So Michael Sam Is Gay, Who Cares? Can He Rush The QB?

[PP2]

You obviously have no clue about me and how I treat homosexuals.

Your statement:

Because I believe the gay lifestyle is probably a very lonely lifestyle. Basically due to the guilt and emptiness it can bring. Gay guys have the most sex and sex partners of anyone but it's probably not fulfilling. I'm basing this on their extremely high numbers of drug and alcohol abuse and also their suicide rates.

Tells me all I need to know how you would treat them.

It also shows me that you know absolutely nothing about them.

So please don't lie to me about how you "treat them."

With that kind of contemptuous hatred, I can only imagine that YOU are one who's lonely.

 

[Ring 6]

You obviously have no clue about me and how I treat homosexuals.

You have made it very clear. You think they are psychologically damaged. You think they are gross. You think they should get help to stop being gay.
You would be nice to them if they hid the fact they are gay.
In a word, hatred.

 

[Boogs]

Your statement:



Tells me all I need to know how you would treat them.

It also shows me that you know absolutely nothing about them.

So please don't lie to me about how you "treat them."

With that kind of contemptuous hatred, I can only imagine that YOU are one who's lonely.

Lol dude. You are so wrong.

 

[PP2]

Lol dude. You are so wrong.

Here are your lonely, sad gay people. They sure look depressed:



Thanks to Pats16N0 for helping me out.

 

[Boogs]

Here are your lonely, sad gay people. They sure look depressed:



Thanks to Pats16N0 for helping me out.

Oh man! Way too much fun for me! I'll take boring any day.

 

[Ring 6]

His point was never destroyed.

Of course it was.

Physical anatomy of the sexes suggests male and female are designed for each other sexually and to be attracted to each other. Our anatomy suggests that we are not intended to be attracted to the same sex.

What does anatomy have to do with attraction? Anatomy has to do with reproduction.
You will no doubt dodge this question again, but unless the only sex you have is intercourse for procreation, then what you do, for enjoyment, that is not intended to impregnate is equally unnatural.
If you and your wife orallly pleasure each other, that is not what was intended by nature.
Why is your wife preforming fellatio on you and more or less natural than a man doing it?

That's extremely strong evidence of what is intended or natural, and how things are supposed to be.

What you are saying is that sex is not intended for pleasure, it is only natural as a means of procreation. If that is the case, why is it so enjoyable? Why are sexual acts other than vaginal intercourse pleasurable if God didn't want them to happen? I hear that gay people enjoy sex. Wouldn't God made it unpleasurable if it was forbidden?

It's an imperfect world, and I think it's not always the gay person's fault that they have no attraction to the opposite sex.

OMG, you think you need to assign blame for why someone is different than you?
That is unbelievable.

Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. Because that would be a terrible thing IMO if it were me.

Because you are not gay.
No one expect a straight person to wish they were gay.
Just like no one should expect a gay person to wish they were straight.
Being different from you is not a curse, and given your posts this week, I would say its a relief.

Because I believe the gay lifestyle is probably a very lonely lifestyle. Basically due to the guilt and emptiness it can bring.

If you had to go live a gay lifestyle that would probably be true because YOU ARE NOT GAY.
Gay people are not guilty or empty or lonely.
They are ridiculed and bullied though. Perhaps if you just let them live their life the way they want to they would be happier.

Gay guys have the most sex and sex partners of anyone but it's probably not fulfilling.

Where do you find yourself qualified to make that judgment?

I'm basing this on their extremely high numbers of drug and alcohol abuse and also their suicide rates.

You do realize that a tremendous amount of that is because they were born to parents like you right?

Honest question, if son or daughter came to you and said they were gay, they do not feel it is wrong or they are psycho, they intend to live a gay lifestyle and want your support, what do you do?

 

[Ring 6]

Because I believe the gay lifestyle is probably a very lonely lifestyle. Basically due to the guilt and emptiness it can bring. Gay guys have the most sex and sex partners of anyone but it's probably not fulfilling. I'm basing this on their extremely high numbers of drug and alcohol abuse and also their suicide rates.

If left handed people were told their entire life that being left handed is disgusting and they should be ashamed. If left handed people were told by religious zealots that God disapproved of left handed people. if left handed people went to school and were made fun of for being left handed, picked on and bullied for being left handed. If every time someone did something different everyone said 'thats left handed'. If left handed people had parents who disowned them because no child of theirs would be left handed. If left handed people were afraid of the reaction of their parents, friends, grandparents, etc of admitting they are left handed. If left handed people saw a large amount of people protesting and going on TV to describe how God doesn't want left handed people to marry each other. If a not insignificant portion of society felt it was their obligation to tell left handed people they will never accept them and they are unnatural or inhuman.

Then left handed people would have an extremely high level of drug and alcohol abuse and suicide.

 

[Boogs]

If left handed people were told their entire life that being left handed is disgusting and they should be ashamed. If left handed people were told by religious zealots that God disapproved of left handed people. if left handed people went to school and were made fun of for being left handed, picked on and bullied for being left handed. If every time someone did something different everyone said 'thats left handed'. If left handed people had parents who disowned them because no child of theirs would be left handed. If left handed people were afraid of the reaction of their parents, friends, grandparents, etc of admitting they are left handed. If left handed people saw a large amount of people protesting and going on TV to describe how God doesn't want left handed people to marry each other. If a not insignificant portion of society felt it was their obligation to tell left handed people they will never accept them and they are unnatural or inhuman.

Then left handed people would have an extremely high level of drug and alcohol abuse and suicide.

As I've told you, gays should be treated with kindness.

 

[Ring 6]

As I've told you, gays should be treated with kindness.

Then you should do so. Telling them there is something wrong with them and they need to deny who they are is not kindness.

Gays should be treated just like everyone else. You fail on that. That is not kind.

Are you denying that gay people have been subjected to all the treatment that I just posted?

 

[Ring 6]

As I've told you, gays should be treated with kindness.

Please answer my question in the previous post about your gay child.

 

[PP2]

Oh man! Way too much fun for me! I'll take boring any day.

Seems to me like you are the one who's lonely, not them.

As you say, they are having way too much fun. Hardly people you would characterize as being depressed.

 

[PP2]

As I've told you, gays should be treated with kindness.

False kindness is actually worse than outright hatred.

At least outright hatred is against the law.

 

[Boogs]

Then you should do so. Telling them there is something wrong with them and they need to deny who they are is not kindness.

Gays should be treated just like everyone else. You fail on that. That is not kind.

Are you denying that gay people have been subjected to all the treatment that I just posted?

There is something wrong with everyone Andy. I don't tell them unless I'm asked. And once again, you couldn't be more wrong with how I treat gays in the real world.
Sure gays have been made fun of. But so have nerds, fat people, ugly people etc. And it's not right to do. But in the modern world it's now very cool to be gay. So the drug and alcohol abuse and suicide rates should be near the same as heterosexuals.

 

[Boogs]

Seems to me like you are the one who's lonely, not them.

As you say, they are having way too much fun. Hardly people you would characterize as being depressed.

Good try buddy.

 

[PP2]

There is something wrong with everyone Andy. I don't tell them unless I'm asked. And once again, you couldn't be more wrong with how I treat gays in the real world.

Everyone has something wrong with them.. but most of what is wrong with them is moderate or easy to fixed. You on the other hand, have something seriously wrong with you.

Again, you are wrong about the way you think you treat gay people.

It is most definitely not kindness.

It is the exact same way Jim Crow treated the black people. He was kind to them as long as they did exactly what he told them to do.

If you think gay people would refrain about talking about sex or other things around you just because it makes you get your panties in a bunch, you are wrong.

 

[Boogs]

Everyone has something wrong with them.. but most of what is wrong with them is moderate or easy to fixed. You on the other hand, have something seriously wrong with you.

Again, you are wrong about the way you think you treat gay people.

It is most definitely not kindness.

It is the exact same way Jim Crow treated the black people. He was kind to them as long as they did exactly what he told them to do.

If you think gay people would refrain about talking about sex or other things around you just because it makes you get your panties in a bunch, you are wrong.

Sorry, but I don't wear panties.

 

[PP2]

Good try buddy.

Seems pretty logical to me.

You see all gay people as being depressed and lonely, but you don't know anything about them.

So what you've done is project the way you really feel, onto them.

Perhaps that is why you hate them, because for you, they symbolize all that you hate about yourself.

Do me a favor and don't call me buddy. None of my buddies are bigots.

 

[Ring 6]

There is something wrong with everyone Andy. I don't tell them unless I'm asked. And once again, you couldn't be more wrong with how I treat gays in the real world.
Sure gays have been made fun of. But so have nerds, fat people, ugly people etc. And it's not right to do. But in the modern world it's now very cool to be gay. So the drug and alcohol abuse and suicide rates should be near the same as heterosexuals.

You have to be kidding me. Its cool to be gay?
9 out of 10 gay teenagers say they are verbally or physically bullied because they are gay.
Ignorant parents are disowning their children because they are gay.
Violence is committed every day on gay people because they are gay.
People like you tell them they have psychological problems.
Until a few days ago no NFL player was comfortable enough with the way they would be treated by players, front offices and society to not hide thier homosexuality. Yeah its so cool.

You seem to be mistaking the fact that some people are now treating gay people like people with it being 'cool'.

 

[Ring 6]

There is something wrong with everyone Andy.

That is not the same as you telling gay people that their identity is wrong.

You are a bigot. But you are happy with being one, and you only have to deal with people having a problem with your bigotry every now and then.

You are telling gay people that their entire set of feelings, their love, their life are wrong. Its a tremendous difference.

You still haven't answered my question.

 

[WhoaDirty]

I don't think I have seen one thing answered by the 'it's unnatural' pundits:

If 'natural' is being defined as involving sex acts for procreation, does that mean any sex act not for procreation is 'unnatural'?