NFLPA says, "18 game season... no way"

[Deus Irae]

That is simply not a rational argument. More game =/= more injuries, if anything more playing time = more injury. But there are ways around that as has been mentioned such as increasing roster size. If more games = more injury then would you agree that 16 is too many? Why not?

But more games does equal more injuries. It will be true no matter how many times you make the false claim to the contrary, and claiming that such an argument is not rational won't change that reality.

 

[reflexblue]

That is simply not a rational argument. More game =/= more injuries, if anything more playing time = more injury. But there are ways around that as has been mentioned such as increasing roster size. If more games = more injury then would you agree that 16 is too many? Why not?

Increasing the rosters size affects the quality of the game, there are just so many players of sufficient talent to go around until the game resembles amature hour. If you have a finite supply of talented players than eventually the game suffers.

 

[Observer]

Increasing the rosters size affects the quality of the game, there are just so many players of sufficient talent to go around until the game resembles amature hour. If you have a finite supply of talented players than eventually the suffers.

Even if I give you that, what is the magic number of games? Brady went down week 1, wilfork somewhere around week 3? Mayo shortly thereafter, welker week 14? Gronkowski and Talib made it a habit to end their season around week 17... So where do you draw the line?

If the NFLPA were to agree to more games with the requirement that no player can play more than 16 regular season games, would that be acceptable?

 

[reflexblue]

Even if I give you that,

If you give me that? why would anyone want to watch watered down USFL style football?

 

[captain stone]

Another objection I have with an expanded regular-season schedule is that the current schedule
seems to fit well with the current division alignment: everyone in your division plays the same
in-conference division and the same out-of-conference division. The only glitch is those 2 games
vs teams that finished in the same position in the other in-conference divisions. It's about as balanced a system as I can see.

 

[Observer]

If you give me that? why would anyone want to watch watered down USFL style football?

I gave you plenty of examples of how it is already watered down.

 

[Ivan]

Don't know what you are trying to get at but I am never going to buy that one three hour game a week with unlimited substitution is such an injury or fatigue risk that pro athletes can't play more. If that is the case then every single game is too much of an injury risk and they should do something about that instead.

And we appreciate your thoughts on it. It is always good to get a well rounded perspective before making a decision so getting the input of someone who has clearly never played sports before helps us with our views.

 

[Joker]

I slept at a Motel 6 once.....

 

[YearbookCurfew]

Good. With the amount of injuries each team has every season, I shudder to think how many there would be with an extra two games. I would be willing to bet that football careers would become even shorter than they already are.

 

[Deus Irae]

This crap's been talked about for years:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/239782-nfl-intent-lengthening-season.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/242524-18-game-season-satisfies-all-sides.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/225835-do-you-want-17-18-regular-season-games.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/345001-brady-weighs-possible-extended-season.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/95/451628-owners-vote-18-games-season.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/465485-18-games-season-concept.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/741346-nflpa-says-no-chance-18-game-season.html

Now it's expanding the playoffs, as well. Anything for a buck, and enough is never enough.

 

[moosekill]

Bargaining, no way we will do
It, unless...........

 

[Galeb]

It seems odd that some people don't understand how much the cumulative injuries over a 16 games affects the quality of football at the end of the season. It's not just about the injuries that take guys off the field. After 16 games, every player on the field is nursing injuries.

One of the greatest things about the NFL right now is the importance of just about EVERY game. If the games weren't so frickin meaningful, the constant commercials and shoddy officiating would completely ruin the game. As games keep getting added, the importance of each individual game diminishes. Let's not forget how crappy games can be when teams have clinched.

Those who do not understand the harm that expanding the season will cause simply don't understand what makes the NFL great.

 

[RayClay]

Doesn't the current head injury protocol show that the league is concerned about health of the players?

Plus, it's not like injuries happen mostly at the end of the season. Last year we had Amendola, Vince, Tommy Kelly, Mayo... all down by midseason. A longer season wouldn't heal them faster.

1. Shows they're worried about lawsuits.

2. The fact that their are injuries at other times doesn't mean that tired players in season and less recovery time off season and less preparation time pre season wouldn't lead to more injuries.

We go deep into the playoffs more on a consistent basis than about anyone and always seem to have lots of injuries.

 

[Ring 6]

If you give me that? why would anyone want to watch watered down USFL style football?

If the talent level is pretty much equal and the games are competitive, people will consider it good football.
Why isn't college football considered watered down, when only a small fraction of the players are good enough to make it to the NFL?
The USFL was considered watered down, only because you have the NFL to compare it to.
We don't know if there are 5000 better atletes who would make better football players out there who are not in the NFL because they just didnt play football.

Its all relative.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Regarding injury protocol, I'd like to see more players allowed onto the limited term IR which does not count against the 53. If it's possible for a guy to re-hab over 8 weeks or so it's best for the fans to see these major starting talents back playing before the post season. It also helps players rack up better career stats if they get injured early yet don't have to miss an entire season.

 

[Ivan]

Don't know what you are trying to get at but I am never going to buy that one three hour game a week with unlimited substitution is such an injury or fatigue risk that pro athletes can't play more. If that is the case then every single game is too much of an injury risk and they should do something about that instead.

Quote:
"I've taken part in several postseason runs where we have played 20 games,” writes Brady. “The long-term impact this game has on our bodies is well-documented. Look no further than the players that came before we did. Each player today has to play three years in order to earn five years’ or post-career health care. Our union has done a great job of raising the awareness on these issues and will make the right decision for us players, the game and the fans.”






Yeah right, what would he know about it............?

 

[oldrover]

Actually, the most games he's played in is 19. Unless he's counting preseason.

And if he is, then cutting preseason games to add regular season games should be workable.

 

[Ivan]

Actually, the most games he's played in is 19. Unless he's counting preseason.

And if he is, then cutting preseason games to add regular season games should be workable.

Right on the money. What would Brady know about the seasons he has played in, he's just a player, you on the other hand watch some of those games and have a much much better understanding of the toll football takes on a player, Brady would have no idea what that's like.

 

[SB39]

If you give me that? why would anyone want to watch watered down USFL style football?

If you took away the actual team uniforms, I honestly doubt the average fan would be able to tell the difference between a USFL game and an NFL game of the same era. The USFL had a lot of good talent.

This 18-game change is inevitable. It is eventually going to happen. The almighty dollar will win out and the players' own greed will alleviate all those injury concerns.

 

[SB39]

Boy, with all this silly talk about how playing 18 games will lead to nothing but endless IR lists and walking wounded all over the place, how in the world have the Patriots players survived the past decade-plus????

Over the past 13 years, the Patriots have average 17.92 games per season - and exactly 18 over the past 11. The way people in here are talking, you'd think they would be nothing but a bunch of cripples by this point.