Pats considering Butler trade to Saints for Brandin Cooks

[FrodoBagginz]

So, basically, Payton wants to find someone to swindle. Not going to be Belichick.

 

[IllegalContact]

Seems like a weird deal. I would think that we should be satisfied for now with Edelman, Hogan and Mitchell, Gronk and Allen at tight ends and two of the better receiving backs in the league in White and Lewis. Not everyone is going to get the ball, especially someone who thinks they are a No. 1 in Cooks.

I think the front office must believe that Edelman and Amendola are in the process of wearing down and there is importance in the abilities of E and A on ST returns....part of this is to prolong those 2

 

[PatsFan2]

I think BB and Payton need to have a gentlemans drink

I think somebody need to give S Payton some of Jim Jones K00l-aid enough is enough.

 

[farn]

What happened to the old New england Patriots. The ones who paid their own players when they did everything right and improve each season.

They are CHAMPS.

 

[festy1986]

Sorry, but your eyes/brain don't know what they are talking about.

Butler - 50 receptions allowed on 90 targets. 12 Passes Deflected. 4 interceptions. 4 TDs allowed.

That's amongst the tops in the league..

I didn't say he wasn't good.

My eyes work fine. Too many times was he chasing down a receiver.

 

[luuked]

What happened to the old New england Patriots. The ones who paid their own players when they did everything right and improve each season.

Can't remember that team.. must be talking about the 90s..

 

[Fixit]

Who says Cooks isn't needed? Julian isn't getting younger, Amendola's future is murky. Cooks can be our future standout in the receiving core. He'd be damn good here.

I don't think WR is an actual area of need right now. Getting better is always nice, but do you really see BB trading Butler, a first, and another pick for a WR who's not Julio?

 

[AtomicDawg]

Mort "11 of 12" can go **** himself.

 

[IllegalContact]

What happened to the old New england Patriots. The ones who paid their own players when they did everything right and improve each season.

pats have done an 'all of the above' approach for a very long time

plenty of players have walked over the years

don't argue with the result

 

[DaBruinz]

Who says Cooks isn't needed? Julian isn't getting younger, Amendola's future is murky. Cooks can be our future standout in the receiving core. He'd be damn good here.

So you hurt Mitchell's development by taking him off the field in favor of Cooks? Mitchell is the best rookie WR the Pats have had during the Brady era. Considering the confidence that Brady has in him, it would be folly to take him off the field. You're not taking Edelman off the field because Edelman is your #1 receiver. And you're not switching to a 3WR base because you just got Allen to pair with Gronk.

So, the only logical thing that happens is that Mitchell gets his playing time cut.. Which makes no sense at all.

 

[IllegalContact]

I don't think WR is an actual area of need right now. Getting better is always nice, but do you really see BB trading Butler, a first, and another pick for a WR who's not Julio?

I do.......Edelman is beat up.......he will diminish the same way welker did

not sure where you are getting your parameters for the trade

latest I hear was cooks + 2nd for butler + 1st

 

[IllegalContact]

So you hurt Mitchell's development by taking him off the field in favor of Cooks? Mitchell is the best rookie WR the Pats have had during the Brady era. Considering the confidence that Brady has in him, it would be folly to take him off the field. You're not taking Edelman off the field because Edelman is your #1 receiver. And you're not switching to a 3WR base because you just got Allen to pair with Gronk.

So, the only logical thing that happens is that Mitchell gets his playing time cut.. Which makes no sense at all.

I actually think it will be edelman's snap count that will go down

 

[DaBruinz]

I didn't say he wasn't good.

My eyes work fine. Too many times was he chasing down a receiver.

No. Your eyes don't work fine.. Either that or your expectations are whack because there weren't that many times he was "chasing down a receiver"..

 

[The Gr8est]

Funny, I would say Butler is worth more than Cooks. But Peyton may not be thinking Butler level quality.

Have you seen the Saints' defense?

Nothing about it suggests they know what a top CB looks like.

 

[Tuck]

I think he's confusing Cooks with Jimmy G.

 

[The Gr8est]

Who says Cooks isn't needed? Julian isn't getting younger, Amendola's future is murky. Cooks can be our future standout in the receiving core. He'd be damn good here.

For two years.......

 

[shmessy]

Who says Cooks isn't needed? Julian isn't getting younger, Amendola's future is murky. Cooks can be our future standout in the receiving core. He'd be damn good here.

You write as if Cooks is signed for more than 2 years. He isn't.

So the "future" you are worried about is this season and next.

Not so worried about those re: Edelman and Dola.

2019+? Yes.

 

[festy1986]

No. Your eyes don't work fine.. Either that or your expectations are whack because there weren't that many times he was "chasing down a receiver"..

Wrong.

Butler is good. Not 14 mil plus a year good.

And I don't know if Gilmore is either. Can't pretend I know anything about him

 

[Fixit]

I do.......Edelman is beat up.......he will diminish the same way welker did

not sure where you are getting your parameters for the trade

latest I hear was cooks + 2nd for butler + 1st

From the tweet saying that Payton would want a good defender and multiple picks for Cooks.

 

[The Brandon Five]

I am not a fan of this idea...I am totally confused by the combination of paying huge money to Gilmore and then trading away Butler.