Official Post Game Thread - Chiefs at Patriots

[bormio]

Can you not reply to me without calling me a ******? Settle down. That's the problem. Brady wasn't pressured, but acted like he was playing Denver at mile high

He was pressured at Mile High. Brady was not scared, and did not look scared. He was uncertain and not in rhythm because no one was open. It happens even to great QBs.

 

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

Wasn't just that. He looked scared at times and did miss some passes that might of been the difference. Not to mention he got a penalty that potentially cost us a TD.

I think if Brady played like Brady tonight, we win.

Even the GOAT needs a defense. The defense only felt like showing up for 3 series tonight. He's not saving the team from an L when you get that kind of defensive showing.

 

[pherein]

Drew Brees>>>Alex Smith. Their WRs were OK - Gilmore/McCourty blew the coverage on Hill and the other bomb was to a RB. Smith is limited in what he does - helped tonight by being able to run effectively on first down.

Yeah I know, I saw a similarity when you played us in 2009, you never leave a WR wide open, that was a wow moment. I dont know KC WR's well, they might be good.
I know Brees is probably better than alex, Thomas, Michael is probably better than and WR in KC, Coleman, Brandon is really becoming a cheap not as good colston.
Lewis, Tommylee is something very special. PLUS AP, Ingram, your worried if you can cover them ? No probabaly not, just because of Brees, but why care weve had the worst defense with an offense that ranked 1-5 sense 2006 , lol.
Saints D is not stopping that great NE offense , especially with cooks. You will just kill the clock so we cant get on field or score, and in the end Brees needs 35pts to win. That simple, there is no defense in NO. Just buy us a drink when you win and we can have fun trade stories with good fans we like ok.

 

[archstanton543]

Even the GOAT needs a defense. The defense only felt like showing up for 3 series tonight. He's not saving the team from an L when you get that kind of defensive showing.

I suppose but the O didn't exactly cover themselves in glory tonight. Too many drops. And a baffling decision to not kick a FG when points were at a premium. Seems like even the great BB was buying into the hype in the first half when he should have known better

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

Yeah I know, I saw a similarity when you played us in 2009, you never leave a WR wide open, that was a wow moment. I dont know KC WR's well, they might be good.
I know Brees is probably better than alex, Thomas, Michael is probably better than and WR in KC, Coleman, Brandon is really becoming a cheap not as good colston.
Lewis, Tommylee is something very special. PLUS AP, Ingram, your worried if you can cover them ? No probabaly not, just because of Brees, but why care weve had the worst defense with an offense that ranked 1-5 sense 2006 , lol.
Saints D is not stopping that great NE offense , especially with cooks. You will just kill the clock so we cant get on field or score, and in the end Brees needs 35pts to win. That simple, there is no defense in NO. Just buy us a drink when you win and we can have fun trade stories with good fans we like ok.

That's BS, you guys put together a pretty nice D in the off-season.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

He was pressured at Mile High. Brady was not scared, and did not look scared. He was uncertain and not in rhythm because no one was open. It happens even to great QBs.

Cooks was wide open all night, and drew quite a few DPI flags

 

[pherein]

That's BS, you guys put together a pretty nice D in the off-season.

No we put together a may be ok defense with nothing proven right, dont mean **** till game day right ? Our idiots thought they had this fixed before right ? and was not ? I will have faith on game day, but have none the rest of the time. We have not had a good defense sense 2006, even before that. Tell you the truth Brees has been a Saint to even say here. He might have found a better team with medium WR's and a decent D and probably won 2 SB's, saints are killing his career, not stats SP is very smart, SP and BB would be unstoppable together, but SP dosnt know defense

 

[TB_Helmet]

I'm seeing something tonight, I've NEVER seen before. Ignorance is bliss though. Carry on.

You must not have been watching game 4 in 2014 against the same team that beat us tonight.

 

[stelfans]

As Tyrion would say: we're ****ed!

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

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Perspective from new fan

SB51 was the first football game I ever watched. An earth-shattering experience that (sort of) changed my life. This was the first regular season game I ever watched (live).

Not sure how I’m going to sleep tonight. I’ve taken to falling asleep to some football podcast, but I can’t bear to listen to any of them now. I will probably be avoiding any non-patriot podcast for a while.

I try to think of that Chiefs game in 2014 and the opening game in 2003. I find that it’s so easy to marvel at great stories in history, but when you are living it, the darkness seems so heavy and lasting. It feels like an audacity of hope, to dare to believe such greatness will happen upon me as well.

Anyway, the season is long. I guess tomorrow is a new chapter for me in experiencing the ups and downs of football fandom. Very silly to talk like it’s all about me, but I guess that’s what it feels like to be a fan?

I think its going to be fine. We are spoiled and 8-8 probably gets us into the playoffs. We will have a winning record though.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

And a baffling decision to not kick a FG when points were at a premium.

Disagree. I thought that was a great call. Take the chance to get a big lead on KC and turn the screws on them. And if you fail they start at their own 9. It was less than half a yard to go! I was disappointed with the play call itself, though, but not just because they got stopped.

 

[TB_Helmet]

I think this team might have had too much smoke blown up its ass the past seventh months.

What they did last year was legendary and people are still talking about it. I've been watching a lot of NFL Network the past few days and reading other football websites and this team has been hyped more than any other Patriots team I can remember.

I wonder how much of that gets through to the players. Belichick usually keeps them humble but they still might be reading their own headlines. Also some of the new guys had some problems today, maybe they all thought they could just step in to the system and suddenly be Patriot-level. Hopefully they learned that's not the case. As BB said in the pregame clip where he visited his old high school, you have to earn it.

This team has to earn it all over again. 2016 is over and they just learned that the hard way. Hopefully they are quick learners.

 

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

You must not have been watching game 4 in 2014 against the same team that beat us tonight.

Game 1 against Miami was bad too. One thing Tom didn't do tonight he did in both of those games:

Turned the ball over. Also, if he really wants something you'll never see from TB again, he should google the 2003 season opener: 4 ints, sub 50%.

Brady was off tonight, but still had some good throws and a couple great deep balls. He needs cohesion with WRs, and hopefully they don't keep dropping like flies. They also struggled with separation tonight.

 

[bormio]

Cooks was wide open all night, and drew quite a few DPI flags

And he targeted Cooks on many of those occasions (hence the DPI). I do not recall many bad throws to Cooks and I am certain KC was doubling him a lot because Peters was erasing Hogan all by his lonesome self.

 

[supafly]

Cooks was wide open all night, and drew quite a few DPI flags

I think we should settle down on this kind of talk. Cooks and Brady have lots of work to do in order to get into the kind of rhythm that we're used to seeing. As I've said, part of Cooks' strength is wasted due to the loss of a viable slot receiver.

Cooks appeared to be double covered with safety help, so I'm not sure that he was always open last night, as you're suggesting. Pretty sure Tom, Josh, or Bill would've picked up on that. Also, exactly how many of these "quite a few DPI flags" did Cooks draw? Just curious.

 

[ViperGTS]

I think we should settle down on this kind of talk. Cooks and Brady have lots of work to do in order to get into the kind of rhythm that we're used to seeing. As I've said, part of Cooks' strength is wasted due to the loss of a viable slot receiver.

Cooks appeared to be double covered with safety help, so I'm not sure that he was always open last night, as you're suggesting. Pretty sure Tom, Josh, or Bill would've picked up on that. Also, exactly how many of these "quite a few DPI flags" did Cooks draw? Just curious.

One that I remember.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

I think we should settle down on this kind of talk. Cooks and Brady have lots of work to do in order to get into the kind of rhythm that we're used to seeing. As I've said, part of Cooks' strength is wasted due to the loss of a viable slot receiver.

Cooks appeared to be double covered with safety help, so I'm not sure that he was always open last night, as you're suggesting. Pretty sure Tom, Josh, or Bill would've picked up on that. Also, exactly how many of these "quite a few DPI flags" did Cooks draw? Just curious.

There were a few plays where Cooks beat his man with a double move, but brady was keyed in on Gronk or Amendola and simply didn't look cooks way

Cook caught a 54 yard throw, he had 88 yards receiving..had 2 DPIs including a key one in third quarter in the end zone that set up go ahead TD

 

[supafly]

Disagree. I thought that was a great call. Take the chance to get a big lead on KC and turn the screws on them. And if you fail they start at their own 9. It was less than half a yard to go! I was disappointed with the play call itself, though, but not just because they got stopped.

I didn't mind the call at all. Like you said, the playcall sucked. As a matter of fact, both 4th down calls were predictable as hell, especially with Devlin as the lead blocker. I suppose that's just one of those situations where everyone knows what's coming and it's just will vs will.

 

[bormio]

I thought it was one DPI and 2 defensive holding calls.

 

[fnordcircle]

It wasn't a deciding factor in the game, but the refs were definitely allowing defenders to grab and hold a receiver's arm. Hogan had his right arm held on at least two occasions.

If they're gonna allow that I hope we take advantage.