Is Develin hurting the running game, and the offense overall?

[supafly]

I suppose it's possible that they just kept him around until Gronk gets healthy. We'll have to see what happens. I agree that I am skeptical so far about having him on the roster.

 

[Ozymandias]

Based on his play alone, Develin is a scrub and shouldn't be on an NFL roster.

The Patriots obviously have ulterior motives for keeping him afloat - whether they be injury related or gameplan related remains to be seen.

I expect him to be cut by week 4 at the latest.

 

[Brady6]

What a fine balanced offense, three OT's on the field.

Obviously, it a MAJOR error on the part of the front office to have only ONE qualified blocker on the team: Gronkowski. That situation simply doesn't work in this year;s NFL.

Solder has played reps at TE (29 I think in the 2 days). That is not the issue. Perhaps we should play 3 WR, plus our best TE (Solder). Belichick is not ready for this.

I am amazed to think that we now consider Cannon so great a LT that we would Solder and play him at TE. Seriously, we reduce our running game efficiency by losing Solder at LT, and replace him with Cannon.

Cannon has moved from a backup, to our best starting OG (delusions of some) and now good enough to replace a healthy Solder at LT.

I'm just not buying.

You celebrate our consistent vanilla defense, with almost no substitutions, and you want to to take one of best LT's in the NFL and make him a TE? I'm confused.

Perhaps, we might find an acceptable blocking TE somewhere. I am absolutely appalled that we ahve ZERO acceptable blocking TE's.

Just BTW, when gronkowski comes back, he will need to be a blocker. He will have little bandwidth to be a top receiver.

•I think you confused I would rather, with I would like to MG. I do not want to use Develin or Solder at fullback or tight-end, however if left with no choice but to choose one of them I would favor Solder at tight-end over Develin in any role.

•As far as Cannon being at left-tackle and Solder being at tight-end if lined up in that formation 9 times out of 10 you’d be running the football so yes I would think having Solder, Vollmer and Cannon all on the field would be far more effective than Develin, how we’d reduce the running game by moving Solder to tight-end and inserting Cannon is beyond my scope of understanding, especially being that we generally run over the right side to Vollmer and the tight-end (Solder in this case) which would actually put Solder into the play more rather than just protecting the backend at left-tackle. In addition I would not be so quick to conclude Solder is a better run blocker than Cannon, Solder is an excellent tackle in both the pass and run which is what makes him elite, however Cannon is actually a bigger more powerful guy which could make him more impactful on a running play.

 

[SVN]

Develin looks pretty bad but Hooman is absolutely dreadful, just a god awful blocker.

I think hooman is on this team just for his name so opponents waste some precious time reciting his name when watching film.

 

[Canuck]

•I think you confused I would rather, with I would like to MG. I do not want to use Develin or Solder at fullback or tight-end, however if left with no choice but to choose one of them I would favor Solder at tight-end over Develin in any role.

•As far as Cannon being at left-tackle and Solder being at tight-end if lined up in that formation 9 times out of 10 you’d be running the football so yes I would think having Solder, Vollmer and Cannon all on the field would be far more effective than Develin, how we’d reduce the running game by moving Solder to tight-end and inserting Cannon is beyond my scope of understanding, especially being that we generally run over the right side to Vollmer and the tight-end (Solder in this case) which would actually put Solder into the play more rather than just protecting the backend at left-tackle. In addition I would not be so quick to conclude Solder is a better run blocker than Cannon, Solder is an excellent tackle in both the pass and run which is what makes him elite, however Cannon is actually a bigger more powerful guy which could make him more impactful on a running play.

Previously before he took over the tackle position full time, Solder was used as a blocking TE on some plays. So he is already familiar with what to do. So right now he is the best option until Gronk and Sudfield get back and Mulligan gets up to speed.

Really, you got to kind of have to admire Bill on how he handles injuries and still field a competitive team. What other team would even think of using their left tackle as a TE.

 

[patsfan-1982]

Previously before he took over the tackle position full time, Solder was used as a blocking TE on some plays. So he is already familiar with what to do. So right now he is the best option until Gronk and Sudfield get back and Mulligan gets up to speed.

Really, you got to kind of have to admire Bill on how he handles injuries and still field a competitive team. What other team would even think of using their left tackle as a TE.

that's because they had a pro bowler in Matt Light at LT so they used Solder he's Rookie season at TE to max protect, if they try that now they will get Brady killed

 

[Canuck]

What I don't understand is if you wanted a player capable of playing fullback, inline tight end and flex tight end why the heck did we cut Daniel Fells who could do all of those things, he has good size at 6'4 252 pounds, he is a very good blocker, a crisp route runner with a solid set of hands and he has experience lining up at fullback which he did a lot of during his time with the Rams. In fact many analysis said he was a better fit for fullback when he first signed here last season.

I admit I wasn't high on Fells in the preseason mainly because I thought we had more in Sudfeld and Ballard, added to my doubting we'd retain a fullback, now that I see Develin, Mulligan and Hooman on the 53 man roster I'm about to start a ******* petition and picketing outside of Gillette with a sign that says "sign Daniel Fells".

I think Fells was injured (concussion?) He was let go as to not tie up a valuable roster spot. I think the plan (just a guess really, without knowing the extent of the injury) was to bring him back when he was well. Washington is kind of the same deal. Let go until his injury cleared up and use Blount as the KR. But a couple of other teams looked like they were interested in signing Washington so Bill had to resign him.

Just another example of how Bill expands the 53 man roster by using his so called shadow roster to his advantage.

 

[supafly]

that's because they had a pro bowler in Matt Light at LT so they used Solder he's Rookie season at TE to max protect, if they try that now they will get Brady killed

????

Nate Solder played TE on Thursday night on about 30% of the total offensive snaps, with Cannon playing left tackle.

 

[Canuck]

????

Nate Solder played TE on Thursday night on about 30% of the total offensive snaps, with Cannon playing left tackle.

Just curious, does anybody know if Solder was used at the TE position on passing downs in a protection scheme? I don't remember Cannon being used to pass protect at LT. If so he did a good job because I don't remember his name even being mentioned.

 

[patsfan-1982]

????

Nate Solder played TE on Thursday night on about 30% of the total offensive snaps, with Cannon playing left tackle.

I guess I was not paying close a nuff attention

 

[Wilfork#75]

While it may not help us this year, there is a kid playing for Oklahoma that I absolutely love! His name is Trey Millard and he is Oklahoma's best player, period. He is an excellent lead blocking fullback, he can run the ball, catch it out of the backfield, block at the line and he is also their best special teams player. He is the most versatile player in college football and I think he could be the same in the NFL. While nobody can replace Hernandez, I think Millard could fill a number of the same roles and even more. He is a hybrid FB/RB/HB/TE/STer that could be a beast in this offense.

Trey Millard*|*Oklahoma,*FB*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

He had a pretty good game against Texas last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbv5aihfbrU


Here he is as a single back taking it 61 yards to the house against Kansas State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpCXM7UcLnQ

 

[captain stone]

Previously before he took over the tackle position full time, Solder was used as a blocking TE on some plays. So he is already familiar with what to do. So right now he is the best option until Gronk and Sudfield get back and Mulligan gets up to speed...

Mulligan wouldn't get up to speed even if he used the Starship Enterprise.

To replace Develin, Bill should sign Michael Robinson, Jacob Hester, Spencer Larsen or
Chris Gronk;

To replace Mulligan, he should (re-)sign Fells, David Thomas, Dorin ****erson, Richard Quinn
or Dan Gronk.

 

[Kontradiction]

Mulligan wouldn't get up to speed even if he used the Starship Enterprise.

To replace Develin, Bill should sign Michael Robinson, Jacob Hester, Spencer Larsen or
Chris Gronk;

To replace Mulligan, he should (re-)sign Fells, David Thomas, Dorin ****erson, Richard Quinn
or Dan Gronk.

David Thomas would be an interesting re-signing out of that group for the short term (provided he doesn't blow another game against Indy for us with a bonehead penalty near the end of regulation).

 

[shmessy]

Mulligan wouldn't get up to speed even if he used the Starship Enterprise.

To replace Develin, Bill should sign Michael Robinson, Jacob Hester, Spencer Larsen or
Chris Gronk;

To replace Mulligan, he should (re-)sign Fells, David Thomas, Dorin ****erson, Richard Quinn
or Dan Gronk.

Our 3 TE's could all be Gronks.

I smell reality show!!!!!!!