Would Bill hire Chip???

[Love The Drake]

Bill Belichick reportedly offered Chip Kelly role with Patriots before 49ers job

Daboll might be seething or could go with Josh if Bill hires Chip as OC.

 

[mosi]

God no. When he was in Philly he was toxic and the players hated him. He was also very predictable and the entire NFC caught up with him.

 

[Bonzo]

I seriously doubt BB would pass over Daboll, who's clearly been groomed for this occasion, to hire Chip as OC. Especially as one of McD/Patricia/Caserio would no doubt pluck him away to run their offense, and meanwhile it would be a layover for Chip en route to his next HC gig.

But I could absolutely envision BB giving him a spot similar to when Parcells hired him to coach the DBs that one season in New England. And not just because of their past relationship, but also because Chip's Eagles beat us last year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Daboll might be seething or could go with Josh if Bill hires Chip as OC.

It's possible that Daboll is vastly improved from the old days, but I'm not happy with the idea of having him as the O.C..

 

[Ring 6]

Daboll might be seething or could go with Josh if Bill hires Chip as OC.

That would be the only reason to consider the move.

 

[lurker1965]

No. hiring from outside only pisses off people who have been here and paid their dues. Promote from within. No title as some sort of consultant, maybe, but not the boss of, say a TE coach that has been working hard for years and will have to train him.

 

[PatsFan2]

Patriots have pattern of hiring from within so regarding Chip Kelly that should be a none story. Also Brian Daboll gained a lot of valuable experience over the years now should be his time.

 

[Froob]

Doubtful it'd be OC but if he wanted some sort of assistant job I could see it. I don't think Chip would take that though.

 

[IllegalContact]

maybe the pats need an equipment guy

 

[Snake Eyes]

No. hiring from outside only pisses off people who have been here and paid their dues. Promote from within. No title as some sort of consultant, maybe, but not the boss of, say a TE coach that has been working hard for years and will have to train him.

Hire the best people, whether they're from inside the org or outside.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

No. hiring from outside only pisses off people who have been here and paid their dues. Promote from within. No title as some sort of consultant, maybe, but not the boss of, say a TE coach that has been working hard for years and will have to train him.

I'm not sure Belichick has been as successful as he has been with the Patriots by rewarding those who have simply "paid their dues". In fact, sounds completely anti-Belichick. He rewards those who have earned it, not those who have seniority.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm not sure Belichick has been as successful as he has been with the Patriots by rewarding those who have simply "paid their dues". In fact, sounds completely anti-Belichick. He rewards those who have earned it, not those who have seniority.

It would have been interesting to see what BB would have done in 2012 if JMD had not been available after BOB left for PSU. O'Shea was the most senior guy on the staff, Godsey wasn't even a position coach and Daboll wasn't here yet. If you stack-rank them, clearly Daboll is above O'Shea now so that tells you what BB thinks of O'Shea as an OC candidate

 

[1960Pats]

It would be a mistake to view Kelly as a guy with AN offensive system and that's that. Kelly and BB have talked offensive football since he was coaching at UNH. I would assume they've gone over a lot broader ground than one simple idea.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Bill hire Chip as an consultant during the playoff run, and if it works out, bring him back as a coach/consultant, etc. Espeically if Josh moves on. Whatever he does here, he'd do it within the sructure of language and fundamentals that have been long established. As to the next OC, I think Brian Daboll has the first leg up.

BTW- Pepper Johnson just got fired. Any chance for him to come home?

I think that Kelly would benefit greatly from some time with the Pats. The only NFL teams he's ever been a part of were run by a HC with no NFL experience.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

It would have been interesting to see what BB would have done in 2012 if JMD had not been available after BOB left for PSU. O'Shea was the most senior guy on the staff, Godsey wasn't even a position coach and Daboll wasn't here yet. If you stack-rank them, clearly Daboll is above O'Shea now so that tells you what BB thinks of O'Shea as an OC candidate

Ultimately I think this is what wound up happening to Pepper Johnson. I think BB loves Johnson, and thought he was a really bright, effective technical position coach or he wouldn't have kept him on the staff for so long. But being a coordinator requires a different skill set - big picture strategy, and for whatever reason Belichick didn't think he showed that ability as much as Mangini, then Pees, and then Patricia. And it eventually annoyed Johnson because he does want that opportunity (as opposed to Scar who clearly only wants to be a position coach), so they decided to part ways so he could get the chance. So far it hasn't worked out for him unfortunately.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Hire the best people, whether they're from inside the org or outside.

Only if it can be done without changing the system Brady has been playing for his entire career.

 

[BTTA]

He could take Lombardi's old role, where is input and knowledge about the League can be harvested but he has no day to day responsibility and can't do any harm. I kind of like having that role around, where people can come in for a year and have an exchange of knowledge.

 

[Danger Zone]

Bill Belichick reportedly offered Chip Kelly role with Patriots before 49ers job

Kind of cuts through the "Would Belichick Hire Kelly a Job" question doesn't it?

 

[Danger Zone]

I'm not sure Belichick has been as successful as he has been with the Patriots by rewarding those who have simply "paid their dues". In fact, sounds completely anti-Belichick. He rewards those who have earned it, not those who have seniority.

That sounds like the Belichick I pretend to know

 

[RobertWeathers]

Ultimately I think this is what wound up happening to Pepper Johnson. I think BB loves Johnson, and thought he was a really bright, effective technical position coach or he wouldn't have kept him on the staff for so long. But being a coordinator requires a different skill set - big picture strategy, and for whatever reason Belichick didn't think he showed that ability as much as Mangini, then Pees, and then Patricia. And it eventually annoyed Johnson because he does want that opportunity (as opposed to Scar who clearly only wants to be a position coach), so they decided to part ways so he could get the chance. So far it hasn't worked out for him unfortunately.

Yep Thats the way I see how it went down as well.

 

[lurker1965]

I'm not sure Belichick has been as successful as he has been with the Patriots by rewarding those who have simply "paid their dues". In fact, sounds completely anti-Belichick. He rewards those who have earned it, not those who have seniority.

He has promoted from within without giving the title before.

Other than McDaniels - who was coming back- name another hire from outside.