1040 total for regular season):
9 PD/2 INT (one a 93-yd TD) ... 6 FF/2 FR ... 5.0 sacks ... 145 TT

2014 = missed entire season due to injury

2015 = 9.6 TT/game (16 games) 96% of defensive snaps (returning from injury)
2 PD/0 INT ... 1 FF ... 2.5 sacks ... 144 TT

2016 = 8.8 TT/game (4 games) 96% of defensive snaps (till injury)
2 PD/1 INT ... 1 FF ... 1.0 sacks ... 35 TT
(extrapolated to 16 games = 8 PD ... 4 INT ... 4 FF ... 4.0 sacks ... 140 TT)

2017 = 7.4 TT/game (5) 94% of defensive snaps (returning from injury)
1 PD/0 INT ... 0 FF ... 0 sacks ... 37 TT
(extrapolated = 3 PD ... 118 TT)

Sign em’.

 

[maineman209]

Sign em.

Based on the way he was playing in his second season back after his 2014 injury, a 2-3 year deal might not be a horrible idea, even if he's not back to his old self for 2017. Especially considering that he's only 29.

 

[maineman209]

Yeah there's probably another Kyle Van Noy out there that we can trade for...

Speaking of Belichick must really like him because just eye balling it and listening to what film guys have said he is pretty mediocre out there on the field.

Through week-4, Van Noy played 100% of the defensive snaps. His snaps also represented about 65% of ALL snaps played by LBs for that stretch.

 

[50-yard-line]

There's gotta be some other LB out there with a better salary that we can sign instead. Right?

He doesn't have a salary. He was released.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Achilles injury are tough to come back from especially in football. Idk about him yet but i wonder if the 49ers are willing to deal aaron lynch.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Broncos NOT interested in navorro bowman

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Broncos NOT interested in navorro bowman

Like they need more defense. Their run defense's number 1 right now.

 

[Uptown]

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

As far as the cap goes, Bowman would only need to pay the Vet minimum (around $1MM minus the 5 games he already played in), since his 2017 money is being paid for by SF. So the cap should NOT be an impediment to signing him. However what this defense needs is a "speed LB" and I'm not sure Bowman fits that bill.

Check the tires for sure, but somehow I feel he's bound for the Raiders. He can play for a contending team and not have to move his family across the country or leave them behind if he didn't want to uproot them.

I miss Miguel. He'd have already given us the cap implications of a possible signing of Bowman. The rest of us are guessing.

You answered your own cap question.
However with multiple teams interested, I think somebody is gonna pay him lots more than vet minimum.

If he was our answer for a "speed LB" I don't think he would have been released w/o anyone interested in a trade, even a conditional late rounder.

 

[Love The Drake]

It's possible he won't be looking for good money he may just want a ring

 

[Uptown]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports free agent ILB Navorro Bowman is expected to sign with a new team "no later than Monday."

“It is not a surprise considering the 49ers said several teams were interested in a trade before they decided to release the linebacker on Friday. The Raiders and Patriots are two contenders who could use some help at linebacker.”

 

[dafoe2016]

Shoot, if Denver or KC gets him...

Can he play QB? Denver is not a contender with that offense. KC is overrated.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Can he play QB? Denver is not a contender with that offense. KC is overrated.

Disagree with KC. Alex Smith has had a great season to this point. No walk in the park. You gotta give them their due.

 

[patsinthesnow]

I watched him some yesterday. I tend to agree with Breer. He seems like an upgrade over Roberts/Harris & could provide some stability. Roberts’ instincts are causing some big runs.

We are giving up 6+ ypc on first down. If Bowman can help fix that he’s worth signing. This defense needs some 3rd and 5+ & let the secondary do the rest.

 

[Ivan]

I don't know what specific role he'd be playing, but it seems as though we're in need of athletic LBs who can cover and not 1st/2nd down run stuffers. Otherwise, David Harris might be getting more looks.

Obviously, just my own personal take on it, and it's surely possible that Belichick may disagree. The reports from SF have stated that he was playing a bit of a different role and that he had lost some of the athleticism that made him so special.

kennyb is just saying that the Patriots suck.

 

[PatsGuy]

Yeah there's probably another Kyle Van Noy out there that we can trade for...

Speaking of Belichick must really like him because just eye balling it and listening to what film guys have said he is pretty mediocre out there on the field.

LOL