Why we will continue AFC East Domination

[Froob]

The patriots were a great team because they beat lots and lots of good teams down the stretch, none of which are in the AFCE.

The division did indeed suck. The patriots were indeed 95% favorites to win the division. HOWEVER, the patriots were not a great team because of the weakness in the division.

I didnt mean that seriously. Its steelers fan logic.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I hope Brady's fire from Deflate-gate burns for another seven years. I really do believe, based on everything we know about him, that this has caused him to extend his longevity goals. You can't play at his level for fifteen years without being driven by pure hatred and a burning desire for vengeance. The guy has "everything" but convinces himself he has nothing and must scratch and claw to get it. That is true greatness.

Here is what I expect him to be like when he retires:

 

[Dillon46]

Why........ Because it's the Jets, Phins and Bills as our competitors....nuff said

 

[makoute]

The Pats have taken a slight step back for sure. We'll see how big. I'm not sure the Bills and Dolphins even improved. The JETS have improved the most. Analysts just discuss acquisitions and don't go over losses too often.

Buffalo - Lost their QB. I'd say that's pretty important. Orton was decent last year and they lost Spiller too. Are Cassel/McCoy better than Orton/Spiller? I say no. Clay a slight upgrade over Chandler. So, Percy Harvin is gong to improve that offense? Good luck with that. He'll be thrilled with their qb play. I feel Rex is a downgrade from Marrone too. Buffalo kicked his sorry arse 2x last year. And, now they hire him?? I don't get it.

Is Orton that much better or even better than Cassel? And McCoy is definitely a better player than Spiller. And Buffalo had a better football team than the Jets did last season, they had a better defense, and let's say that players like their young receivers (Watkins and Woods) continue to get better. We know Ryan gives the Pats/Brady fits, couple that with a more talented team, and on paper that might be cause for concern.

"Miami- Oh, they signed Suh!! Lost Hartline and Wallace. Added Stills. Is that an upgrade? Nope. They better hope Jordan Cameron stays healthy at TE. Because, he's no better than Clay. Lost Knoshown. Who killed us in Week 1. Again, where's the improvement on offense? Suh is an elite player. But, Jared Odrick wasn't chopped liver. Had to include Ellerbe in Wallace trade too because of cap. I'll give them an upgrade for sure. We'll see how big on the field. They look the same to me. 8-8.

Miami I don't think really got better on paper, they lost way more than they gained, they need to hit on a lot of spots in the draft.

" NY Jets - Added two really good players at a position they sucked. Revis and Cromartie. One word of caution. Getting the gang together 5 years later isn't always the best way to rebuild. But, really nowhere to go but up. So, an improvement on defense. They did have Percy Harvin and Chris Johnson when we played them in Week 16. Lost them and added Brandon Marshall. I'll give em a slight upgrade on a horrific offense because Fitzy is an improvement at qb. But, they're a 6-8 win team.

The Jets sucked last year, and played the Pats tough, their biggest issue on D was the CB position, they pretty much revamped that, they added arguably the best corner in the game a HOF, they added two good to very good CB in Cromartie and Skrine, they added a very good to great WR in Marshall to pair with a good WR in Decker, on paper that is one of the best DB corp in the NFL, added to what was already a pretty good Dline, on paper they got better, now whether the new coach will be able to harness the added talent is another story that will have to be played out on the field.

 

[Ring 6]

obvious to patriot posters who hate Ryan, was I noted in my post

You make it sound like its biased to think replacing a coach who had the team on the rise with one that was running his into the ground is bias.
Perhaps Ryan will do a little better in 15 than 14 because he inherited talent, but he will run this one into the ground too.

 

[mgteich]

You make it sound like its biased to think replacing a coach who had the team on the rise with one that was running his into the ground is bias.
Perhaps Ryan will do a little better in 15 than 14 because he inherited talent, but he will run this one into the ground too.

You think that Ryan is a terrible coach and will run Buffalo into the ground. You are free to that opinion.
I hope that you're right. I'm fine will all our AFCE opponents being at 500 or below.

My personal view is that Buffalo was (is and will be) a much better team than the jets and will continue to be so with Ryan as coach.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

You could have just said "Brady" for short.

 

[meatface]

Why........ Because it's the Jets, Phins and Bills as our competitors....nuff said

precisely, these teams will have spent all that money and find a way to a collective 16 games

 

[Ring 6]

You think that Ryan is a terrible coach and will run Buffalo into the ground. You are free to that opinion.
I hope that you're right. I'm fine will all our AFCE opponents being at 500 or below.

My personal view is that Buffalo was (is and will be) a much better team than the jets and will continue to be so with Ryan as coach.

Sorry, I wasn't using the 'anyone is entitled to any opinion they want' approach, I was using facts.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

The Jets defense is going to be pretty scary and difficult to deal with.. they have the corners to play press man and send blitzes gallore, and their defensive line is one of the best in football

 

[Galeb]

The Jets defense is going to be pretty scary and difficult to deal with.. they have the corners to play press man and send blitzes gallore, and their defensive line is one of the best in football

Agreed. The best way to beat them would be to get a good return off of one of their punts and score a field goal. Then your offense can kneel down on every offensive play for the rest of the game and not have to worry about injuries.

 

[1960Pats]

Sorry, I wasn't using the 'anyone is entitled to any opinion they want' approach, I was using facts.

I honestly don't understand what everyone sees in Rex Ryan. His track record so far has been to take a pretty promising Jets team and go backwards from there. He spent some time as the DC for Baltimore but they were only good for a year and lost after a couple of playoff wins. The only other time they were good with him as DC the Ravens went one and done in the playoffs.

He has turned into exactly what they said he was when he was denied the HC job in Baltimore. He's a loose cannon. What he does have for himself is a following.

 

[Galeb]

I honestly don't understand what everyone sees in Rex Ryan. His track record so far has been to take a pretty promising Jets team and go backwards from there. He spent some time as the DC for Baltimore but they were only good for a year and lost. The only time they were good with him as DC the Ravens went one and done in the playoffs.

He has turned into exactly what they said he was when he was denied the HC job in Baltimore. He's a loose cannon. What he does have for himself is a following.

You can say that again!

 

[1960Pats]

You can say that again!

Timing is everything.

 

[Ring 6]

I honestly don't understand what everyone sees in Rex Ryan. His track record so far has been to take a pretty promising Jets team and go backwards from there. He spent some time as the DC for Baltimore but they were only good for a year and lost after a couple of playoff wins. The only other time they were good with him as DC the Ravens went one and done in the playoffs.

He has turned into exactly what they said he was when he was denied the HC job in Baltimore. He's a loose cannon. What he does have for himself is a following.

People are led to believe he is better than he is because he tells them he is.
Over the last 4 years, the 'defensive genius' coached a defense that 21st in points allowed, and 29th in takeaways.
For some reason people think his false bravado makes him a tough guy who scares offenses, but the facts don't back it up.
That is just his over rated dynamic as a defensive coach. When you add in the awful leadership skills, accented by making stupid claims he can't back up (how many SBs has he guaranteed so far) having locker rooms that are divided more often than cohesive, players quitting on him, a terrible job of personnel evaluation, and a lack of knowledge combined with disinterest with the offensive side of the ball, why is anyone surprised that he hasn't have a winning season in 4 years?

 

[Sicilian]

People are led to believe he is better than he is because he tells them he is.
Over the last 4 years, the 'defensive genius' coached a defense that 21st in points allowed, and 29th in takeaways.
For some reason people think his false bravado makes him a tough guy who scares offenses, but the facts don't back it up.
That is just his over rated dynamic as a defensive coach. When you add in the awful leadership skills, accented by making stupid claims he can't back up (how many SBs has he guaranteed so far) having locker rooms that are divided more often than cohesive, players quitting on him, a terrible job of personnel evaluation, and a lack of knowledge combined with disinterest with the offensive side of the ball, why is anyone surprised that he hasn't have a winning season in 4 years?

I think he also gets overrated because his style of defense can be very flashy. He throws a lot of weird looking blitzes that, when they work, look completely overpowering. The problem is, when they don't work, it's a big gain. He's not a BAD defensive coach, he just gets more credit than he deserves because he coaches defense in a way that looks more dominant than it is.

I also think it's interesting that his best defensive years with the Jets were when he had Revis (and thus those gambling blitzes had a safety net). Once Revis was hurt or gone, it just fell apart. Meanwhile, the Patriots have been consistently able to field a good defense (at least in terms of points allowed) both with and without Revis.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

I hope Brady's fire from Deflate-gate burns for another seven years. I really do believe, based on everything we know about him, that this has caused him to extend his longevity goals. You can't play at his level for fifteen years without being driven by pure hatred and a burning desire for vengeance. The guy has "everything" but convinces himself he has nothing and must scratch and claw to get it. That is true greatness.

Here is what I expect him to be like when he retires:

LOL, Brady seldom show it, but yes, I do think these kinds of things drive him. I remember in one interview, he said that he always had a was competitive drive, because he feared that at any moment, he could be replaced and lose his starter position. I actually think that Jimmy Garrappolo's relative success in the game against Kansas city was part of the reason why he made a dramatic improvement.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Anyone feel like better competition in the AFC division would help to actually IMPROVE the Patriots? I mean, seriously? A quarter billion dollars!!!!!!!! That's some big time money, but it could light a fire in Brady and Belichick and help to motivate the team, I hope.

 

[1960Pats]

People are led to believe he is better than he is because he tells them he is.
Over the last 4 years, the 'defensive genius' coached a defense that 21st in points allowed, and 29th in takeaways.
For some reason people think his false bravado makes him a tough guy who scares offenses, but the facts don't back it up.
That is just his over rated dynamic as a defensive coach. When you add in the awful leadership skills, accented by making stupid claims he can't back up (how many SBs has he guaranteed so far) having locker rooms that are divided more often than cohesive, players quitting on him, a terrible job of personnel evaluation, and a lack of knowledge combined with disinterest with the offensive side of the ball, why is anyone surprised that he hasn't have a winning season in 4 years?

And defense is his supposed strength. His offenses have been non-existent.

The best suggestion I saw concerning Ryan came from an ex-player who I didn't know. He thought that Ryan should have taken a year off and studied offense, hopefully with some offensive guru type, then come back to the NFL. If he fails in Buffalo now I can't see him getting another HC job, even though his big yapper pleases some fans and most of the media.

 

[Jetsfan25678]

No, the Patriots will continue AFC East dominantion, because they have one of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time in Tom Brady. Once Brady retires, or regresses to the point where he is no longer considered an elite QB, the Patriots domination of the divison will come to an end.