Aaron Hernandez Dead

[Brit patriot]

I am blown away he had a gay prison lover. I am pretty sure my reaction to getting locked away wouldn't be to suck off Big Leroy....

Maybe this is a reason he felt he had a lot to prove....conjecture, but the story never really made sense anyway

 

[Galeb]

I'm not that forgiving. Let me explain.

Live is about impulse control, dealing with life events that shape our behavior and choices.

There have been a number of scientific studies that have concluded that a vast majority of people who have murdered do suffer from some kind of chemical imbalance or malformed parts of their brain. With that said, as humans we all have some kind of chemical imbalance or have not developed 100% perfectly. It is that which shapes our behavior, motor skills, etc.

The studies go on to say that sometimes life events serve as catalysts which then send the person down the path of sociopathic or psychopathic behavior.

Some people poo-poo the studies. I think there is some validity to them.

I think in AHs case, while he deserves to be locked up or face he death penalty because he is a threat to society, I think its important to understand why he is who is is (or was)

The assumption that chemical imbalances are always the cause and behavior is always the effect is flawed. Habitual behavior, conditioning and experience have a huge effect on brain chemistry. Not surprising since the acknowledgement of this bi-directional relationship is anathema to pharmaceutical companies.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The assumption that chemical imbalances are always the cause and behavior is always the effect is flawed. Habitual behavior, conditioning and experience have a huge effect on brain chemistry. Not surprising since the acknowledgement of this bi-directional relationship is anathema to pharmaceutical companies.

Completely agree. The study did not say 100% of the murders or perps of rape or crimes against children all had defective cognitive or chemical issues.

It would be interesting to see what led to AH path to murder. Genetics or environment.

 

[Jackson 2]

As a millenial I laughed pretty hard at this lol

I'm right on the edge as a millenial tho at 34.. I think the oldest millenial is 35

Going on 8...

 

[fightingirish595]

I am blown away he had a gay prison lover. I am pretty sure my reaction to getting locked away wouldn't be to suck off Big Leroy....

Maybe this is a reason he felt he had a lot to prove....conjecture, but the story never really made sense anyway

The can changes people. I mean even the mafia was okay with their associates having gay sex in the can, Im not suprised at all personally


Just read that a lawyer wants the Pats to pay Lloyds mother the money that they owe hernandez. What do you all think of this, It would be a nice gesture but I dont think they are in anyway obligated to do this. Id rather see it go to Hernandez kid. Just because hes bad, does not make his kid or the mother bad

 

[PatsDeb]

The can changes people. I mean even the mafia was okay with their associates having gay sex in the can, Im not suprised at all personally


Just read that a lawyer wants the Pats to pay Lloyds mother the money that they owe hernandez. What do you all think of this, It would be a nice gesture but I dont think they are in anyway obligated to do this. Id rather see it go to Hernandez kid. Just because hes bad, does not make his kid or the mother bad

There will be court procedures to determine whether the Pats have to pay (looks like they will have to do so) and who gets the money. I am sure as we speak someone is filing to be the administrator of Aaron Hernandez's probate estate (or executor, if he left a will). That person will be responsible for collecting any funds owed by the Pats (and from any other sources) and distributing the funds to Aaron Hernandez's creditors and heirs. Since he and his fiance were not married, I don't believe she has standing to inherit, although his daughter certainly does. The Lloyd family (and the other two murder victims, and perhaps even the "friend" supposedly shot in the face) will undoubtedly file claims against his estate as well. In most circumstances creditors get paid first, then the heirs get the rest. It would be in everyone's best interests for those involved to agree to a settlement where everybody gets a fair share. Unfortunately, because of the circumstances it's likely that there will be litigation for years (first with the Pats and then between the creditors and the heir(s)) and nobody seeing anything for a long time.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Nobody does not include the lawyers whose billable hours will keep on ticking

 

[fightingirish595]

There will be court procedures to determine whether the Pats have to pay (looks like they will have to do so) and who gets the money. I am sure as we speak someone is filing to be the administrator of Aaron Hernandez's probate estate (or executor, if he left a will). That person will be responsible for collecting any funds owed by the Pats (and from any other sources) and distributing the funds to Aaron Hernandez's creditors and heirs. Since he and his fiance were not married, I don't believe she has standing to inherit, although his daughter certainly does. The Lloyd family (and the other two murder victims, and perhaps even the "friend" supposedly shot in the face) will undoubtedly file claims against his estate as well. In most circumstances creditors get paid first, then the heirs get the rest. It would be in everyone's best interests for those involved to agree to a settlement where everybody gets a fair share. Unfortunately, because of the circumstances it's likely that there will be litigation for years (first with the Pats and then between the creditors and the heir(s)) and nobody seeing anything for a long time.

I dont want to sound like a unremorseful A**hole here, so if i do I apologize. But why is Lloyds family entitled to hernandez money. What I am saying is I dont understand why they are even in consideration to get anything (If its more than what the procedure has cost them, if anything) I mean they weren't entitled when he was alive? Right? So why now? If anything I believe all they should get is a money amount this whole ordeal has cost them and nothing more. He was convicted and now hes dead. Justice is done.

 

[Bradyking12]

The can changes people. I mean even the mafia was okay with their associates having gay sex in the can, Im not suprised at all personally


Just read that a lawyer wants the Pats to pay Lloyds mother the money that they owe hernandez. What do you all think of this, It would be a nice gesture but I dont think they are in anyway obligated to do this. Id rather see it go to Hernandez kid. Just because hes bad, does not make his kid or the mother bad

The gay report wasn't real came from daily news

 

[Dr Pain]

The gay report wasn't real came from daily news

Daily Mail. Not the gold standard but not one to dismiss out of hand.

 

[BadMoFo]

I can't imagine he would out himself in a suicide note, not very thug-like. Not doubting he found some prison lovin' but I think that's something he would've taken to the grave.

 

[BadMoFo]

 

[Brewskies]

Another chapter in a story we will never find the truth about.

 

[1960Pats]

it actually started with Michele McPhee which EEI made it know to the gen pop during an interview with her,she had in a book(i believe)

i have a lot of dislike for the Calahan and Manihole show, but i quite wont call it KKK or 3rd Riech, they are a different class of assholes

The third person in the booth started the ball rolling but EEI went downhill fast when Minihane came along. I enjoyed Dennis & Callahan when they were a twosome.

 

[jah]

I can't imagine he would out himself in a suicide note, not very thug-like. Not doubting he found some prison lovin' but I think that's something he would've taken to the grave.

For some, "take to the grave" just means "no one gets to know as long as I'm alive to be embarrassed".

 

[BadMoFo]

For some, "take to the grave" just means "no one gets to know as long as I'm alive to be embarrassed".

Well yea, and now he just added one more thing that his poor daughter will have to discuss with her psychologist during a lifetime of therapy.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

There will be court procedures to determine whether the Pats have to pay (looks like they will have to do so) and who gets the money.

I'm no lawyer but I don't think anyone will get what's left of the contract. Although the murder conviction is, in essence, thrown out as it was on appeal, he was convicted on gun charges in the second trial. Unless that was already appealed, that conviction will stand as he was convicted and is wasn't under appeal when he died.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

The assumption that chemical imbalances are always the cause and behavior is always the effect is flawed. Habitual behavior, conditioning and experience have a huge effect on brain chemistry. Not surprising since the acknowledgement of this bi-directional relationship is anathema to pharmaceutical companies.

Not really, because antidepressants and antipsychotics are to my knowledge always prescribed in combination with behavioral therapy.

Every clinical trial since the 80s that I am aware of studied both in combination, and this duality has lone been well-known in the pharma industry. In fact their clinical trial data basically established the concept as fact, since there were control arms in many studies, with behavioral treatment used without drugs and drug treatment used without behavioral therapy. Neither worked as well alone in the cases I know about.

disclaimer: I used to work in the pharma industry in neuroscience, but I have been in academia for 11 years.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I am blown away he had a gay prison lover. I am pretty sure my reaction to getting locked away wouldn't be to suck off Big Leroy....

Maybe this is a reason he felt he had a lot to prove....conjecture, but the story never really made sense anyway

Apparantly he had a sexual relationship with a high school buddy.

Tragic, bizarre and sad are no longer words strong enough to describe this story.

 

[Galeb]

Not really, because antidepressants and antipsychotics are to my knowledge always prescribed in combination with behavioral therapy.

Every clinical trial since the 80s that I am aware of studied both in combination, and this duality has lone been well-known in the pharma industry. In fact their clinical trial data basically established the concept as fact, since there were control arms in many studies, with behavioral treatment used without drugs and drug treatment used without behavioral therapy. Neither worked as well alone in the cases I know about.

disclaimer: I used to work in the pharma industry in neuroscience, but I have been in academia for 11 years.

The problem is that when drugs are taken, it simply temporarily changes the brain chemistry. Over time the body begins to rely on the drug and produces even less of the chemical in which they were deficient. Regardless of the accompanying behavioral therapy, it is assumed that reliance on the drug will continue. In essence, the way we use pharmaceuticals, behavioral therapy is intended to enhance the effectiveness of the drugs by gauging the effectiveness, tweaking the dosage and identifying and managing the side effects. In other words the two disciplines typically feed off one another.

Because of the constant dependence the body develops when taking pharmaceuticals for long periods of time, it should be approached like surgery... only used when there is imminent danger or conventional means have proven ineffective. To truly overcome issues, behavioral therapy needs to be done without the reliance on drugs. That doesn't mean drugs should never be used, but they should only be used when appropriate, and for short periods of time in most cases.

General studies on the effectiveness of behavioral therapy are garbage as there are so many dramatically different methods of therapy that measuring them in an aggregate is meaningless. Specific therapies need to be measured individually to glean any insight from such studies.

Traditional psychology has almost always been focused on discovering, defining and diagnosing "mental illnesses". Although such categorization is necessary, too narrow a focus on it neglects the uniqueness of every individual’s genetic make-up and conditioning (with the exception of the techniques based on Jung’s work). Although the identification of disorders is important, exploring, nurturing and mastering good habits, healthy perspectives and emotional intelligence is more critical. Behavioral therapy should have a major focus on developing the most advanced part of the brain, the middle prefrontal cortex.

The middle prefrontal cortex is the part of the brain that links all the other parts together. It is typically the last portion of the brain to develop, and in many people develops very little. Universally, people with a highly developed prefrontal cortex are exceptionally well adjusted, tolerant, understanding, empathetic, open-minded, emotionally balanced, present, good-natured and have a high self-esteem. There are a handful of very effective therapies that focus on this development, but unfortunately they aren’t widely accepted by the mainstream. From the perspective of greed, actually curing illness (mental or otherwise) is bad business compared to treating it for a lifetime.


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