Rumor - McDaniels to be the Browns HC

[ausbacker]

Honestly I'm not anywhere near convinced that Belichick is going to hang it up so I never expected to see McDaniels step in for him here. I don't think I'd go anywhere near Cleveland, though, after they sent Chud packing after a single season. Denver already cut McDaniels time short after just 18 months so going to a team with bush league ownership like Cleveland seems dumb.

There are better jobs out there for him.

I will gladly suffer through another 14 seasons of Coach Belichick at the helm.

 

[supafly]

Belichick likes players and coaches who choose to stay here, and often gives them the option of testing the waters in the open market. Sometimes this method backfires a bit as other organizations tend to overpay or offer better deals or starting positions, but I think he has the respect of just about all coaches and players for doing so.

I think sometimes it's the old "value" category, whereas other times it's just a matter of wishing someone the best and offering them a chance at a better personal deal for themselves and their families. One can certainly assume that Belichick considered the possibility of JMcDaniels getting some HC offers once he came back here for a season or so, yet there likely weren't any clauses or anything preventing him from leaving either. I think I may have been a bit more selfish and had included some kind of time period in there, preventing him from leaving for a certain number of years.

This is just one more reason why the Richard Seymours of the world and their situations with not liking Belichick seem kind of strange to me, as I don't believe there are too many times where he "uses" players or coaches as the average idiot media members and other teams' fanbases suggest.

 

[Deus Irae]

Dimitroff has done a great job in Atlanta. McDaniels drafts laid a big part of the foundation for what the Broncos are doing. Pioli brought a lot of talent in to K.C.. Mangini won in 2 of his 3 Jets seasons. Crennel led the Browns to their only double digit wins season since 1994 (Belichick).

The claims about the Patriots coaches and front office people are nowhere near as cut and dry as a lot of people like to claim.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Dimitroff has done a great job in Atlanta. McDaniels drafts laid a big part of the foundation for what the Broncos are doing. Pioli brought a lot of talent in to K.C.. Mangini won in 2 of his 3 Jets seasons. Crennel led the Browns to their only double digit wins season since 1994 (Belichick).

The claims about the Patriots coaches and front office people are nowhere near as cut and dry as a lot of people like to claim.

Agreed. It's not clear cut. But the only thing that might make it clear cut is QB play.

The main reason why Dimitroff has been successful is because hes had a steady QB situation. This last year was brutal with injuries but I expect them to be good again in 2014.

KC- Pioli did a good job in selecting talent. He did a terrible job in selecting coaches. Cassell played well in 2009 and they made the playoffs.

Personally I thought Mangini got hosed in NY. In 06 Pennington did well and they went 10-6. In 08 they were 8-3 and Favre blows out his bicep, throws 9 picks in his last 5 games and they drop 4 of the 5 to miss the playoffs. He did draft pretty well though which served as s good foundation for Ryan. With that said, Mangini was bad in CLE on a number of levels.

RAC got decent QB play one year and went 10-6 but still missed the playoffs.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I guess it just goes back to what I was saying in that I just hope they look at all options available rather than just blindly putting Daboll in McDaniel's place. That's all.

What we are telling you is that all options are not on the table, only those options that maintain their offensive system are in play. They will not bring in an OC from outside to implement a new offensive system.

 

[supafly]

Obviously, most of would rather see McDaniels stay here, including myself. It's not written in stone that he's leaving just yet.

Assuming that he does move on though, I still think we'll be just fine. As many have pointed out, the system stays the same, and we have experienced coaches in our system in Daboll and O'Shea.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Obviously, most of would rather see McDaniels stay here, including myself. It's not written in stone that he's leaving just yet.

Assuming that he does move on though, I still think we'll be just fine. As many have pointed out, the system stays the same, and we have experienced coaches in our system in Daboll and O'Shea.

Yep and Daboll has OC experience.

 

[Deus Irae]

Obviously, most of would rather see McDaniels stay here, including myself. It's not written in stone that he's leaving just yet.

Assuming that he does move on though, I still think we'll be just fine. As many have pointed out, the system stays the same, and we have experienced coaches in our system in Daboll and O'Shea.

Daboll has been horrible as an O.C., and horrible is being kind.

 

[supafly]

Daboll has been horrible as an O.C., and horrible is being kind.

I wouldn't really worry about how he's done in other places as much as you may, considering that our system has basically been in place for awhile, and he has a much better grouping of talent and coaching here.

Brady and Belichick go a long way towards making up the difference in my opinion.

On top of that if Belichick doesn't care for Daboll or has any doubts, he simply won't make him OC. I would imagine that we'd be able to switch some things up in terms of adjustments coming from BB himself should we get off to a bad start next year. As I said though, I'm still not convinced that McDaniels will definitely leave this year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I wouldn't really worry about how he's done in other places as much as you may, considering that our system has basically been in place for awhile, and he has a much better grouping of talent and coaching here.

Brady and Belichick go a long way towards making up the difference in my opinion.

On top of that if Belichick doesn't care for Daboll or has any doubts, he simply won't make him OC. I would imagine that we'd be able to switch some things up in terms of adjustments coming from BB himself should we get off to a bad start next year. As I said though, I'm still not convinced that McDaniels will definitely leave this year.

Agree. Daboll has been OC for some pretty crappy teams.

I also think its not a given JMD leaves- especially for unstable ground like CLE.

 

[Triumph]

Mickey D is as good as gone.

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Browns are expected to hire Jim Schwartz as their defensive coordinator.

What the Browns are doing, we have no clue. Rob Chudzinski assembled a star-studded coordinator pairing in OC Norv Turner and DC Ray Horton last offseason. Horton is one of the brighter defensive minds in the game. The Browns have told him he can seek employment elsewhere, and he'll have zero trouble landing on his feet. Schwartz worked with the Browns as a scout from 1993-1995 when Bill Belichick was the coach. Current Browns GM Mike Lombardi was also on that staff. Schwartz coordinated the Titans defense from 2001-2008. Of course, the Browns have no idea who their next head coach will be.

 

[dales804]

Mickey D is as good as gone.

So because Schwartz is the DC in CLE that means McDaniels is going to CLE? I don't understand why that would be I guess. Mcdaniels was, what, around 17 when BB was coaching the Browns?

 

[Brady6]

Obviously, most of would rather see McDaniels stay here, including myself. It's not written in stone that he's leaving just yet.

Assuming that he does move on though, I still think we'll be just fine. As many have pointed out, the system stays the same, and we have experienced coaches in our system in Daboll and O'Shea.

Yep and Daboll has OC experience.

I don’t think it is likely but there is probably a possibility that McDaniels would try and hirer Daboll or O'Shea as his offensive coordinator.

 

[Brady6]

So because Schwartz is the DC in CLE that means McDaniels is going to CLE? I don't understand why that would be I guess. Mcdaniels was, what, around 17 when BB was coaching the Browns?

I think the only reason that McDaniels wouldn’t end up as the head coach in Cleveland is if he declines the job. Lombardi has a hard on for Belichick and with O’Brien going to Houston I see McDaniels being offered the job as a 95% certainty at least in my opinion.

 

[fnordcircle]

If the Browns don't already have an agreement in place with their future HC and they're bringing in a DC before the coach that is really freaking weird.

Almost as weird as firing a coach after his first season.

 

[dales804]

If the Browns don't already have an agreement in place with their future HC and they're bringing in a DC before the coach that is really freaking weird.

Almost as weird as firing a coach after his first season.

It is the Browns. They don't usually have a good idea of what they're doing.

 

[varjao]

From what I've read the ball is in JMD hands, he decides.

It was the right thing to do to allow the Browns to interview him, you don't sabotage a job interview of any kind, let's just hope that both parts do that with work ethic, there's an ongoing season for NE so far. NFL needs to address this issue.

 

[SalemPats]

It is the Browns. They don't usually have a good idea of what they're doing.

Best quote of the thread

 

[supafly]

I don’t think it is likely but there is probably a possibility that McDaniels would try and hirer Daboll or O'Shea as his offensive coordinator.

I think anything is possible, but one could also assume that JMcD would even take over that role himself too, after all he's the offensive minded guru which is the prime reason why CLE even wants him. However your personal feeling is about his HC abilities and/or responsibility for draft set up out in DEN, the fact remains that after he started off hot in his first year, he promptly proceeded to then go 5-17 over the remainder of his time there. We'll have to see how much he's improved as an overall HC, as lots of coaches have struggled in their first gig.

As we know, Belichick often encourages coaches and players to test the open market to better their personal opportunities and families, but if McDaniels then turned around and attempted to take our potential OC replacement too---that may not go over very well in terms of their relationship, as it would be kind of a back stabbing move. As you said, he certainly could attempt to pry one or both of O'Shea or Daboll, and if that happened I'd assume that we'd be using the one he didn't take. Another thing to consider is that not everyone is going to want to run from a very stable position in N.England to the factory of sadness in Cleveland either, and that may even be true of McDaniels himself.

 

[supafly]

So because Schwartz is the DC in CLE that means McDaniels is going to CLE? I don't understand why that would be I guess. Mcdaniels was, what, around 17 when BB was coaching the Browns?

Yeah, I'm not understanding that logic either myself.

I suppose it's possible that Triumph was just giving us his opinion overall on the situation, and that didn't necessarily coincide with the quote that he was posting just the same.