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Winston putting up good numbers on a decent giants secondary. Can only imagine what he will do against this secondary.
 
Thats the problem when trying to have a discussion with reading comprehension challenged people like you. Nobody is disputing that the defense is bad right now. What people are saying is that based on how the last 6-7 years have gone they have faith that as always that unit will be improve to be good enough for another post season run.

But you and many others keep making those strawman arguments as if there is someone who was happy with todays performance.

That's fair the Pats always start slow and improve in November/December but you have to admit here has never been another Pats defense this bad in the Belichick era, nowhere near it.

The have many bad defenses that let teams march down the field 4-5 yards at a time and tried to stiffen in the redzone but the amount of big plays this defense is giving up is ridiculous and nothing like even 2011.

The Pats are giving up over 7 yards per play over the course of 4 games, that is unheard of.
 
Rooting for the Raiders over the Broncos today.

Raiders > Broncos > Chiefs will be my rooting hierarchy when they play each-other, for now at least
 
Raiders defense is getting ran over.
 
It looks like the bucs might lose. Two desperate teams on thursday. This defense will make Winston look like a stud though
 
The only solace the Patriots have is that the rest of the league is mediocre at best.
 
That Denver defence is nasty, especially in Denver with that crowd noise. Carr couldn't even look up before he was sacked.
 
Carr injured, gingerly walks off field and EJ Manuel now playing QB
 
Raiders season might be over, Carr looks like he's got something broken in his back and EJ Manuel is their backup
 
The only solace the Patriots have is that the rest of the league is mediocre at best.

Yeah, as bad as the Pats have looked I can only think of a couple teams that have looked significantly better. And one of them is the Rams, which definitely won't last.
 
TD Bucs! Up by 5 with a little under 8min to go

**** yeah, as said, rooting for the Giants going 0-4 is all I have to be happy about this week.
 
Raiders season might be over, Carr looks like he's got something broken in his back and EJ Manuel is their backup
I'm not watching, how bad did the injury look? I hope hes okay, but eliminating Oakland only helps us.
 
Oakland is in some serious trouble if Carr is out.

Denver has a loud crowd. Why can't Pats fans be that loud?
 
Good game for Blount 121 yards on 15 carries.
 
I'm not watching, how bad did the injury look? I hope hes okay, but eliminating Oakland only helps us.

He went back to the locker room for x-rays and looked gimpy, and Romo was basically having flashbacks in the announcers booth. Looked pretty bad.
 
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