Dan Shaughnessy- gives uninformed Texans fans posting material ...UGH

[longhornsk57]

Perhaps it implies that you're actually from Wisconsin??

'Sall right, Brother Horn: You can confide in me.

Blasphemy!!

Born and raised in Houston. There's only one good thing to ever come out of Wisconsin, and he got his ass to Texas where he belongs!

 

[RayClay]

Re: Texans' Arian Foster uses Dan Shaughnessy column for Twitter avatar

So would Rodney's coach:

Belichick Pre-Game Super Bowl XXXIX Speech - YouTube

And, all teams plan their parade routes in advance anyway. Hmmm. Was he grasping at straws?

I sometimes wonder if posters have actually followed this team, or do they have amnesia?

 

[RayClay]

Foster is just having fun with it, I guarantee he's not mad or really cares what some fraud "journalist" says just to get some more twitter followers and his 15 minutes of fame. If the Texans need that idiot's comments as bulletin board material then this game is already lost.

We're either going to lose or we're not, but this guy's obvious attempt to just stir the pot is laughable, and apparently is sadly working. Just hand anyone with low self confidence a computer or a mic and you can be sure moronic comments like this will spew forth.

Just looking forward to the game. If the Pats win, it's not because the Texans are "frauds," whatever that even means, but because the Pats are a great football team. He is actually showing a lot of disrespect to the Pats franchise by posting sophomoric stuff like this.

If I were one of the Patriots I would probably tweet at him to shut his mouth.

Oh yeah? Well I think it's a lack of respect to put that on his twitter site, and so does Vince Wilfork!


Se ya Sunday.

 

[longhornsk57]

Oh yeah? Well I think it's a lack of respect to put that on his twitter site, and so does Vince Wilfork!


Se ya Sunday.

I'm confused. Vince Wilfork thinks it's disrespectful for Foster to put something one of your writers said on his twitter avatar?

 

[RayClay]

I'm confused. Vince Wilfork thinks it's disrespectful for Foster to put something one of your writers said on his twitter avatar?

And someone told him Schaub said something about his mama.

Unconfirmed yet...

your writers?

What? This is the biggest A hole in this town, haven't you read the thread? An actual local football beat writer was making fun of him on video. Shank has never been a football beat writer. He's a clown.

Also, after the last game, i don't think your players can afford to spend time on twitter, especially Foster.

15-46 3.1. ouch.

 

[BradyFTW!]

"A Patriots centric sportswriter...."

The mere act of you writing that term shows your basic misunderstanding of the actual situation and what is at work there.

It is something that has been at work for over 15 years.

Anyone who knows the history of this "journalist" knows he wants to set the Patriots and the Kraft family up for the biggest negative financial fallout possible when the winning years are over. Shaughnessy and The Globe are out for a HARD LANDING for the business in Foxboro. it is all about economics. Those who don't want to pay attention can remain lemmings.

If you don't know the motivation of a writer (after being shown the ample history and evidence) and continue to close your eyes and make blind statements, then that is your choice.

Now read closely, because here is the CORE to this whole matter that most (Shaughnessy hopes) miss:
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Shaughnessy doesn't give a whit how and whether this affects the Texans. He is merely attempting to mold New England fans' opinions to cause the greatest amount of overconfidence and thereby (someday) mass economic fallout when the winning stops. The moment it dawns that his writings are NOT aimed at the players but at the regional economic market is when the lightbulb will light up for you.

Money makes the world go round.

Shaughnessy counts on the readership to remain malleable fodder.


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He also writes mostly about the Red Sox, and there's no group of people who hate the Patriots more than those who rely on the Sox to stay relevant. There was a time when the Sox were relevant 12 months per year, and that made goobers like Shaughnessy quasi-sorta-almost relevant year-round as well. Now, the Patriots have swept the Sox aside and made them basically irrelevant for 4-6 months per year. And for the other 6 months, the Sox are an exercise in futility to watch, as they alternate between sucking, throwing each other under the bus, and lying to their fans about how bright their future is.

Shaughnessy hates the Pats because they've made him and his ilk completely irrelevant.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'm confused. Vince Wilfork thinks it's disrespectful for Foster to put something one of your writers said on his twitter avatar?

Dan Shaughnessy is not one of "our writers". We hate the guy even more than you do, and I'm willing to bet that everyone in the Pats organization has even less patience for him than any of us. You nailed it in your original post - the article was disrespectful to both the Pats and the Texans. Whoever wins on Sunday will have beaten a very good football team, and the Patriots all know that.

 

[longhornsk57]

And someone told him Schaub said something about his mama.

Unconfirmed yet...



What? This is the biggest A hole in this town, haven't you read the thread? An actual local football beat writer was making fun of him on video. Shank has never been a football beat writer. He's a clown.

Also, after the last game, i don't think your players can afford to spend time on twitter, especially Foster.

15-46 3.1. ouch.

I doubt Arian Foster spending time on twitter is realistically going to affect his performance.

We all know the Texans lost the match up last time, saying "ouch" as if it didn't happen a month ago is rather comical. I see you trying to bait and get some acrimony going but you're going to have to try a bit harder than that.

 

[longhornsk57]

Dan Shaughnessy is not one of "our writers". We hate the guy even more than you do, and I'm willing to bet that everyone in the Pats organization has even less patience for him than any of us do. You nailed it in your original post - the article was disrespectful to both the Pats and the Texans. Whoever wins on Sunday will have beaten a very good football team, and the Patriots all know that.

That's why I said you'd think the Pats would even tell this guy to shut his mouth.

 

[BradyFTW!]

That's why I said you'd think the Pats would even tell this guy to shut his mouth.

I'm sure they have, and he doesn't care. It's not like the Patriots can realistically threaten him with anything - he doesn't have any access or sources to lose; I'm pretty sure the Pats would never knowingly let him within 20 miles of the stadium. There's a weird dynamic with the Boston sports media, which I don't expect that you'd know of coming into this, being that you're not from this market (just like I don't know of whatever quirks Houston has).

Anyway, the long and short of it is that Dan Shaughnessy doesn't write about the Patriots. He doesn't know anything about football, and doesn't care. Tom Curran (an actual Patriots beat writer with actual connections in the organization) was harping on exactly that when he responded by saying that Shaughnessy couldn't name 5 Texans, and couldn't name 10 Patriots either. The average poster on this forum knows more about the Patriots than Dan Shaughnessy does.

Shaughnessy is a baseball writer, and a spectacularly bad one at that. He's the guy who invented the "Curse of the Bambino", since it helped him sell books. He's just awful. I've literally never met anyone who doesn't abjectly hate the guy, which makes me wonder how he manages to keep such a high profile, to be honest.

The regional dynamic that I mentioned earlier is that, in general, baseball writers around here hate the Patriots. They hate them because Boston used to be a baseball town, so they used to be the #1 sports 'journalists' around, and were relevant year-round. Ever since Kraft took over the Pats, though, they've become a well-run, quality organization (in stark contrast to the Red Sox), and that fact, combined with the fact that football is simply better and more interesting than baseball, has combined to turn Boston into a football town.

Some people will dispute that, but the numbers don't lie. The Patriots own New England, and have for some time now. Assclowns like Dan Shaughnessy can't quite come to terms with the fact that they're now considered second-rate on the local scene, and as a result you see a ton of garbage like this published about the Pats through obsolete, dying outlets like the Globe and the Herald. When things are going even slightly badly, they pile on and write Belichick's obituary. When things are going well enough that they can't realistically do that, they write crap like this article so that, in the event that the Texans do beat the Patriots, they can pile on extra hard.

 

[Timbo717]

He's an @%^ but I wouldn't worry about it affecting the game or even the Texans players at all. They have plenty of reason to be motivated. Saying this provides meaningful motivation to them is like pretending eating the fortune cookie is what makes you feel full after polishing off a pupu platter by yourself.

 

[goheels22002]

I'm confused. Vince Wilfork thinks it's disrespectful for Foster to put something one of your writers said on his twitter avatar?

That's the first time anyone called Dan Shaghnessy a "writer." How nice of you.

 

[shmessy]

That's why I said you'd think the Pats would even tell this guy to shut his mouth.

You're ignorantly assuming the two parties have a speaking relationship.

If you read Post #132 or #150 you'd understand just how foolish that assumption is.

 

[Steve102]

I'm sure they have, and he doesn't care. It's not like the Patriots can realistically threaten him with anything - he doesn't have any access or sources to lose; I'm pretty sure the Pats would never knowingly let him within 20 miles of the stadium. There's a weird dynamic with the Boston sports media, which I don't expect that you'd know of coming into this, being that you're not from this market (just like I don't know of whatever quirks Houston has).

Anyway, the long and short of it is that Dan Shaughnessy doesn't write about the Patriots. He doesn't know anything about football, and doesn't care. Tom Curran (an actual Patriots beat writer with actual connections in the organization) was harping on exactly that when he responded by saying that Shaughnessy couldn't name 5 Texans, and couldn't name 10 Patriots either. The average poster on this forum knows more about the Patriots than Dan Shaughnessy does.

Shaughnessy is a baseball writer, and a spectacularly bad one at that. He's the guy who invented the "Curse of the Bambino", since it helped him sell books. He's just awful. I've literally never met anyone who doesn't abjectly hate the guy, which makes me wonder how he manages to keep such a high profile, to be honest.

The regional dynamic that I mentioned earlier is that, in general, baseball writers around here hate the Patriots. They hate them because Boston used to be a baseball town, so they used to be the #1 sports 'journalists' around, and were relevant year-round. Ever since Kraft took over the Pats, though, they've become a well-run, quality organization (in stark contrast to the Red Sox), and that fact, combined with the fact that football is simply better and more interesting than baseball, has combined to turn Boston into a football town.

Some people will dispute that, but the numbers don't lie. The Patriots own New England, and have for some time now. Assclowns like Dan Shaughnessy can't quite come to terms with the fact that they're now considered second-rate on the local scene, and as a result you see a ton of garbage like this published about the Pats through obsolete, dying outlets like the Globe and the Herald. When things are going even slightly badly, they pile on and write Belichick's obituary. When things are going well enough that they can't realistically do that, they write crap like this article so that, in the event that the Texans do beat the Patriots, they can pile on extra hard.

Well said.

Senator, I defer any remaining posts on this thread I may write to my esteemed colleague BradyFTW!

 

[BAM!]

He's an @%^ but I wouldn't worry about it affecting the game or even the Texans players at all. They have plenty of reason to be motivated. Saying this provides meaningful motivation to them is like pretending eating the fortune cookie is what makes you feel full after polishing off a pupu platter by yourself.

Just an FYI... not that I actually think that it will change the outcome of the game necessarily. Only that I belive this is exactly what the OP was referring too... the team goes to unbelieveable lengths to make sure that they don't provide "bulletin board material" and then you have a hack like Shaugnessy providing it anyways.

"Arian Foster has taken the concept of bulletin board material into the digital age.

The Houston Texans running back made his profile picture on Twitter a screen shot of a highly critical excerpt from a column by Boston Globe columnist Dan Shaughnessy."

Arian Foster of Houston Texans changes Twitter picture to column excerpt - ESPN

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

"A Patriots centric sportswriter...."

The mere act of you writing that term shows your basic misunderstanding of the actual situation and what is at work there.

It is something that has been at work for over 15 years.

Anyone who knows the history of this "journalist" knows he wants to set the Patriots and the Kraft family up for the biggest negative financial fallout possible when the winning years are over. Shaughnessy and The Globe are out for a HARD LANDING for the business in Foxboro. it is all about economics. Those who don't want to pay attention can remain lemmings.

If you don't know the motivation of a writer (after being shown the ample history and evidence) and continue to close your eyes and make blind statements, then that is your choice.

Now read closely, because here is the CORE to this whole matter that most (Shaughnessy hopes) miss:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Shaughnessy doesn't give a whit how and whether this affects the Texans. He is merely attempting to mold New England fans' opinions to cause the greatest amount of overconfidence and thereby (someday) mass economic fallout when the winning stops. The moment it dawns that his writings are NOT aimed at the players but at the regional economic market is when the lightbulb will light up for you.

Money makes the world go round.

Shaughnessy counts on the readership to remain malleable fodder.


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Shmessy, reach for the decaf and remove the tinfoil hat before writing.
"Patriots centric sportswriter" = a writer employed by a media outlet to pen columns regarding the Patriots of the NFL.
Motivation for the column is irrelevant, the description applies. Now if you want to argue what skills it takes to be a sports writer? There will be common ground.

occam's razor (interpreted): The simplest explanation is probably right.
Explanation 1: CHB has written his column with a 'Lois Einhorn-Ray Finkle out to eventually get even with Dan Marino' diabolical plot to aid in financially ruining the Kraft family who he and his company blames for ruining the Red Sox (Shout out to Ace Ventura).
Explanation 2: He is a blowhard ***hat who penned an attention grabbing column. Just about every rabid sports town has their blowhard ***hats who write biting, attention grabbing columns to sell advertising at a higher rate for their employer which eventually leads to their own greater financial success (regardless of their personal like/dislike of the team's owner).

Apply the above interpreted version of occam's razor.

So let's examine the content for obvious lies/inaccuracies: Is what he wrote baseless (regardless of his motivation and his use of exaggerated wording)? While us fans rehash the Monday night win and find ways to see how this Sunday's game will be much closer and the Texans are a formidable difficult team to beat (myself included), the cold hard reality is the Texans haven't really played to a level in some weeks that would be good enough to beat a Patriots team in Foxboro that plays up to their normal standards. Sorry for the disrespect to Texans fans but that just is reality. The Texans are a team that said they are playing the game of their franchise just several weeks ago and got embarrassingly walloped! A couple weeks later this a team that went into Indy with TONS riding on the game (another franchise game?) and got not so difficultly bested by an Indy team that, IMHO, would also have little chance of beating the Patriots in Foxboro this Sunday. This is a team last week that was playing, at home, arguably the worst team in the entire NFL playoff field where the QB had something like 40 yards of passing at halftime and didn't successfully convert a single third down -- and they beat them by 6 points where I don't think they lead by more than a TD beyond a few minutes.
But hey, maybe CHB is an evil genius. He has used the truth to set up a no lose situation for himself. They Patriots beat the Texans and he was right! If they lose to the Texans it furthers the diabolical plot. Damn, CHB is smarter than I gave him credit for....

But here is some bad news for you, his/their diabolical plot has succeeded before it was let out of the barn. Why? Fans/the fickle nature of the human condition already have it 95% covered for him/them. Look around and see how the fervor for a team plummets if they field losing teams. Yet pass the word onto Bob Kraft about the diabolical plot (if he doesn't already know). I'm sure CHB and his gang of mentally giant conspirators will keep Bob Kraft up at night
(fyi, all columnists rely on readers)

 

[Chopblock CB]

Foster is just having fun with it, I guarantee he's not mad or really cares what some fraud "journalist" says just to get some more twitter followers and his 15 minutes of fame. If the Texans need that idiot's comments as bulletin board material then this game is already lost.

We're either going to lose or we're not, but this guy's obvious attempt to just stir the pot is laughable, and apparently is sadly working. Just hand anyone with low self confidence a computer or a mic and you can be sure moronic comments like this will spew forth.

Just looking forward to the game. If the Pats win, it's not because the Texans are "frauds," whatever that even means, but because the Pats are a great football team. He is actually showing a lot of disrespect to the Pats franchise by posting sophomoric stuff like this.

If I were one of the Patriots I would probably tweet at him to shut his mouth.

You better tell your compadres over on your Texans Board that which you say here cuz they have swallowed it hook line and sinker and are runnin' with it til the cows come home!!!.His Fraud reference is to the 11-1 Texans coming into Foxboro..getting whooped on National TV then losing most of their games in the month of December.....

 

[cmasspatsfan]

You guys with the conspiracy theories are nuttier than Shank, he writes columns like this to generate chatter and hes done that in spades, we'd all be better off if we just didnt read it or if you did read it toss the paper in the trash and never mention that you actually did read it.

 

[Joker]

Occam's razor??????????????????

(I'm an epistemologist myself......)

 

[ausbacker]

You guys with the conspiracy theories are nuttier than Shank, he writes columns like this to generate chatter and hes done that in spades, we'd all be better off if we just didnt read it or if you did read it toss the paper in the trash and never mention that you actually did read it.

I don't bother clicking on links unless I see it's from someone who forwards a general high standard of work. I figure that everyone will tell me all I need to know about a crap author and their work in a thread. Works a charm and denies those ****ty "writers" their pay per click quota.