Sign the Beast LXIX: La'el Collins - do the Pats have a shot if he is cleared?

[SlowGettingUp]

Mike Loyko ?@NEPD_Loyko 3m3 minutes ago
#Patriots are interested in La'El Collins an have reached out per @nick_underhill and @DellengerAdv

 

[Haley]

Apparently he can play at CB after all.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Apparently he can play at CB after all.

Nope - Belichick heard back from the Navy and then figured out La'el can also play long snapper...

 

[Deus Irae]

Mike Loyko ?@NEPD_Loyko 3m3 minutes ago
#Patriots are interested in La'El Collins an have reached out per @nick_underhill and @DellengerAdv

 

[The Gr8est]

Mike Loyko ?@NEPD_Loyko 3m3 minutes ago
#Patriots are interested in La'El Collins an have reached out per @nick_underhill and @DellengerAdv

With the Omissioner's blessing I have no doubt.

 

[Ross12]

Very interesting that the Pats have expressed interest. It would be a steal, talent-wise, to get him. Looks like the AFCE is all in on La'el Collins.

 

[Rob0729]

I would love them to get him, but I still think he will end up going to a team with a clear and immediate tackle need.

 

[mgteich]

1) I see no reason for Collins not to make LOTS of money if he is cleared. This is a matter of structuring a contract with a large bonus for being on the 53 man roster or for playing Game One.

2) There will be a bidding war if he is cleared. He might end up getting much more than if someone drafted him at a discounted point in the draft.

3) The NFL could still step in and allow him to be in the Supplementary Draft. I would think that someone would give a 2016 first for him if he is cleared.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

If we don't sign Collins and he signs with someone else from our division, we know we have the man that can beat him because he's beaten him in both the passing game and the running game already.


"He (Trey Flowers) posted a class-best 46 hurries including three of the four pressures that La’el Collins of LSU surrendered in the entire season."


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/30/cff-overview-edge-top-of-the-crop/


"Flowers is lined up as the right defensive end opposite of one of the premier tackle prospects in this year’s draft, La’el Collins. Flowers gets off the ball quickly and resets the line of scrimmage two yards behind the line of scrimmage against LSU’s zone run. Flowers quickly fires his hands into Collins to initiate the contact. From there, Flowers keeps his legs driving and extends his arms to create separation between himself and Collins, which allows him to easily disengage and make the tackle at the line of scrimmage. Even though Flowers is much smaller, and presumably weaker, than Collins, he was still able to drive Collins back."


http://draftbreakdown.com/john-ownings-2015-nfl-draft-breakdown-trey-flowers-de-arkansas/

 

[50-yard-line]

I don't like this whole precedent, personally.

If Collins scores a big contract somewhere, what's to stop other players from threatening their way out of the draft and picking their teams?

 

[JMC00]

1) I see no reason for Collins not to make LOTS of money if he is cleared. This is a matter of structuring a contract with a large bonus for being on the 53 man roster or for playing Game One.

2) There will be a bidding war if he is cleared. He might end up getting much more than if someone drafted him at a discounted point in the draft.

Thought there were limits on UDFA contracts.

As for the signing bonus pretty sure the most he can get from a team is $80k because that's all teams are allowed to use on all their UDFA.

 

[patchick]

I don't like this whole precedent, personally.

If Collins scores a big contract somewhere, what's to stop other players from threatening their way out of the draft and picking their teams?

I guess the answer is just that somebody would be likely to call their bluff and pick them in the 7th, which is the worst-case scenario.

 

[Jimke]

Thought there were limits on UDFA contracts.

As for the signing bonus pretty sure the most he can get from a team is $80k because that's all teams are allowed to use on all their UDFA.

With only a few udfas, the Patriots may have most of their $80,000.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't like this whole precedent, personally.

If Collins scores a big contract somewhere, what's to stop other players from threatening their way out of the draft and picking their teams?

Lack of a relevant murder investigation?

 

[JMC00]

From what I've seen the most he can get is $1.57m guaranteed. Every team interested in him would give him that in a heartbeat.

 

[Ross12]

Lack of a relevant murder investigation?

Yeah I don't know how much of a precedent it really sets. If you're talented enough to be a first or second rounder then you want that guaranteed money, you're not going to give the league the finger for no reason just to pick your team. Conversely, if you're not as talented and would not be picked in the first few rounds, an action like that will just put you off most teams' radar entirely.

 

[Miguel]

1) I see no reason for Collins not to make LOTS of money if he is cleared. This is a matter of structuring a contract with a large bonus for being on the 53 man roster or for playing Game One.

There is a Undrafted Rookie Reservation limit of $86,957.
Pats have already used $22,500.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

There is a Undrafted Rookie Reservation limit of $86,957.

Miguel - what is the most someone can pay him (guaranteed) over the 3-year term? I've seen all sorts of different limits being suggested from various quarters (for example, there's a $1.57m suggestion a few posts back).

 

[Jimke]

There is a Undrafted Rookie Reservation limit of $86,957.
Pats have already used $22,500.

How does this compare to other teams?

 

[hwc]

Teams have expressed interest? Yawn....

Q) How can you tell when a player agent is leaking info (true or false) to encourage bidding?
A) When he has one or more bars on his cellphone....