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More Kraft stupidity - there "should be" a team in London

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Agreed, the west coast trip will result in an 8-hour time zone difference. Still, the 4 pm EST time slot would be a 9 pm game in London and 1 pm game for the west coast teams, so I'd imagine the majority of London "home" games would be at night in prime time in the UK. That would create a "normal" time for the body for players traveling there.

Playing their road games at the 1 o'clock time slot in the US would be comfortable for the UK team coming back, unless they're playing west coast teams, then the 4 pm works for both. But it would basically eliminate the UK team from any prime time US time slots without some major problems, and the Thursday night game would be atrocious unless after a bye week. Well, I mean, if the league actually gave a **** about the players, which they don't.

I don't see it as probable, but I don't think it's a deal breaker either. They could be smart about it, booking 2-3 game road trips and 2-3 week home trips to minimize travel. And it would suck for some players, especially with families, but London is an incredible city to experience as well. I'd rather live and play there than say Cleveland or Detroit.

Want me to negotiate anything to do with Article 46? Then you'll play SNF in London at 1:30am before your Thursday night game and like it!
- Roger Goodell
 
I think it actually gives a competitive advantage to teams on the East Coast. Flights between London and the West Coast will be brutal. The London team would be disadvantaged by always having long flights to away games.
I think, for sure, they'd stay here on extended road trips. Just makes sense, less jet lag. They could stay and practice in some proximity to their upcoming game.

But, you know, the NFL is not about common sense...
 
This isn't so bad, in comparison to...

"Since 1994, the Patriots are blah blah blah blah"

"Drew Bledsoe is the G.O.A.T."

"The Giants would have beaten us in the Super Bowl"

"The Patriots organization is saddened to hear the latest passing of an alumnus from before I bought the team that was so nice but I'll never properly respect or acknowledge because I hate Billy Sullivan"
 
Then call out the poster who brought up Russian hackers. Geez.


Timely one line joke, which doesn't actually target anyone or anything, versus political rant.

You don't see the difference?
 
Not even the Brits want their own team in London.
 
Not even the Brits want their own team in London.


I have ever seen such an outpouring of venom from multiple posters. Kraft has been a magnificent owner and fan of the team he bought and saved from moving to St Louis or elsewhere.

He built his own stadium without ripping off the taxpayers, has an unparalled winning record and never hired anybody other then Superbowl winning coaches.

He never fell into the easy money trap of PSLs while screwing the fans.

Yet you all vomit these outrageous criticisms. Please cease rooting for the Pats and go root for a team more deserving of you... like the JEST !
 
With regard to the recent franchise shifts the League is now rationalized. The two biggest cities now have multiple teams, one in each Conference, The 11th largest city is not over represented with 2 teams. The only large market unserved are San Antonio and the two closest countries and large cities, Toronto Canada and Mexico City, Mexico.

Logically the Buffalo and Toronto area can be served by one regional team like the Packers were. They used to be play split schedule home games in Green Bay and Milwaukee. The Pats are a regional franchise serving all of New England and the cities of Boston, Providence, Manchester, Augusta, and to a lesser extent Burlington and Hartford without changing venue. Or the regional teams might share the Mexico City market with games as they already now vie for fans. Can you imagine the rivalries of Tehas, Mehico division?

I suggest Europe can set up a four team NFL Division, the winner getting a Playoff berth just like the NHL did in its large expansion. The NHL newly created division entries were competitive with each other; and so what if its Playoff entry got quickly eliminated as the teams slowly grew and matured.
 
I have ever seen such an outpouring of venom from multiple posters. Kraft has been a magnificent owner and fan of the team he bought and saved from moving to St Louis or elsewhere.

He built his own stadium without ripping off the taxpayers, has an unparalled winning record and never hired anybody other then Superbowl winning coaches.

He never fell into the easy money trap of PSLs while screwing the fans.

Yet you all vomit these outrageous criticisms. Please cease rooting for the Pats and go root for a team more deserving of you... like the JEST !
What the hell does this rant have to do with MY post?
 
Because if you read the whole sentence you would have realized that my statement was factually accurate and I was not saying Boston is only 500 miles from London.

That way you wouldn't look so foolish by "LOL!"ing a correct statement.
 
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Timely one line joke, which doesn't actually target anyone or anything, versus political rant.

You don't see the difference?

Apparently you are the one having trouble making the up the difference between the two.

Since when is a political rant quoting a news article that directly contradicts, by providing evidence, what was by nature was a political post that i was responding to in the first place..
 
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I think, for sure, they'd stay here on extended road trips. Just makes sense, less jet lag. They could stay and practice in some proximity to their upcoming game.

But, you know, the NFL is not about common sense...
I was thinking this through and I think the thing that makes the most sense is to make London the "extended road trip." While I think no matter what they do, it will be a disaster... but IMHO the best way to do it is to have the players and their families live somewhere in the Boston area. That way they don't have to relocate entire families overseas.

So have camp and practice facilities somewhere near Boston (or maybe NY). Then fly to London for 3-4 weeks worth of games, then come back to Boston/NY for 3-4 weeks of "road" games. So you take 3 trips to London per year, with each trip being 2, 3, 4 games.

I think no matter what you do, it will be grueling to the players. But at least this way, they don't have to completely relocate to a foreign country, which I can't imagine a lot of players with families would like to do.
 
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Apparently you are the one having trouble making the up the difference between the two.

Since when is a political rant quoting a news article that directly contradicts, by providing evidence, what was by nature was a political post that i was responding to in the first place..

Note this:

Why not Russia? The Russian Hackers has a nice ring to it.

That was the extent of the "Russian Hackers post". A non-partisan joke about something topical.

So, not the same. I'm not sure why people have decided to ignore the rules of politics here lately, but they aren't my rules. They are Ian's rules.

Take it up with him.
 
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That was the extent of the "Russian Hackers post". A non-partisan joke about something topical.

So, not the same. I'm not sure why people have decided to ignore the rules of politics here lately, but they aren't my rules. They are Ian's rules.

Take it up with him.

It was a partisan post. You are wrong, and or you suck at, trying to decide about what is and what isn't political.

I'm taking it up with you, because you brought it up with me.
 
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I was thinking this through and I think the thing that makes the most sense is to make London the "extended road trip." While I think no matter what they do, it will be a disaster... but IMHO the best way to do it is to have the players and their families live somewhere in the Boston area. That way they don't have to relocate entire families overseas.

So have camp and practice facilities somewhere near Boston (or maybe NY). Then fly to London for 3-4 weeks worth of games, then come back to Boston/NY for 3-4 weeks of "road" games. So you take 3 trips to London per year, with each trip being 2, 3, 4 games.

I think no matter what you do, it will be grueling to the players. But at least this way, they don't have to completely relocate to a foreign country, which I can't imagine a lot of players with families would like to do.
And, here we are back at square one. A professional football team in metro Boston without a home, nomads practicing wherever they can, living out of suitcases.

But I'll totally go for it if Kraft gives them the flying elvis and we go back to looking like ourselves.

...you don't think the Russian hackers are going after the Pats, are they?
 
And, here we are back at square one. A professional football team in metro Boston without a home, nomads practicing wherever they can, living out of suitcases.
Well it wouldn't exactly have to be so low rent. First of all, it certainly wouldn't have to be in metro Boston. Any surrounding suburb would do. And, theoretically, their practice facilities would be permanent structures, not a generic "practicing wherever they can" situation.

Like I said, I just don't see any way whatsoever it could possibly work. I just think my idea would appeal to the players a helluva lot more than relocating their families to London.
 
Well it wouldn't exactly have to be so low rent. First of all, it certainly wouldn't have to be in metro Boston. Any surrounding suburb would do. And, theoretically, their practice facilities would be permanent structures, not a generic "practicing wherever they can" situation.

Like I said, I just don't see any way whatsoever it could possibly work. I just think my idea would appeal to the players a helluva lot more than relocating their families to London.

I'd rather live in London than Cleveland. Or Detroit. Or Buffalo. Or Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, hell half the NFL cities.

Cost of living would suck, you'd have to learn to drive on the wrong side of the road, figure out roundabouts, and learn to drink warm beer.

But the culture, history, and educational opportunities more than make up for it. It's a world class city, and you can't say the same thing about Minnesota (sorry Minnesotans).
 
Not even enough good teams out of the 32 almost the same teams in the hunt for a Lombardi every year not a good idea to add more teams not even enough talent going around to make half of the 32 respectable teams unless the London/Europe players are drafted out of their own country
 
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