NFLPA says, "18 game season... no way"

[Observer]

re: NFLPA says, "18 game season... no way"

We were playing last season with off-the-street pickups on the defensive line and our main linebackers missing long before the playoffs came around, not to mention our wide receivers all hurt and tight end gone as well. Clearly 16 games is too many. Why not reduce it to 10? That would be better wouldn't it? Why is 16 a magic number that cannot be exceeded?

 

[oldrover]

Re: OT: NFLPA say, "18 game season... no way"

Do not ascribe satanic to me again.

I was not serious with that; my internal censor should have kicked in. I did not mean to upset you or hurt your feelings or characterize you personally in any bad way, so I apologize.

I still feel that if 12 to 14 is OK, and 14 to 16 is OK, and we are reducing preseason by 2 games, then 16 to 18 is OK, assuming the players association leverages the opportunity to do something for its membership, past, present and future.

 

[Miguel]

Please tell me the NFLPA can also say no to 14 team playoffs.

They claim that they can since a change like that is something that should be collectively bargained since it changes the work environment/conditions.
Do not recall the exact words.

 

[grux]

Nice job NFLPA. The players bodies take enough abuse with a 16 game season and playoffs. The #1 priority should be to keep the players safe.

 

[Observer]

If the players and NFLPA are so concerned about safety then they should not play football in the first place.

 

[1960Pats]

NFLPA president Eric Winston says expanded NFL season won't happen - ESPN Boston

I'm surprised... I figured the NFLPA would say, "Sure. 12.5% more games... and the roster expands by 12.5%... and existing contracts expand by 12.5%... and the salary cap expands by 12.5%."

That would be good for everyone. Unless I'm missing something.

Which I usually am. LOL

Concussions and other player injuries will go up by 12.5% too. The only thing that won't go up by 12.5% will be the price of tickets. Those will probably go up 15%.

 

[1960Pats]

Please tell me the NFLPA can also say no to 14 team playoffs.

That would be acceptable to me if I were a player, and I'd be playing on offense, defense and special teams (WR, LB and Kicker.) :biggrin2:

 

[Observer]

The injuries in football are not cumulative result of 16 game exposure. The player is just as likely to be out for the season in the first game as in the last. And I don't think there is any shortage of free agents available to fill the missing player's spot. If the want to reduce a player's likelihood of getting hurt, they can rest the player for a few games.

 

[Deus Irae]

The injuries in football are not cumulative result of 16 game exposure. The player is just as likely to be out for the season in the first game as in the last. And I don't think there is any shortage of free agents available to fill the missing player's spot. If the want to reduce a player's likelihood of getting hurt, they can rest the player for a few games.

Yes, teams are always looking to rest their QBs and pass rushers for a game or two :bricks:

 

[oldrover]

Injuries are part of the game. Whether 12, 14, 16 or 18 game seasons.

When injuries inevitably happen, other players get a chance.

Patriots wouldn't have Brady at QB without an injury.

Matt Cassel wouldn't have gotten a chance to start without an injury.

More games means more injuries. It did when we went from 12 to 14, and more when we went to 16. But it also means more chances for more players, and an edge to a team that can build depth.

Concussions and MCLs can happen in a 1-game season, people. The NFLPA should realize this is a great chance to increase their ranks, and their wealth.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

16 is even pushing the limits now. I know injuries can happen at any time, but as a players body wears down each week, injury chances shoot up.

 

[Observer]

Yes, teams are always looking to rest their QBs and pass rushers for a game or two :bricks:

If as people are claiming, playing more increases chances of injury and the player is important enough to the team that they want him for the bigger games then they will rest him. If playing more does not change the chances of injury then there is no reason to complain about more games.

Either way, playing more games is not a problem. If there is too much of a chance of injury when playing a single game then the game itself is a problem.

 

[Joker]

If as people are claiming, playing more increases chances of injury and the player is important enough to the team that they want him for the bigger games then they will rest him. If playing more does not change the chances of injury then there is no reason to complain about more games.

Either way, playing more games is not a problem. If there is too much of a chance of injury when playing a single game then the game itself is a problem.

I believe you've strayed into the quantum physics area of uncertainty...

Uncertainty principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Observer]

I believe you've strayed into the quantum physics area of uncertainty...



Uncertainty principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't know what you are trying to get at but I am never going to buy that one three hour game a week with unlimited substitution is such an injury or fatigue risk that pro athletes can't play more. If that is the case then every single game is too much of an injury risk and they should do something about that instead.

 

[Joker]

sorry...I realize it's a little bit too esoteric for a sports message board...my bad.

 

[Deus Irae]

If as people are claiming, playing more increases chances of injury and the player is important enough to the team that they want him for the bigger games then they will rest him. If playing more does not change the chances of injury then there is no reason to complain about more games.

Either way, playing more games is not a problem. If there is too much of a chance of injury when playing a single game then the game itself is a problem.

Your posts on this topic are nothing that we haven't gone over before. The inclusion of claim regarding injuries isn't new, either. Thanks, but most people, including the league, are smart enough to grasp the obvious. More games = more injuries.

 

[Observer]

Your posts on this topic are nothing that we haven't gone over before. The inclusion of claim regarding injuries isn't new, either. Thanks, but most people, including the league, are smart enough to grasp the obvious. More games = more injuries.

That is simply not a rational argument. More game =/= more injuries, if anything more playing time = more injury. But there are ways around that as has been mentioned such as increasing roster size. If more games = more injury then would you agree that 16 is too many? Why not?

 

[captain stone]

...and please, do not EVER frame any reply by me with something so ridiculous as "satanic". I'm against expansion to 18 for rational, easily indentifiable reasons. I'm not trying to "win" anybody over. Do not ascriube satanic to me again.

So, what are your thoughts on…
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[Joker]

I overreacted...BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!

:ugh:

 

[MassPats38]

If as people are claiming, playing more increases chances of injury and the player is important enough to the team that they want him for the bigger games then they will rest him. If playing more does not change the chances of injury then there is no reason to complain about more games.

Either way, playing more games is not a problem. If there is too much of a chance of injury when playing a single game then the game itself is a problem.

First, how would a team what games are and are not important when they sit key players in real time? Opposing teams' final records and playoff cuts are not handed out at the beginning of the season. Future-yielding crystal balls tend to be in short supply when the season begins. If they existed, then teams could plan accordingly.

Second, I believe it was Rodney Harrison who analogized a football game to taking a few steps away from a wall and then running into it full speed. Then repeat that 30 times or so. The human body does not simply recover from that abuse after a good night's sleep. The wear and tear is cumulative, with each game requiring longer recovery. That is why Thursday games with shorter breaks are very tough on the players. Your theory ignores this simple reality. More games absolutely matter.