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So Michael Sam Is Gay, Who Cares? Can He Rush The QB?


My guess at a BB reaction behind closed doors in foxborough,,,

"Hell, if he gets me 12 sacks a year I'll f*** him."
 
Yes, and those players are stupid and should be told as much until they pull their heads out of their asses.

Why dont you tell them that their opinion is wrong.

Nobody here is suggesting that people don't have the right to hate gays or their lifestyle. You can hate and be an ignorant bigot. That's your right. I can call you out on your ignorance. That's my right.

Youre the classic example of when someone does not agree with you its time to lash out.
 
Um, there are players in the locker room doing all kinds of sinful things and it is accepted by these religious players....

Yeah, but just not fishing the other side of the creek.
 
Um, there are players in the locker room doing all kinds of sinful things and it is accepted by these religious players....

Just because all kinds of sinful stuff may happen around religious players doesn't necessarily mean they agree with it or accept it.
 
Anyways on to the most important question in this thread that has still never been answered. Can Micheal Sam rush the QB?
 
Just because all kinds of sinful stuff may happen around religious players doesn't necessarily mean they agree with it or accept it.

He's not saying that they have to accept the sins of their teammates, he's pointing out that they do exactly that, all the time.

If a player's religious convictions are so strong that he has a genuine problem with his teammates sinning, then that's a difficult position for him to be in. But if he has a problem with a teammate committing the sin of homosexuality, but can overlook the fact that 30 other teammates are committing the sin of adultery, then clearly it's not the act of sinning that he has a problem with.
 
Just because all kinds of sinful stuff may happen around religious players doesn't necessarily mean they agree with it or accept it.

Similarly, there may be religions other than what you recognize at large in the NFL. For example a player may have a "live and let live" ethos, and not feel particularly drawn to whatever his "religious" teammates would like him to participate in. Others may be deeply religious, and still understand how and why various parts of the bible came to be -- and so do not find 3,000-year-old prohibitions against homosexuality to be the core message.

How many NFL players do what Jesus says they should do "if you would be perfect," and give away everything they physically owned to follow Jesus? Not many? Are your "religious" players offended by this behavior?

These very selectively "religious" players you talk about are bigots.

That is okay. Their interpretation of their religion says they should be bigots.

However, they'll have to keep that to themselves. It may be uncomfortable for them to have an openly gay teammate. It will very likely be more uncomfortable for the first openly gay man to play in the NFL.

I am sure some had problems playing alongside Jackie Robinson in baseball -- and yes, people were still peddling segregation as biblically derived at the time. Since the inferiority of Blacks was biblical, the logic went, so was segregation.

We're in exactly the same place. Civil rights, pure and simple. Treat people the same.

Or, has Hillel put it before the derivative version, "Do not do unto your neighbor what is hateful unto you."

If there were some scifi scenario where everybody was gay except you, and you were particularly skilled at a sport, would you want to be disqualified at the pro level because your sexuality offended the delicate sensibilities of somebody's interpretation of a religion?

Civil rights, chief. Not religion. Civil rights.
 
He's not saying that they have to accept the sins of their teammates, he's pointing out that they do exactly that, all the time.

If a player's religious convictions are so strong that he has a genuine problem with his teammates sinning, then that's a difficult position for him to be in. But if he has a problem with a teammate committing the sin of homosexuality, but can overlook the fact that 30 other teammates are committing the sin of adultery, then clearly it's not the act of sinning that he has a problem with.

Some religious men have never cheated on their wives and never would.They live by example for others. Some religious men have cheated. They gave into temptation. To them, its a gray area. Everyone can rationalize about something that you know you should not do. It does not make is right though.

What neither group can rationalize is that homosexuality is OK and should be accepted because the world wants it.
 
"Observe my statutes. "You are not to let your cattle breed with a different species. "You are not to sow your fields with two different kinds of seeds. "You are not to wear clothing made from two different kinds of material." -Leviticus 19:19

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Uh oh. So the very act of wearing an NFL uniform is a pretty major problem, isn't it? Hopefully this ultra-religious contingent of players that you keep referencing can come to terms with the fact that their uniforms are made of pure sin.

There are also verses in the bible about how to treat your slaves.

Those dont apply today.
 
Some religious men have never cheated on their wives and never would.They live by example for others. Some religious men have cheated. They gave into temptation. To them, its a gray area. Everyone can rationalize about something that you know you should not do. It does not make is right though.

What neither group can rationalize is that homosexuality is OK and should be accepted because the world wants it.

It isn't that the world "wants it" It is that our brothers, sisters, friends, and loved ones are homosexual and we want them to live happy lives. Not be the subject of scorn, ridicule, discrimination, and needless hate.
 
It isn't that the world "wants it" It is that our brothers, sisters, friends, and loved ones are homosexual and we want them to live happy lives. Not be the subject of scorn, ridicule, discrimination, and needless hate.

The world wants it. The ways of this world and where it is leading.

I want the people from Duck Dynasty to have happy lives and not be ridiculed and hated by progressives.
 
The world wants it. The ways of this world and where it is leading.

I want the people from Duck Dynasty to have happy lives and not be ridiculed and hated by progressives.

The people from duck dynasty choose their path, homosexuals do not.
 
The world wants it. The ways of this world and where it is leading.

I want the people from Duck Dynasty to have happy lives and not be ridiculed and hated by progressives.

Well, the world didn't want Duck Dynasty after Phil turned out to be a homophobe.

Their ratings took a steep nosedive after that. Got hit pretty hard.
 
There are also verses in the bible about how to treat your slaves.

Those dont apply today.

Then neither should the homophobic verses, right?
 
Maybe I'm cynical, or whatever, but I still think that the Duck Dynasty dude's whole thing was purposeful to build up some controversy.

It's not like those dudes are really hicks, they were all mega rich southern yuppie types who grew beards once they became actors.
 


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