Kraft is becoming an embarassment every time he opens his mouth

[Ring 6]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/s...-had-brain-trauma-family-to-sue-nhl.html?_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/sports/hockey/derek-boogaard-a-brain-going-bad.html?pagewanted=all

more?

Then hockey needs to get in front of the problem as well and not release misleading statistics and claim there is no connection between blows to the head and CTE.
I'm not really surprised that the issue happens in mens pro hockey, but had never heard so.
Of course Kraft did compare the NFL to women's soccer and stand behind the NFLs BS about the studies, so hockey having the same problem doesn't exactly make his comments scholarly.

 

[borg]

If football players played every snap on offense, defense and special teams, then they'd see about 60% of the action that said ice hockey player sees. How many games in an ice hockey season?

Why do you ignore in 6-7 months of football practice each season but instead focus on 12 minutes once a week?

 

[XLIX]

so the laws of physics and biology change?

OMG, with all due respect, you cannot possibly be this clueless.

If you knew anything about the laws of physics and biology, you would know that the force of impact in an NFL game when a safety launches himself at the WR or a QB's head slams into the ground or whatever is going to be far, far greater when talking about NFLers than NCAA D-III. The kinetic energy of the collisions in NFL games is magnitudes of orders higher than the kinetic energy of collisions at lower levels and in other sports.

The higher the force of impact on the head, with all else being equal, the greater the chances of a concussion. So using a study which includes Framingham State College and thinking that it has any relevant application to the New England Patriots is beyond silly.

you're actually helping me make my point about concussions in general........that they happen in all contact sports...........somebody falling and hitting their head (with helmet) on the ice in hockey is simply a tougher impact on the head when it comes to concussions than anything in football

You're trying to change your point and hope no one notices.

No one is saying that concussions don't happen in all sports. But you are saying concussions happen at a higher rate in women's hockey than they do in the NFL.

 

[Galeb]

Why do you ignore in 6-7 months of football practice each season but instead focus on 12 minutes once a week?

There's few padded practices anymore, and the collisions experienced in practice are typically much less violent than game speed collisions. You'd think on an NFL team message board, such things wouldn't have to be explained. It may also be worth nothing that I didn't mention practice for the other sports either.

 

[IllegalContact]

Then hockey needs to get in front of the problem as well and not release misleading statistics and claim there is no connection between blows to the head and CTE.
I'm not really surprised that the issue happens in mens pro hockey, but had never heard so.
Of course Kraft did compare the NFL to women's soccer and stand behind the NFLs BS about the studies, so hockey having the same problem doesn't exactly make his comments scholarly.

Nice cooling breeze from your spin.....women's hockey, same thing....soccer, same thing....rugby, same.....wrestling, same.....field hockey, same ..... on and on.....

Face it you hate Bob Kraft....otherwise you would not be spinning the way you are

 

[Ring 6]

Nice cooling breeze from your spin.....women's hockey, same thing....soccer, same thing....rugby, same.....wrestling, same.....field hockey, same ..... on and on.....

Face it you hate Bob Kraft....otherwise you would not be spinning the way you are

My fault fur responding to you after an enjoyable week. Won't happen again. I suggest you put me in ignore as well.

 

[IllegalContact]

OMG, with all due respect, you cannot possibly be this clueless.

If you knew anything about the laws of physics and biology, you would know that the force of impact in an NFL game when a safety launches himself at the WR or a QB's head slams into the ground or whatever is going to be far, far greater when talking about NFLers than NCAA D-III. The kinetic energy of the collisions in NFL games is magnitudes of orders higher than the kinetic energy of collisions at lower levels and in other sports.

The higher the force of impact on the head, with all else being equal, the greater the chances of a concussion. So using a study which includes Framingham State College and thinking that it has any relevant application to the New England Patriots is beyond silly.
You're trying to change your point and hope no one notices.

No one is saying that concussions don't happen in all sports. But you are saying concussions happen at a higher rate in women's hockey than they do in the NFL.

It is obvious you know nothing about hockey ...... Several times the speed given the skates....a head getting slammed in ice is worse than any field.... Boards, goals, sticks....the puck

I'm not changing any point.....fact is, concussions happen in many different sports, I provided documentation that says it happens more in women's hockey and now you're sputtering with this ****

 

[IllegalContact]

My fault fur responding to you after an enjoyable week. Won't happen again. I suggest you put me in ignore as well.

What usually happens when your point vaporizes in front of you

 

[XLIX]

It is obvious you know nothing about hockey ...... Several times the speed given the skates....a head getting slammed in ice is worse than any field.... Boards, goals, sticks....the puck

And it's obvious you don't know anything about physics.

I'm not changing any point.....

Yes you are. You are subtly trying to change the point from your statement that women's hockey gets as many concussions as NFLers to "every sport gets concussions."

fact is, concussions happen in many different sports, I provided documentation that says it happens more in women's hockey and now you're sputtering with this ****

Your lame documentation is college only, including all divisions of college.

You're taking a study that includes the almighty Framingham State football and thinking it somehow applies to the NFL. That's your "documentation". Thank you for providing a few good laughs.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Just throwing my 2 cents in here ... women/girls tend to get more concussions and knee injuries than males .... it has to do with the size/strength of their necks/knees ... best to stay gender specific.

I would not compare other sports to football ... just as an example how many concussions we see from OL and DL ... no other sport has that? Rugby? Hard right now to see what they can do to make it safer ... how could they possibly alter line play to make it safer? So much better IMO for the NFL to say they see a great need to greatly increase funding for research specific to football.

 

[IllegalContact]

And it's obvious you don't know anything about physics.
Yes you are. You are subtly trying to change the point from your statement that women's hockey gets as many concussions as NFLers to "every sport gets concussions."
Your lame documentation is college only, including all divisions of college.

You're taking a study that includes the almighty Framingham State football and thinking it somehow applies to the NFL. That's your "documentation". Thank you for providing a few good laughs.

I provided data that says women's hockey has a higher concussion rate in the context of many sport having concussions

You provide baselessly lame opinions with no substantiation .... Just straw man garbage

youre just another one looking for justification for hating Kraft....and failing

And physics? Tell me another one

 

[Big Bucks]

UFC and Boxing will go long before the lobbyists get to The NFL imo

 

[XLIX]

I provided data that says women's hockey has a higher concussion rate in the context of many sport having concussions

You provided data from such mighty college programs as Framingham State and Amherst, and foolishly think those same rates apply to the NFL.

And physics? Tell me another one

Another one what? I explained to you things like Force of Impact and Kinetic Energy. If you don't understand it, do your own further research.

BTW, isolated gifs of hard hits in hockey do absolutely nothing to demonstrate a rate of concussions relative to football. However, I am not surprised you don't understand that.

 

[IllegalContact]

You provided data from such mighty college programs as Framingham State and Amherst, and foolishly think those same rates apply to the NFL.
Another one what? I explained to you things like Force of Impact and Kinetic Energy. If you don't understand it, do your own further research.

BTW, isolated gifs of hard hits in hockey do absolutely nothing to demonstrate a rate of concussions relative to football. However, I am not surprised you don't understand that.

I believe what you mean by force of impact is the energy absorbed as a result of momentum at the time of collision distributed over a surface area....kinetic energy is momentum, by the way....the energy absorbed by a helmet (and head) is much greater making contact with a board or the ice than a turf or grass field

throwing words around does not confirm an understanding

Leave to you to completely ignore the moments of impact in those gifs....they were meaningless to you because you didn't understand them. At least go learn some physics before you come around acting like you know something

We can discuss physics in more depth if you lime

 

[XLIX]

I believe what you mean by force of impact is the energy absorbed as a result of momentum at the time of collision distributed over a surface area....kinetic energy is momentum, by the way....the energy absorbed by a helmet (and head) is much greater making contact with a board or the ice than a turf or grass field

The fact that you believe that statement is always true shows you don't know what you are talking about. Given that everybody in each sport are wearing helmets, then then force of impact with the surface will depend a great deal on the velocity of impact.

Leave to you to completely ignore the moments of impact in those gifs....

And leave it to you to think that anecdotal evidence (look it up if you don't know what that means) proves some sort of statistical point.

The statement you conveniently - and constantly - ignore is that no one is claiming that there aren't concussions in other sports. All you have is anecdotal evidence and D-III College Football to support your claim.

We can discuss physics in more depth if you lime

I'd enjoy that were it not for the fact that I doubt you would understand most of what I said.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

All fans will find reasons to dislike their team's owner...and I hate to say it, but Kraft is giving us reasons to dislike him more and more. That certainly doesn't diminish his accomplishments, but frankly, I wouldn't mind having Jonathan take over. He might just make up for his father's shortcomings....

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Concussions in sport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Injury rate per exposure based on sport in collegiate athletes from 1998 to 2004[15]
Sport Injury rate per 1,000 athletic exposures
Women's ice hockey 0.91
Men's spring football (American) 0.54
Men's ice hockey 0.41
Women's soccer 0.41
Men's football (American) 0.37
Men's soccer 0.28
Men's wrestling 0.25
Men's lacrosse 0.25
Women's lacrosse 0.25
Women's basketball 0.22
Women's field hockey 0.18
Men's basketball 0.16
Women's gymnastics 0.16
Women's softball 0.14
Women's volleyball 0.09
Men's baseball 0.07
All sports 0.28

Don't you have to factor in sample size for the high rate of exposure to concussion? After all, the number of participants in Women's Hockey is much smaller than Men's football

 

[IcyPatriot]

Women have less support in their necks ... which is why their rate is higher.

 

[Joker]

that's comforting seeing as how I have a bout coming up with Rhonda Rousey..

 

[Clonamery]

Women have less support in their necks ... which is why their rate is higher.

Don't tell Trump...that's all the proof he needs to show...ah, whatever it is he's trying to show about women.