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Pats reportedly have received a preliminary offer for JG...

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Still eyeing Cleveland's 12th pick... Would be best for both teams.

Reuben Foster may be available at this spot? Or take a Taco...


Yup. If the Browns get Garrett and JG out of this draft then it doesn't matter what they do with the other picks, that's already a major win considering two or three starters is an average/above average for most drafts. And yet they'd be getting a premium pass rusher and a franchise QB. Question is, would JG want to sign a long-term deal with Cleveland. If I'm a QB agent right now, I'd be tempted to encourage my client to go the Cousins route.
 
Although not the ideal scenario for any team that values harmony between player and player, any team that trades for Garoppola is guaranteed 3 years of cost control at a very reasonable average cost of $18 mill / year
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3 year total........$54 mill.............$18 mill /year average

The beauty of this strategy from the new team's perspective:

1) No signing bonus required in any year
2) Team can cut losses with no forward cap damage...

While I agree with you numbers, if a team is willing to pull the trigger and gamble fully (but not rashly) on JG, they could probably get it done for 15M AAV over 3 years, or 45M.

If I'm JG, I'm willing to take a sure 45M now, rather than 800K and the risk of injury, or hellaciously poor play, that would scrap a 43m potential offer OFF the table in 2/3 years. Especially knowing I'll be playing behind what is sure to be a porous and young O-Line.
 
In all fairness Ken that 450 post thread was only 20 words shorter than one of your random thoughts posts.
Polo is not a diminishing assett. No matter where he goes he wont be playing for his present contract, except on the Pats for one more year. Anybody else getting him now, would lock him up with a new contract. So his value will be as great post 2017, as it is post 2016. The Pats could and would find a tag for him in 2018. Post 2018 Bradys remaining good years dwindle even if not hurt.
 
Although not the ideal scenario for any team that values harmony between player and player, any team that trades for Garoppola is guaranteed 3 years of cost control at a very reasonable average cost of $18 mill / year
year 1 (2017).......$800k
year 2 (2018)......$23 mill (franchised)
year 3 (2019)......$30 mill (franchised)
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3 year total........$54 mill.............$18 mill /year average

The beauty of this strategy from the new team's perspective:

1) No signing bonus required in any year
2) Team can cut losses with no forward cap damage

No doubt, the year 3 ...$30 mill salary is excessive....but a team could use cap savings from prior years to help fund year 3. Set aside a sizable chunk of $$$ in 2017 when JG only costs $800k

On another note, Felger and Maz are pounding the table saying Jimmy G should not play ball with NE and allow himself to be traded to a crap team this year. They insist he should wait until next offseason and get to free agency when the team choice will be his alone.
F & M...confirming their idiots status
More important than the reality that NE can tag JG next year thereby controlling his destiny for an extra year, think about the damage JG will do to his bank account while getting a year older and not starting.
The choice...make a lot of money now and be a starter...or....sit and make $800k and maybe sit again the following year. How old will he be then?
How many agents are going to recommend sitting and making peanuts vs starting and getting rich.
Who knows what the Pats are planning....but the notion that JG would postpone a major opportunity potentially available to him this year ....no way.
this assumes they are willing to trade for him and not lock him up.
But also after year 1 you can't include the cost of year 1 any longer. Do you pay a QB 2 years 55 mill knowing he will walk in the 3rd year?
 
Most Patriot rumors are made up. Probably just going to tune them all out til something happens.
 
Most Patriot rumors are made up. Probably just going to tune them all out til something happens.

That would be the sane thing to do.
Which I guess is a sad commentary on the rest of us.
 
Most Patriot rumors are made up. Probably just going to tune them all out til something happens.
Historically, Belichick's Patriots have been so forthcoming with the media...
 
Heard it on the Sports Hub, you arrogant Pats fan homers think you'll get all the picks in the draft for Jimmy! We'll see how good he is without getting all the plays beamed into his helmet from space.

I can confirm this.
 
Heard it on the Sports Hub, you arrogant Pats fan homers think you'll get all the picks in the draft for Jimmy! We'll see how good he is without getting all the plays beamed into his helmet from space.

Crap!

They're on to us!

 


If true, there's a simple choice.

1. Pick Trubisky at 1. Can't have Garrett too unless they make a big trade up.
2. Trade a first (12) and second for JG (if BB is willing) and get both Garrett and JG. And still have the most available cap space and a bunch of draft picks left.
 
We will see. I think he can be very good. He learned under the best. I don't think he's matt cassel. The Pats need to get a good package in case he turns out to be a solid QB. I think he can be like a Tony Romo. It's a question of staying healthy and finding a good fit where he will be surrounded by talent.
Your opinion of him is that low?
 


If true, there's a simple choice.

1. Pick Trubisky at 1. Can't have Garrett too unless they make a big trade up.
2. Trade a first (12) and second for JG (if BB is willing) and get both Garrett and JG. And still have the most available cap space and a bunch of draft picks left.

I don't like Hue Jackson

 


If true, there's a simple choice.

1. Pick Trubisky at 1. Can't have Garrett too unless they make a big trade up.
2. Trade a first (12) and second for JG (if BB is willing) and get both Garrett and JG. And still have the most available cap space and a bunch of draft picks left.


Go ahead and pick trubisky. It would be typical of the browns.
 
 
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