The 2013 Prospect Thread

[manxman2601]

Overrated/Underrated

2013 NFL Draft, Overrated / Underrated - DraftCountdown.com

You decide!

I don't know whether that's old or not, certainly looks it with Kenny Tate on their as overrated. Not even sure he's rated at all right now.

Like seeing Nick Kasa on there as underrated. Agree with that.

 

[mackenzie45220]

Yeah. The ideal grizzly would be longer than Nix III, and fit better as a 5 tech so Wilfork could retake the 0 in the 3-4. Brockers basically, but if you think Nix III can be the next elite nose tackle then he'd be more than worth a trade up.

I wish Brockers fell. He already has 3 sacks and only has played 7 games.

I just saw Nix III get triple teamed, then effortlessly disengage all three and sniff out a RB screen. Beast!! as Grid would say.

I had him as a top 10 pick before the season started

 

[mackenzie45220]

I love intelligent footballers and Jones knew how to play the game. His sideline judgement was fantastic.

I see Markus Wheaton very much the same. you?


I finally got round to watching your UCLA CB pair. They're fascinating. You watch them and think they're fantastic but then realise that they're not always achieving that much. If it wasn't for one game where one of them got 3 INT's (can't remember which one - they're seperated at birth) they've only got two int's each over two years. They look perfect for the role, but where's the production? Is it athletic limitations? Scheme?

I do like Wheaton. I have him as a late second round prospect.

Regarding the UCLA duo, it's not about their picks. It's about the catches they don't allow. Excluding the Oregon State game (Price struggled, Hester was fine), those two are the stingiest corners in man coverage in the country. I still can't get over last year's Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. They completely destroyed A.J. Jenkins. He couldn't get a foot of separation the entire game. It was just nuts. I've never seen anything like it. For the entire game, IN MAN COVERAGE (he did make a 60 yard catch on a missed assignment in zone), he averaged less than 1.5 yards per target on 14 targets. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

Regarding scheme, they were zone heavy last year, which was pretty stupid, because their linebackers are as anemic in coverage as any linebacker core in the country (the Arizona State game is downright funny), and this year, they have been using more man.

And yes, they were separated at birth. It's pretty weird.

 

[ATippett56]

Louis Nix III | Notre Dame, DT : 2015 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

 

[Sciz]

Has there been any indication as to whether Nix is going to enter the draft? I'm a fan.

 

[manxman2601]

Has there been any indication as to whether Nix is going to enter the draft? I'm a fan.

Not Really. Assuming they miss out on the NC against alabama, got to think there'll be some pressure to come back for another crack. The only people leaving are Eifert, Te'o and a RB. Still a good core.

 

[Sciz]

Not Really. Assuming they miss out on the NC against alabama, got to think there'll be some pressure to come back for another crack. The only people leaving are Eifert, Te'o and a RB. Still a good core.

True, and Tuitt has to stay another year. Makes sense for Tuitt and Nix to play another year and then both enter the 2014 draft.

 

[mayoclinic]

I do like Wheaton. I have him as a late second round prospect.

Regarding the UCLA duo, it's not about their picks. It's about the catches they don't allow. Excluding the Oregon State game (Price struggled, Hester was fine), those two are the stingiest corners in man coverage in the country. I still can't get over last year's Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. They completely destroyed A.J. Jenkins. He couldn't get a foot of separation the entire game. It was just nuts. I've never seen anything like it. For the entire game, IN MAN COVERAGE (he did make a 60 yard catch on a missed assignment in zone), he averaged less than 1.5 yards per target on 14 targets. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

Regarding scheme, they were zone heavy last year, which was pretty stupid, because their linebackers are as anemic in coverage as any linebacker core in the country (the Arizona State game is downright funny), and this year, they have been using more man.

And yes, they were separated at birth. It's pretty weird.

I'm not sure "completely destoryed A.J. Jenkins" is a very strong argument, but I generally agree with you - it's about the coverage, not the picks. Give me a 3rd CB who can play tough physical press-man coverage. The picks will come with pressure and errant throws.

 

[ATippett56]

https://images.nflplayers.com/mediaResources/files/ProspectsBoard_11_19_12.pdf

 

[ATippett56]

Senior Bowl announces early invites - CBSSports.com

 

[manxman2601]

Tony Pauline says that Alex Ogletree and Marcus Lattimore are thinking of declaring:

NFL Draft Insider News & Notes: 4.0

 

[ATippett56]

Finalists Announced for the 2012 Biletnikoff Award « Biletnikoff Award

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Tony Pauline says that Alex Ogletree and Marcus Lattimore are thinking of declaring:

NFL Draft Insider News & Notes: 4.0

I'd definitely pick up Lattimore if he is a UDFA.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I'd definitely pick up Lattimore if he is a UDFA.

How long before he'll be able to walk?

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

How long before he'll be able to walk?

I don't know, but I figure he's worth signing. Get him in Boston with the best doctors and rehab in the country, then hope he's ready for 2014.

 

[mackenzie45220]

Sleeper!
Ra'Shede Hageman. That is all.

 

[manxman2601]

Sleeper!
Ra'Shede Hageman. That is all.

Anything you can tell us about him. I keep seeing him talked about as a quality DT but I've yet to see him play. Also rumoured to be declaring. Has the size for a 5-tech, is that his best fit?

 

[mayoclinic]

Anything you can tell us about him. I keep seeing him talked about as a quality DT but I've yet to see him play. Also rumoured to be declaring. Has the size for a 5-tech, is that his best fit?

See post 1170 above. Former TE. 6'6" 300#. Seems like an interesting prospect, but I've never seen him play.

 

[mackenzie45220]

I know very little about him, except that this is his first year as a defensive player, and he's a rare guy who is 300lbs and runs a 4.78 40 according to NFL draft scout

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

I know very little about him, except that this is his first year as a defensive player, and he's a rare guy who is 300lbs and runs a 4.78 40 according to NFL draft scout