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Likely Receiving core: What do you think?

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Talk to Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston. He says we need a deep threat. I say we need a deep threat.

Do you agree, Andy Johnson.

Hey, Andy, I have a question for you. I wrestled with your nephew in Michigan. It was great. You were my favorite player.

Why did you take your glove off in cold weather games when you were going to do a halfback pass? Didn't you realize how blatantly obvious that was?
 
Ever heard of denial? You're in denial. Ever heard of rationalization? You're rationalizing. Ever heard of "retroactive regression"? It's a cool little phrase denoting those whose biased knowledge interferes with evaluating the present. I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point.

We. Haven't. Won. A. SB. in. Eight. Years.

Are you okay with that, when we have the best QB who has ever played the game--by far, I might add--with a rapidly diminishing window of opportunity?


Ever hear of arrogance? I didn't think so.

Ever hear of humility? I didn't think so.

Your math skills are admirable, you are right they haven't won a SB in 8 years.

Yes, we are all thrilled they haven't won a SB in 8 years, in fact most of us hope they never win one again, we just want some more records. Thank God someone who really cares has shown up to show us the righteous path to success. And not just any "someone" but a someone who knows mare than anyone else about football. It's like Christmas in April.
 
Talk to Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston. He says we need a deep threat. I say we need a deep threat.

Do you agree, Andy Johnson.

Hey, Andy, I have a question for you. I wrestled with your nephew in Michigan. It was great. You were my favorite player.

Why did you take your glove off in cold weather games when you were going to do a halfback pass? Didn't you realize how blatantly obvious that was?

You realize that most 6 year olds also know how to use google now, right?
 
Talk to Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston. He says we need a deep threat. I say we need a deep threat.

I wil be talking with Mike tomorrow, i'll let you know. Then i am going to go ask Belichick what he is going to do in the draft, I expect specifics, again, I will get back to you. I had to ask him why Jax has never seen him using the draft value sheet on draft days so it's not like i will be going out of my way.
 
Talk to Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston. He says we need a deep threat. I say we need a deep threat.
Mike Reiss is a REPORTER not a football analyst.

Do you agree, Andy Johnson.
Not at the expense of having receivers on the field who's strengths fit the offense we run.

Hey, Andy, I have a question for you. I wrestled with your nephew in Michigan. It was great. You were my favorite player.

Why did you take your glove off in cold weather games when you were going to do a halfback pass? Didn't you realize how blatantly obvious that was?
Must not have been too much of one if you look at the results.
Another anecdotal thought being used as a fact I see.
 
Talk to Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston.


you know, when Mike and i were talking the other day he said that Tavon Wilson is a better pick than Jerel Worthy. In fact, i believe the words he used for wrthy were "he sucks....."
 
You're correct. We don't need 4 starting receivers. We need an flanker, a split end, a slot receiver and a backup. Edelman is the backup. Amedola is our slot receiver. Edelman is our backup, especially in the slot. These guys might do damage downfield on a regular basis, or not.

We'll see if Sanders is on the team. Having Sanders and Jones going downfield in 3 wide receiver sets is not great. But we still have the rest of free agency and the draft to acquire players.

Cousins. I don't think Tomlin let's Sanders go because Big Ben is whining and gives his highness a built in excuse for 2013. So let us review.

All you BB "let's get a WR in the Draft" Cousins. BB has went bto the WR draft 8 times since 2002 (eleven years) and has struck out (ok Edelman as a QB convert). It's reasonable for him to trade or pick up a FA because WR and CB's (Dennard might work but even McCourty was shaky after a first good year and I certainly would not want him as my starting CB now) are not his forte. If you can't hit a curve ball, quit trying and use patience and wait for the fast ball.

One of BB's favorite Draft trading partners is now the coach at K.C.. I have a possible angle. Until 2011 and Reid's death knell in Philly last year, those two traded 10 strait years. Trades amount to trust.

"A salary-cap move!" Philly coach Andy Reid joked on Saturday night. The truth is, Reid and Belichick had made a deal with each other for 10 straight years (not restricted to the draft), and here it was, the sixth round, and they hadn't made one yet. So they got on the phone and Reid said, "Listen, our streak is in trouble." Here came the no-harm, no-foul deal. Both took linebackers whom the other team wouldn't have picked—Philly drafted Ohio State's Brian Rolle, and New England picked Markell Carter from Central Arkansas. Who said Reid and Belichick are always serious?

K.C. Can use an OLB/DE for their 3-4. Where as Germaine Cunningham was a second round reach that BB tried before switching back to a 4-3, it appears he is on his last legs here. He is a FA in 2014 and his salary this year is $630,000.

Jonathan Baldwin was the Chiefs late first rounder in 2011. He is a disappointment and lingers behind Bowe. His 2013 salary is $1,061,510. At 6'4" and 228lbs with 4.5 speed and a 42" vert., this is the same guy that BB advised Thomas Dimitroff of the Falcons to pick over Julio Jones with supposedly the same skill set, so they did not have to trade down the 6th. Unfortunately BB couldn't pick a WR for the Falcons either .....but.....We know BB has had his eye on Baldwin at some point in time.

It is fair to say Baldwin has not lived up to late first round expectations. The book on him from RAC and Pioli is a phone call away.

I think it would be fair to say that Cunningham has not lived up to his mid second round expectations although he did more in 2012 to maybe create interest in a trade. He is still young and more of a 3-4 type player. With the roster additions so far in 2103, Cunningham could be odd man out here. K.C. plays a 3-4. He could make sense for them and his salary numbers are low.

If Baldwin can be straightened out perhaps by a winning locker room and having TB pitching at him, perhaps his career is revived.

There could be a starting WR with potential and a believed first round talent.
"Wes Bunting of the NFP noted that several scouts he talked to love Baldwin's talent"

Can he get his act together?

Thoughts?
DW Toys

P.S. Anyone think that Titus Young has had some therapy and has realized the NFL can set the rest of his life up financially? Is the fact that Fisher who is no nonsense sent him packing and he now gets it that anyone signing him is now his last strike? Would the Pats dare take a shot at him when he is poison as was Randy Moss in 2007? Most had Moss finished and too much of a locker room killer and BB got three superb years in total out of Moss. I think you can pay Young ball boy prices to get him to try his last shot. His leash would be as short as his ripa rapper before...see ya!

Thoughts there as well?
 
Not being able to cover Dallas Clark eventually did the Pats in. The point stands that they were one score away from winning and couldn't do it. Then they got the ball back to win with the last drive and Brady threw a pick because he had to force it to Troy Brown due to the fact that nobody else was open.

O.K. here is a thought. We don't know about Gronk. Ballard is still recovering. You mentioned him,
Dallas Clark? 47 receptions for the not great passing Tamp Bay Bucs. 4TDs. He gets open and caught 62% of the targets his way. At 34 he is a band aid, but rather have him any day than bringing back Lloyd who ran himself out of town or Fells or Hous! No contest. Can't see TB not using Clark to his fullest. I think Clark would be a great back up for Hernandez and a competent guy in the slot to eat up some of Welker's lost catches if DA is put outside. He should be cheap and productive for a year. If he caught 47 at Tampa Bay I am confident maybe 60 here.
DW Toys
 
And not just any "someone" but a someone who knows mare than anyone else about football. It's like Christmas in April.
Thanks for your input, Ivan. I value it very much.

Tonight will be very interesting to see if the Steelers--who have won two SB's since we last won our ours even though they have never been as good either year--re-sign Emmanuel Sanders.

This is a very deft Belichich move. I hope we get him, since he will prove more effective than any third-rounder we could draft at the same position.

And it's funny, I just heard a mare neighing for her hay this evening.
 
Thanks for your input, Ivan. I value it very much.

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As I do yours, having someone who is omnipotent posting here is a true blessing. I have no doubt you can give Captain Stone a real run for his money when it comes to redrafting 2 years after the fact.
 
And it's funny, I just heard a mare neighing for her hay this evening.



I'm surprised you were able to hear it over the sheep's bleatings. Good pick-up on the typo however, it will only add to the legend you have growing inside your head.
 
now that the sanders idea is gone..the receiving core even with a rookie is a downgrade from last year. I see Amendola getting hurt and missing a few games as usual and if that is the case we could be in trouble.

Now there aren't many options out there i get that so there is not much they can do anymore..but to field those WRs with Brady only having 3 years left...just not a fan. We will see
 
now that the sanders idea is gone..the receiving core even with a rookie is a downgrade from last year. I see Amendola getting hurt and missing a few games as usual and if that is the case we could be in trouble.

Now there aren't many options out there i get that so there is not much they can do anymore..but to field those WRs with Brady only having 3 years left...just not a fan. We will see

OK, serious crisis at the WR spot this season.

Maybe they'll turn to a smashmouth approach along the ground .... in 3 TE sets.
 
Would like to seem them take a run at D.Alexander now, but I doubt they will.
 
Seeing as the other thread is now closed, I'll reply here:

I'd take Hopkins all day over Allen.

Amen brother - Hopkins is about as perfect as you can get where we're concerned. Supreme routes, superb hands, quick twitch, terrific coverage recognition. He's been at the top of my WR rankings for a long time.

If he's not there though, I trade out of #29 and take Aaron Dobson or Quinton Patton in the second. Maybe a speedster like Cobi Hamilton in the third or fourth (if we can pick up a fourth round pick from somewhere).

Hopkins - Hamilton - Amendola - Jones - Edelman - Gronk - Hernandez.

Dobson - Wheaton - Amendola - Jones - Edelman - Gronk - Hernandez.

Brady's had much much worse to contend with.
 
Would like to seem them take a run at D.Alexander now, but I doubt they will.

The fact the other 31 teams aren't speaks volumes about Alexander.
 
I do think that Edelman is an adequate backup for Amendola.

The weaknesses are Jones and Jenkins.

now that the sanders idea is gone..the receiving core even with a rookie is a downgrade from last year. I see Amendola getting hurt and missing a few games as usual and if that is the case we could be in trouble.

Now there aren't many options out there i get that so there is not much they can do anymore..but to field those WRs with Brady only having 3 years left...just not a fan. We will see
 
This team currently has one starting WR, and he can't stay on the field.
 
Seeing as the other thread is now closed, I'll reply here:



Amen brother - Hopkins is about as perfect as you can get where we're concerned. Supreme routes, superb hands, quick twitch, terrific coverage recognition. He's been at the top of my WR rankings for a long time.

If he's not there though, I trade out of #29 and take Aaron Dobson or Quinton Patton in the second. Maybe a speedster like Cobi Hamilton in the third or fourth (if we can pick up a fourth round pick from somewhere).

Hopkins - Hamilton - Amendola - Jones - Edelman - Gronk - Hernandez.

Dobson - Wheaton - Amendola - Jones - Edelman - Gronk - Hernandez.

Brady's had much much worse to contend with.

Not sure about Hamilton. Give me Hopkins and Dobson.
 
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