OT: Buried knife found on OJ Simpson's old property is being tested

[deters]

This is a GROSS misunderstanding of the law lol

Public schooling at its best

I learned that from the movie Double Jeopardy.

 

[Kontradiction]

This is a GROSS misunderstanding of the law lol

Public schooling at its finest

He's quoting the plot of a movie.

EDIT: Someone beat me to the punch.

 

[chasa]

at least a couple of people saw the movie.

On the reals though, he might not be able to be tried for murder, but this is a shoe in for a **** ton of perjury accusations right?

 

[Kontradiction]

at least a couple of people saw the movie.

On the reals though, he might not be able to be tried for murder, but this is a shoe in for a **** ton of perjury accusations right?

I don't know but your post made me Google Ashley Judd. Man, she used to be smoking hot.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

at least a couple of people saw the movie.

On the reals though, he might not be able to be tried for murder, but this is a shoe in for a **** ton of perjury accusations right?

It would if it weren't for the fact that the statute of limitations doesn't run very long on perjury.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I learned that from the movie Double Jeopardy.

Which gets things completely wrong, IIRC.

Most lawyers would argue (convincingly, I think) that double jeopardy does not apply in that scenario; being wrongly convincted of a crime you didn't commit doesn't allow you to go back and commit that crime scot-free.

 

[AzorianPats]

What good timing for FX!

Great show!

 

[fnordcircle]

Which gets things completely wrong, IIRC.

It's almost like the poster knew that and was making a joke.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

OJ will get convicted of these murders around the same time the Obama administration indicts Hillary.

Neither will ever happen. Let alone the double jeopardy, even if they charged him with perjury, the precarious chain of custody and I would argue that the L.A. jury pool that found him not guilty back in 1998, is probably even worse today.

I think the only one that is in real trouble in this case is the (retired) traffic cop. He obviously knew he had evidence, concealed it, and then tried (stupidly) to make money of it. All around a bunch of dumb moves on his part.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't know but your post made me Google Ashley Judd. Man, she used to be smoking hot.

Yeah, but she's also batshit crazy.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

i was under the impression that double jeopardy only came into play when you were convicted of a crime, that you didn't commit, and then later actually committed that crime anyways.

So if oj was convicted of killing Nicole brown, but then it turns out she faked her death, OJ could kill her and then not be punished because he had already been punished for killing her

No.

DJ says that you can't be prosecuted twice by the same sovereign for the same crime. And jeopardy "attaches" when the jury is impanelled, though that "attachment" is removed if the trial ends in certain kinds of mistrials (such as if the jury hangs). Aside from that, that's the prosecution's only chance at you, whether you're convicted or acquitted.

Heck, you could be acquitted and walk out of the courthouse, confess that you did it and give all the details, and be scot-free with respect to any criminal charges (assuming you didn't say anything under oath that was contradicted by your confession).

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Which gets things completely wrong, IIRC.

Most lawyers would argue (convincingly, I think) that double jeopardy does not apply in that scenario; being wrongly convincted of a crime you didn't commit doesn't allow you to go back and commit that crime scot-free.

Correct because they are different crimes. If I was falsely convicted for beating in Goodell's skull in 2015 and got out of jail in 2025 and really did go beat his skull in, I can be prosecuted for the new crime of beating his skull in in 2025. It is a distinct, separate, act.

 

[Deus Irae]

No.

DJ says that you can't be prosecuted twice by the same sovereign for the same crime. And jeopardy "attaches" when the jury is impanelled, though that "attachment" is removed if the trial ends in certain kinds of mistrials (such as if the jury hangs). Aside from that, that's the prosecution's only chance at you, whether you're convicted or acquitted.

Heck, you could be acquitted and walk out of the courthouse, confess that you did it and give all the details, and be scot-free with respect to any criminal charges (assuming you didn't say anything under oath that was contradicted by your confession).

Not necessarily. Just ask the LAPD cops from the Rodney King case. You've got to look out for government workarounds where double jeopardy is practiced without being practiced.

 

[tasmlab]

Trump/Sanders 2016!

 

[sb1]

LAPD says it is double jeopardy and there won't be a retrial no matter what is found on the knife.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The "knife story" that people are talking about today was allegedly discovered by a construction worker who was working on demo of the Brentwood house in 1998. He handed the knife over to a off-duty cop buddy who was in the traffic dept. This idiot keeps the knife for years and as he is getting around to displaying it in his home, he comes up with the idea to include the LAPD case file # with the knife on display. He calls down to LAPD homicide and gets the number. They start to ask questions and then tell this boob to deliver the knife to the lab ASAP.

There have been many rumors of a knife being found. One was a block away from Nicole Brown's house. There was also a belief that he used two knives.

I admit.....I have an unhealthy interest with the OJ Simpson murder trial and everything about it. I cannot wait until the lab tests are complete. Whatever the results it won't change my mind one way or the other. The bastard should in jail for life for this and not in jail for kidnapping and theft.

Ultimately Nicole Brown and Rob Goldman's families are the ones that deserve to know what comes of the DNA testing of this knife before any of us.

The current OJ show on FX is great. Whoever that actor who plays Johnnie Cochran is excellent.

Travolta as Robert Shapiro is brutal....but entertaining.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

LAPD says it is double jeopardy and there won't be a retrial no matter what is found on the knife.

Even if they could, why bother? He's already in jail on the robbery charges in NV.

 

[Kontradiction]

The "knife story" that people are talking about today was allegedly discovered by a construction worker who was working on demo of the Brentwood house in 1998. He handed the knife over to a off-duty cop buddy who was in the traffic dept. This idiot keeps the knife for years and as he is getting around to displaying it in his home, he comes up with the idea to include the LAPD case file # with the knife on display. He calls down to LAPD homicide and gets the number. They start to ask questions and then tell this boob to deliver the knife to the lab ASAP.

There have been many rumors of a knife being found. One was a block away from Nicole Brown's house. There was also a belief that he used two knives.

I admit.....I have an unhealthy interest with the OJ Simpson murder trial and everything about it. I cannot wait until the lab tests are complete. Whatever the results it won't change my mind one way or the other. The bastard should in jail for life and not in jail for kidnapping and theft.

Ultimately Nicole Brown and Rob Goldman and their families are the ones that deserve to know what comes of the DNA testing of this knife before any of us.

The current OJ show on FX is great. Whoever that actor who plays Johnnie Cochran is excellent.

Travolta as Robert Shapiro is brutal....but entertaining.

I've been trying to get around to watching that. Everything I've heard about it makes it sound incredible.

Yeah, but she's also batshit crazy.

Yep. You can see it in the eyes. A psycho girl will always give away the fact that she's a psycho in her eyes. That said, the fact that she's crazy just adds to the fact that it would be a very fun one and done.

 

[Gronk]

 

[RobertWeathers]

I've been trying to get around to watching that. Everything I've heard about it makes it sound incredible.
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They absolutely are taking some creative license so you can't watch it and think everything is 100% historically accurate but it's been pretty fun to watch.

Can believe that was almost 22 years ago. I was a new college grad, single and in debt up to my ass.