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Hey everyone! Huge game tonight, let's hope our boys get it done! I'll take a W any which way - seared, grilled, tight, loose, full of juice... though it would be nice to not have to visit the nearby walk-in night clinic afterwards for heart palpitations! I'm 26 but these close games are aging me terribly.

Go Pats!! Hoping Hernandez has his breakout game of the season tonight, the potential was there last week! :rocker:
 
ESPN just showed a live look in on the field and Brady was huddling with the offense - - particularly WR's amongst whom were Stallworth and.......Matthew Slater.

Some have suggested a weakness for the Texans is the long pass - - would the Pats use a dose of some bombs to #18?

Be on the lookout.
 
I just got done going over the Texans all 22 tape from this season. I was looking at it like a psychopath this past week. I have come to the conclusion that The Texans are the old Steelers. They do it differently, but essentially they are the same. After looking over the tape, breaking down the team, and understanding them well I can confidently say I think the Patriots will win by two scores.

While this game will be won with all three units, let's look first at how they matchup defensively. Houston begins and ends on offense with the outside zone. From that, they work the areas weak on a cover-2 (cover-2 is a stretch killer), and use a ton of levels concepts in the passing game. Thats why their tight ends are featured so often. The defense must enforce the edges of the defense by squeezing with the corners, and get upfield penetration from the ends to establish a second LOS and effectively clog the flow of the zone. They need good backside pursuit from the backside ends, and will get it from Jones and Ninkovich. Their corners are good run defenders, their ends are good pursuit players, their linebackers are excellent flow players. Inside, the Patriots will win every time. This team, on paper, is built to kill the zone run. A major area I will be watching is how well the linebackers can get recognition and get depth on passing plays to help negate the Houston levels concepts. Pay attention to Mayo and especially Spikes on passing plays. If they are getting good recognition and depth initially it will be a good indicator of how the game will establish itself early. If they can do this without allowing Johnson to make that one play that flips the field I think they will be able to contain that offense nicely.

Offensively, I think this is a game where McDaniels will borrow some O'Brien wham blocking stuff and use Hooman to fill in for Gronk. I think they will need to use this interior motion blocking to slow the rush and games that are certain to be played. I don't want Watt alone on the center or right guard, as he not only can win in the rush, but effectively steer the player to get into the passing lane. The thing that really impresses me about Watt is how well he reads the quarterback. He is so long that he can lockout and stare down the quarterback like a linebacker while engaged. It's really remarkable. He shuffles his feet incredibly well and is very smart about when to check his rush. Hahaha, remember when people were saying Cam Jordan was going to be a better player than Watt and laughing at Grid and I when we were saying he is a top-5 talent? Is that argument over? Towards the Steelers thing, they do what they do and do it well. They bring pressure, they play games, and they're good at generating pressure. That said, this team knows how to beat that defense. You spread them out and carve them up. The Patriots must find a way to win the hashes and outside without Gronk dictating the coverage moves inside. This is a huge game, and I hope Lloyd comes ready to play. I expect a lot of matchups to be exploited and moved around with motion and balance. It's critical that the Patriots find ways to get them to declare pre-snap and check accordingly. I think they will accomplish this easily.

I know it sounds overconfident, but the eye in the sky don't lie. I think Houston is an excellent team. They do what they do and they do it well. That being said, the matchup suits the Pats well, and while this will be a close game for a while I think ultimately the Patriots will pull away in the early 4th. Houston, at it's core is the old Steelers, and that model doesn't matchup well with gameplan teams.

Jay,

Great to have your insight, especially with the benefit of the coaches' tape. I had been thinking a bit along the same lines in terms of the Texans' defense and proclivity to blitz. I think the Pats are very familiar with that, and won't be phased by it.
 
ESPN just showed a live look in on the field and Brady was huddling with the offense - - particularly WR's amongst whom were Stallworth and.......Matthew Slater.

Some have suggested a weakness for the Texans is the long pass - - would the Pats use a dose of some bombs to #18?

Be on the lookout.

Curran mentioned this yesterday that in big games like this brady does get very amped up and takes shots down the field early to be over aggressive at times. Not sure how many times slater has been sucessful for us as a WR but iam personally not too thrilled about him running deep routes.
 
Colts owner with deep thoughts on the game:

Jim Irsay ?@JimIrsay
I think someone should do something tonight

he might be right.
 
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I still think it is funny Tirico is interviewing Brady in Gruden's segment. I wonder if Brady refused to be interviewed by Gruden or Gruden is still crying about the Tuck Rule.
 
I still think it is funny Tirico is interviewing Brady in Gruden's segment. I wonder if Brady refused to be interviewed by Gruden or Gruden is still crying about the Tuck Rule.

I think I read somewhere Gruden was in Tampa for for Super Bowl reunion thing this weekend ... so he might get even more names wrong than usual ("that guy.")
 
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Colts owner with deep thoughts on the game:

Jim Irsay ?@JimIrsay
I think someone should do something tonight

he might be right.

Man, that is the most intelligent Tweet in the history of intelligent Tweets!
 
Trent Dilfer really is a crap analyst.
 
Hey gang...should be a great one tonight!!!!
 
Did Manning make a quiet dig at Brady? "He's still great on the deep ball."
 
ESPN just showed a live look in on the field and Brady was huddling with the offense - - particularly WR's amongst whom were Stallworth and.......Matthew Slater.

Some have suggested a weakness for the Texans is the long pass - - would the Pats use a dose of some bombs to #18?

Be on the lookout.

I would not be at all surprised if the Pats opening play was the same one from a few years ago against Pittsburgh in the play-offs.. Which was the same one they used to beat Miami in OT with Troy Brown even longer ago.. They've used Welker on that play a few times.

It will be interesting to see how well Joseph can hold up and how well Routt plays in their system.
 
I know the chargers D with phillips gave brady a lot of trouble so tonite might not be easy either.

That's true, but I think the SD defense in those years was a lot more tallented than this Houston one is. I think Houston lives and dies from the line. If you can get the ball out fast through small windows you will carve them up. Green Bay did it. Detroit did it. Neither of those teams are as good at distributing the ball this year as NE is.
 
WHY! Why can't the secondary stop Johnson??

Sorry just preloading for later in the game
 
Pats may miss gronk tonite more than the last 2 games.
 
That's true, but I think the SD defense in those years was a lot more tallented than this Houston one is. I think Houston lives and dies from the line. If you can get the ball out fast through small windows you will carve them up. Green Bay did it. Detroit did it. Neither of those teams are as good at distributing the ball this year as NE is.

Agree but GB has much better WR threats compared to the pats esp without gronk.
 
Agree but GB has much better WR threats compared to the pats esp without gronk.
Unlike the Packers the Patriots can run the ball. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
 
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