Do you buy into the narrative of Joe Montana's "unblemished Super Bowl record" vs. Brady?

[shmessy]

its a stupid argument. People fail to realize Montana could not make it to the super bowl 6 times. Case closed

Exactly.

Montana is the Greatest Super Bowl QB of all-time.

Brady is the Overall Greatest QB of all time.

Inside the 240 minutes Montana played in SBs, he was the best.

Tom Brady won 6 Conference Championships to Montana's 4 and is the greatest QB of all-time.

The people using the 4-0 argument are merely parsing.

 

[fightingirish595]

Exactly.

Montana is the Greatest Super Bowl QB of all-time.

Brady is the overall greatest QB of all time.

Inside the 240 minutes Montana played in SBs, he was the best.

Tom Brady won 6 Conference Championships to Montana's 4 and is the greatest QB of all-time.

The people using the 4-0 argument are merely parsing.

You know when Montana retired he was one of the best regular season QBs ever right

 

[RobertWeathers]

Exactly.

Montana is the Greatest Super Bowl QB of all-time.

Brady is the overall greatest QB of all time.

Inside the 240 minutes Montana played in SBs, he was the best.

Tom Brady won 6 Conference Championships to Montana's 4 and is the greatest QB of all-time.

The people using the 4-0 argument are merely parsing.

Both Qbs won 4 Super Bowls. Why is Brady penalized for losing two?

Montana had the opportunity to make it to the SB 6 times. He fell short twice in 1983 and 1990

Tom had the opportunity to make it to the SB 10 times and fell short 4 times.

In that example, is Brady a better or worse post-season QB?

 

[fightingirish595]

Both Qbs won 4 Super Bowls. Why is Brady penalized for losing two?

Montana had the opportunity to make it to the SB 6 times. He fell short twice in 1983 and 1990

Tom had the opportunity to make it to the SB 10 times and fell short 4 times.

In that example, is Brady a better or worse post-season QB?

I still cant understand why people are trying to quantify losing. To me the amount of superbowls or title games lost is completely irrelevant when discussing these two players

 

[aluminum seats]

I still cant understand why people are trying to quantify losing. To me the amount of superbowls or title games lost is completely irrelevant when discussing these two players

That's silly. By your logic, a QB who leads a team to the Super Bowl and loses is no better than the QB of an 0-16 team.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I still cant understand why people are trying to quantify losing. To me the amount of superbowls or title games lost is completely irrelevant when discussing these two players

The question on the table is if Montana has a better Super Bowl legacy than Brady's.

My response is no. They have both won 4 Super Bowls.

While winning titles is all that matters, It cannot be dismissed that Brady has been there 2 additional times and played admirably in two narrow defeats (especially when your defense allows the GW TDs in the closing seconds).

 

[fightingirish595]

That's silly. By your logic, a QB who leads a team to the Super Bowl and loses is no better than the QB of an 0-16 team.

Uh nice try but did you read the last sentence

 

[shmessy]

You know when Montana retired he was one of the best regular season QBs ever right

What does that even mean? It was 1994.

When Montana retired, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Tom Brady hadn't made it out of high school.

That's like saying "When he retired, Roger Connor was the major league career homerun king".

Roger Connor - Wikipedia

 

[fightingirish595]

The question on the table is if Montana has a better Super Bowl legacy than Brady's.

My response is no. They have both won 4 Super Bowls.

While winning titles is all that matters, It cannot be dismissed that Brady has been there 2 additional times and played admirably in two narrow defeats (especially when your defense allows the GW TDs in the closing seconds).

Certainly did play admirably. I think the losses neither put him below or above. They both have 4 wins. Tied

 

[shmessy]

Both Qbs won 4 Super Bowls. Why is Brady penalized for losing two?

Montana had the opportunity to make it to the SB 6 times. He fell short twice in 1983 and 1990

Tom had the opportunity to make it to the SB 10 times and fell short 4 times.

In that example, is Brady a better or worse post-season QB?

RW, my post AGREES with your post. I think you are arguing with the wrong post.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Certainly did play admirably. I think the losses neither put him below or above. They both have 4 wins. Tied

Then based on that criteria, Terry Bradshaw deserves to be in that company as well.

 

[RobertWeathers]

RW, my post AGREES with your post. I think you are arguing with the wrong post.

OK.

 

[shmessy]

The question on the table is if Montana has a better Super Bowl legacy than Brady's.

My response is no. They have both won 4 Super Bowls.

While winning titles is all that matters, It cannot be dismissed that Brady has been there 2 additional times and played admirably in two narrow defeats (especially when your defense allows the GW TDs in the closing seconds).

And once again - - Montana is the Greatest SB QB and Brady is the Greatest Career QB. INSIDE of those 240 minutes of SB by Montana and the 360 minutes of SB by Brady - - Montana's performance is better.


The totality of their entire careers? Brady is better and Montana is not even close.

.

 

[fightingirish595]

What does that even mean? It was 1994.

When Montana retired, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Tom Brady hadn't made it out of high school.

That's like saying "When he retired, Roger Connor was the major league career homerun king".

Roger Connor - Wikipedia

It's a different game now than it was then. And is that really your counter? Guy played during the dead ball era

 

[Ring 6]

.[/QUOTE]

Certainly did play admirably. I think the losses neither put him below or above. They both have 4 wins. Tied

What about the championship game wins? Is it not better to win a conference championship than to lose or never get there?

 

[RobertWeathers]

And once again - - Montana is the Greatest SB QB and Brady is the Greatest Career QB. INSIDE of those 240 minutes of SB by Montana and the 360 minutes of SB by Brady - - Montana's performance is better.


The totality of their entire careers? Brady is better and Montana is not even close.

.

Based on what? Why aren't they equal?

 

[fightingirish595]

Then based on that criteria, Terry Bradshaw deserves to be in that company as well.

Well that's not the only criteria

 

[aluminum seats]

Uh nice try but did you read the last sentence

Uh, you said only rings matter and you can't "quantify losing."

 

[Ring 6]

Well that's not the only criteria

You made it the only criteria when you deleted every other game they played in their careers beside the 4 trophies from the discussion.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Well that's not the only criteria

What is? Performance? He led his team to 4 Super Bowls