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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Why is this troll allowed here? All he does is come in here and say stupid things to get people riled up...Hey, maybe it's a regional thing. But there's no debate here at all in my mind.
Speeding is just that. Dumb and there are punishments for it.
Speeding at 80mph, 120, 180... all bad.
Doesn't come close to dui though. Like trying to compare Brady to Fitz.
What about your boy Richardson? You feel this way about him?
What will be enough.
No I'm sure that getting a DUI should be punishable by losing your job and a long jail sentence for attempted manslaughter. I have no problem with that as long as it's the consequence for EVERYONE who is found guilty of the crime. And of course I assume you yourself have NEVER driven under the influence of alcohol or drugs, since you are clearly such a paragon of virtue. It's a pleasure to share a message board with someone of you moral rectitude.The same punishment as anyone else. If it costs him more because he had more to lose, so be it.
It almost sounds like your suggesting that the rich or popular should get to pay for their crimes with money or public humiliation instead of facing legal consequences.
Which crimes/violations should get what punishment? Society/elections/legislators handle those decisions.
Just want to point out, we still do not know just how drunk he was. That will be shown by BAC which is still not reported afaik. He appears to be very drunk, but he might just have been very very tired and perhaps slightly drunk, or not drunk at all. We really don't know.I don't feel bad for him at all, to be behind the wheel that drunk makes him super lucky he didn't kill anyone.
If you look at all the outcomes that could reasonably have happened and were pretty much outside of his capacity to control once he decided to hop in his car, 'just' getting a DUI is right up there among the best of them.
Donte Stallworth wasn't anywhere near that drunk, and look what happened to him. Floyd's lucky.
OK, you're a Jet fan, but you cannot believe this. There is no way to know, before the fact, that a highway is empty at anytime. An ambulance or firetruck could be responding to an emergency at that time. I have returned home from a business trip at that time. I've driven my family to a hospital for a scheduled surgery at that time. 143 is not simply 'worse' than 80. At 143 mph, a driver will likely travel 210 feet before REACTING to a stimulus.Sorry man. I know you're a pretty reasonable guy and I usually agree with your opinion, but there is no comparison here imo.
Yes 143 is worse than 80. Just as 180 is worse than 143. But speeding on an empty highway at like 3am in Missouri doesn't come close to a DUI.
Any Jets who've had DUIs? Same goes for them. Especially if they were as incoherent as Floyd was here. That is easily a criminal offense.
To be at least a little bit fair, his trouble before was back in college, 6 years ago. He's not necessarily Johnny Manziel.
Not a good look. Since he's been in trouble for this sort of thing before, it seems like he has a problem. Maybe he can get it together, but it's hard to be optimistic.
He drove 143 MPH WITH A CHILD IN THE CAR AND TRIED TO EVADE THE POLICE!Sheldon wasn't under the influence at all. Heck he was coherent enough to try to avoid the cops by pulling in a driveway or something like that. Dumb? Sure.
But Floyd here... he literally has no idea what is happening, while operating what is at that point, like a 6,000lb weapon.
No no, the problem here is that the Patriots picked him up. There wouldn't have been nearly as much noise if, say Buffalo picked him up. And Dallas, Jerry probably would throw a parade.While I don't want to minimize DUI's There are a couple of questions that I'd like the conservators of moral rectitude to answer for me.
I consider myself a quasi-existentialist in the philisophical sense. I believe in cause and effect. There are consequences for one's actions, or at least there should be. And so there should be for Floyd, IF he is found guilty of driving under the influence. Even before the finding, there already has been. He was fired from his job in part because of this arrest. He has been publicly shamed on multimedia platforms, all accross the country. It will cost him millions in lost promotional earnings. And if he is found guilty, he will face either a short jail sentence or probation. Plus he will face a 2-4 game suspension that will cost him hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. And this doesn't even count the money he will lose in FA. Those are not inconsequental consequences for what was a bad error in judgement. One, I might add that most of us have made in sometime in our lifetimes, even if we were never caught.
So what I'm asking here is what exactly do people want to happen here? Should losing your job be the result of this. Should EVERYONE who is ever arrested for a DUI automatically lose their jobs. I mean it is a serious crime, and shouldn't we be consistent? It could result in death and injury because it impares one's concentration when driving a car. But then again, so does texting while driving. If we are being consistent. Shouldn't anyone caught texting while driving should lose their jobs as well, right? How about driving with bad tires? Couldn't a blowout lead to an injury causing accident? Shouldn't everyone found to be knowingly driving with bad tires lose their jobs? I wonder, would those conservators of moral rectitude be similarly outraged by someone cause texting while driving?
Again, I'm not defending Floyd's actions here. There SHOULD be consequences. I'm just wondering what the appropriate response should be. Personally I think Floyd has already paid a VERY high price for his error in judgement already, and that price will only go up in a couple of months after his trial (if found guilty) and when the NFL takes its pound of flesh. How much is exactly enough???? At what point will the conservators of moral rectitude say enough....if at all.
There were actions and there were consequences. When do the tolerance, compassion, and redemption come into play. For if we can't get there, why not just take him out back and put a bullet in his head because there is still a chance he might drive drunk again. What will be enough.
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