NFL Appeal oral arguments thread

[smurfalarm]

Max Stendahl ?@MaxLaw360 20s20 seconds ago


Clement gets one question on rebuttal, and the hearing is over.

So I take it we should assume this is going to go badly for us?

 

[Todd Bradley]

So they grilled both sides. Nothing too surprising.

Berman was equally as tough on Kessler in the first go-around.

Doesn't mean anything.

 

[Froob]

Crap...NFL just presented their rebuttal. We're screwed. Here's the live look in.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I don't like this one bit. What happens if he loses ? Can he re- appeal ? This whole issue is such a farce !!

They may send the case back to Berman. To appeal further he would have to go to the entire 2d circuit which likely won't take the case. Only other option is Scotus which has enough in its plate right now with scalia's death.

 

[sb1]

Max Stendahl ?@MaxLaw360 47s47 seconds ago


TAKEAWAY: Two of the three judges (Parker and Chin) appeared to favor NFL. That's all you need to win. BUT, it's always hard to predict.

 

[tatepatsfan]

So I take it we should assume this is going to go badly for us?

No, not necessarily.

 

[Jlaff]

An appellate court judge just called Brady a cheater. Good job Kraft.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Gee wiz just catching up on this and reading all the posts and it's clear that the Honorable Judge Chin has been watching too much ESPN and hanging out with Ted Wells.

 

[Froob]

Max Stendahl ?@MaxLaw360 47s47 seconds ago


TAKEAWAY: Two of the three judges (Parker and Chin) appeared to favor NFL. That's all you need to win. BUT, it's always hard to predict.

If they win what happens next?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

@maxlaw360 says Parker and chin seem in favor of NFL (but not certain)

 

[BradyFTW!]

Well that sucks.

 

[IllegalContact]

no need to get dander up...blah blah.......it goes back to a near original point in the proceeding .... Parker questioning whether ball inflation provides an advantage.

I think that based along those lines, the argument does not get past the fact that there is no evidence that ball inflation is an advantage.

Who were the idiots that said they would not be arguing this ****?

 

[Froob]

If the NFL wins CBAs are 100% useless. Unions should be furious if the NFL wins.

 

[sb1]

If they win what happens next?

Probably at the very least Brady looks for a stay of suspension.

I don't think they will win though.

 

[Froob]

Probably at the very least Brady looks for a stay of suspension.

I don't think they will win though.

It doesn't go back to Berman first?

 

[tatepatsfan]

They may send the case back to Berman. To appeal further he would have to go to the entire 2d circuit which likely won't take the case. Only other option is Scotus which has enough in its plate right now with scalia's death.

SCOTUS wouldn't take this case regardless. Whoever loses here, especially if it is a 2-1 decision, will likely seek a rehearing en banc before the full panel of Second Circuit judges.

 

[IllegalContact]

If they win what happens next?

It goes back to Berman in some form

 

[juny]

Max Stendahl ?@MaxLaw360 47s47 seconds ago


TAKEAWAY: Two of the three judges (Parker and Chin) appeared to favor NFL. That's all you need to win. BUT, it's always hard to predict.

why were berman's arguments not brought up today? does his arguments have any weight on the appeals court?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

@maxlaw360 says Parker and chin in favor of NFL

No, he says they appeared to be in favor.

 

[Fixit]

If the NFL wins CBAs are 100% useless. Unions should be furious if the NFL wins.

Just had the same thought myself.