Now Bill Polian takes a shot at the Patriots

[FCB02062]

Have the Patriots won a Super Bowl since Spygate? Just wondering????

 

[Kontradiction]

Damn, all that "I hate the Colts" feeling is coming flooding back at me. But I still have to root for them Sunday night.

The Colts hate never left me. I despise that team and their scumbag hick fanbase. I hope this game is violently physical.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Damn, all that "I hate the Colts" feeling is coming flooding back at me. But I still have to root for them Sunday night.

.......except it's not your Polian's Colt's anymore.

If anything, the should now actually be liked with Irsay admitting they were a soft team bent on making Manning....."Peyton".

BTW, what's up with the "Peyton" concept? It's like he's some idiot basketball player.

It's almost like Archie is the godfather and Mrs. Manning is a capo and every idiot "analyst" is too afraid to admit what's blatantly obvious.

 

[Koma]

Hah - -loved the way Bruschi teed off on Polian over the whole losing-on-purpose to avoid going at 16-0.

Something tells me Dungy is going to be even more unbearable on this subject Sunday night. For those of you who still watch that show.

It amazes me the Colts basically got a pass for intentionally losing a game to avoid being undefeated. The NFLN even included it in their top 10 gutsy calls show.

What makes the decision even harder to explain is that Indy played their starters the next week in a snow storm in Buffalo so they could attain some seasonal statistical records. Manning, Wayne and Clark could have reached those same milestones at home if they played the second half against the Jets on top of winning the game.

And the other negative fallout from the Colts tanking that game gave the Jets a chance to get into the playoffs that year.

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

This is exactly what I mean when I wrote that most of the NE fans (meant those living in NE) will dismiss it.

Irrespective of how petty he might be, he is the ex-GM of one of the highly respected teams in the NFL. So, his words and allegations do carry weight around the NFL and the non-Pats fans who read it.

If I was a non-pats fan, I might have treated the pot-shots of former players like Porter, Warner etc as jealous rants on acts that were done in the open.

But I think that this is the first time that a frigging GM throws dirt at us and I am mad because we have to bear it thanks to our silence in the past.

And of course, try to have your attitude - dismiss him as a crank and refuse to consider these smears.

Polian was known as a blow hard and a bully during his time in the league, and his statements come off as a childish attempt to deflect rather than actually defend his PO struggles. I'd actually guess that he's held in lower regard both by fans and NFL employees than the players you mentioned.

 

[sb1]

Maybe it's just me but I didn't read his comments that way at all. I mean it's not like he actually used the words "well unlike the Patriots we won fairly"...

 

[The_Riddler]

Not to mention the way the refs totally blew the 2006 AFCCG.

I'm not going to complain after 2001, but if I hear blowhards like Polian do it, I am going to say Colts were bailed out by:

1. Bogus OPI against Troy Brown at end of first half
2. Bogus faceguarding penalty against Ellis Hobbs--he didn't even make contact
3. Caldwell mauled in end zone and no call.

I mean, look at this:

2006 AFC Championship - NFL.com

Caldwell was mauled on that play.

The downright, BOGUS CALLS, this man and that team were the beneficiary of in the AFCCG game alone should make him tuck his tail between his legs and S.T.F.U....Period! I still burn with rage when I think back to those RCA Dome calls, even to this day.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

Maybe it's just me but I didn't read his comments that way at all. I mean it's not like he actually used the words "well unlike the Patriots we won fairly"...

What other "AFC power" that won "multiple Super Bowls" do you think he's referring to?

 

[Efstratios]

Mr Polian, if the "right way" to win a SB is to have season after season of one and dones (7 of them if I recall correctly?) and to win a lone ring simply because of of the inability of your opposition to get things done, then I'd honestly prefer the "wrong way" of going about winning these things.

 

[olschool]

If doing it the right way means changing the rules, pumping in crowd noise and turning up the temperature in the Dome then yeah, the Colts won the "right way".

Plus, deliberately tanking a season to get the number one pick.

No ethics at all, he should be banned from the NFL.

That being said, I don't think I'll live long enough to see Spygate forgotten.

It will be with us FOREVER.

 

[BigMike]

Does this boozeface "forget' he employed notorious signal stealer Howard Mudd? Talk about living in a glass gin bottle this guy....

 

[Ozymandias]

 

[tuckeverlasting]

what is this buffoon referencing ? the phoney walk thru tape rumor ? what a scumbag.

 

[sb1]

What other "AFC power" that won "multiple Super Bowls" do you think he's referring to?

He did say "honestly and fairly" but that other part was not a direct quote from him, and I can't find any transcript of the interview which shows it was.

 

[Deus Irae]

Once again, some douchebag gets to use the Patriots acquiescence to Goodell against them.

 

[FalconHeavy]

Well I blame Kraft for keeping his mouth shut and not defend what happened to his club and its reputation. Now every chance they get, they keep bringing this u.

you reap what you sow Mr Kraft...

seriously, our club, players, owner, coaches every single one needs to grow a pair and man up ...

 

[Jackson 2]

This is exactly what I mean when I wrote that most of the NE fans (meant those living in NE) will dismiss it.

Irrespective of how petty he might be, he is the ex-GM of one of the highly respected teams in the NFL. So, his words and allegations do carry weight around the NFL and the non-Pats fans who read it.

If I was a non-pats fan, I might have treated the pot-shots of former players like Porter, Warner etc as jealous rants on acts that were done in the open.

But I think that this is the first time that a frigging GM throws dirt at us and I am mad because we have to bear it thanks to our silence in the past.

And of course, try to have your attitude - dismiss him as a crank and refuse to consider these smears.

Largely spot on. But, I believe other coaches, GMs and execs believe it, also. Look at Harbaugh's comments last year about our tainted SB wins, which he then apologized for. I believe it's much more widespread than we sometimes think. And, as I've said before, when you don't defend yourself, people will come to a conclusion you probably won't like. I don't believe the Spygate BS, but millions do I believe because largely Kraft and the team let them. It's a tired topic, that will never completely go away, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Koma]

This is exactly what I mean when I wrote that most of the NE fans (meant those living in NE) will dismiss it.

Irrespective of how petty he might be, he is the ex-GM of one of the highly respected teams in the NFL. So, his words and allegations do carry weight around the NFL and the non-Pats fans who read it.

If I was a non-pats fan, I might have treated the pot-shots of former players like Porter, Warner etc as jealous rants on acts that were done in the open.

But I think that this is the first time that a frigging GM throws dirt at us and I am mad because we have to bear it thanks to our silence in the past.

And of course, try to have your attitude - dismiss him as a crank and refuse to consider these smears.

Regarding Polian's status as a successful former GM and the weight it carries, does anyone remember the story from last year about the Saints GM allegedly tapping into the opposing team's coachin booth to sideline communications?

Polian was one of the first of ESPN's experts to weigh on the matter and he said listening on those conversations would be of little value to a team. That became the main reaction to the story (which was never verified): Eavesdropping on the private communications between the coaches on the sideline and the coaches in the booth wouldn't help a team very much.

All the people that thought taping defensive coaching signals given in front of the opposing team, the crowd, and the TV cameras was the worst scandal ever and the sole reason for the Patriots success took Polian's version as gospel and downplayed the whole thing.

Obviously, the eavesdropping story never being proved true is significant, but even when it was still being investigated, Polian was quick to dismiss it as a minor issue.

 

[SVN]

I hope he says this with Tedy on the set of their studios. Someone should ask tedy in his chat next time

 

[PatsSox363804]

Regarding Polian's status as a successful former GM and the weight it carries, does anyone remember the story from last year about the Saints GM allegedly tapping into the opposing team's coachin booth to sideline communications?

Polian was one of the first of ESPN's experts to weigh on the matter and he said listening on those conversations would be of little value to a team. That became the main reaction to the story (which was never verified): Eavesdropping on the private communications between the coaches on the sideline and the coaches in the booth wouldn't help a team very much.

All the people that thought taping defensive coaching signals given in front of the opposing team, the crowd, and the TV cameras was the worst scandal ever and the sole reason for the Patriots success took Polian's version as gospel and downplayed the whole thing.

Obviously, the eavesdropping story never being proved true is significant, but even when it was still being investigated, Polian was quick to dismiss it as a minor issue.

It's honestly not even worth arguing about with people. Most of them don't even know what the hell they're talking about and say things like the Patriots taped practices or they quote that angry Steeler fan who wrote the Spygate book as if he's speaking from fact instead of opinion. A common one I've heard lately is that the Patriots have a second radio frequency at Foxboro, which is absurd, but that's what people want to believe and I'm not changing their opinion nor is Kraft going to come out swinging 6 years later so meh, it is what it is. I've seen my team play in 7 Superbowls and win 3. Few other fans can say that and no amount of butt hurt whining is going to take those 3 titles away so **** 'em.