Who the hell Boos their own team in a key 4th quarter moment?

[E1Downey]

Game six, Celtics vs Heat in Boston. The crowd at that game gave me goosebumps. The Celtics had blown the game and were heading to Miami for a game seven. It was a downright ugly performance.

But the crowd started a "lets go celtics" chant that lasted for like the final four minutes of regulation.

The players looked around in amazement as the crowd refused to givw up hope and support despite the piss poor performance.
They inevitably lost on Miami but that final fpur minutes of game six was special. THAT is how you support a team.

-Sent from the device that is held in my hand-

 

[BSR]

Game six, Celtics vs Heat in Boston. The crowd at that game gave me goosebumps. The Celtics had blown the game and were heading to Miami for a game seven. It was a downright ugly performance.

But the crowd started a "lets go celtics" chant that lasted for like the final four minutes of regulation.

The players looked around in amazement as the crowd refused to givw up hope and support despite the piss poor performance.
They inevitably lost on Miami but that final fpur minutes of game six was special. THAT is how you support a team.

-Sent from the device that is held in my hand-

Its fleeting: SLAM ONLINE | » Paul Pierce and the Celtics Hearing Boos

 

[PatsFanSince74]

The horse has been pretty well beat dead :deadhorse: in this thread, but I do think there's a difference between fair weather fans booing an Offense every time it leaves the field on fourth down or a Defense everytime it gives up a score...and knowledgable fans booing to express pent-up frustration after a game full or errors or a season when a team repeats the same pattern in how it loses close games.

Fans have the right to "boo." They don't have the right to be loud, obnoxious or use foul language, but they have a right to express their disappointment and frustration in the right places.

Season Ticket Holders put out anywhere between $1,200 and $3,300 just for the price of their tickets, let alone transportation, parking and concessions. Folks who buy "one off" tickets from the Patriots pay anywhere from $85 to $211 a pop and those who buy on Stub Hub or elsewhere can pay hundreds more.

In the ideal world, there would be a "Fan IQ" or "Fan Sports Knowledge" test before one could buy a ticket or enter the stadium, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. igsfly:

If there were such a test then there would be little if any booing because the fans would all understand how godawful hard it is to achieve success in the NFL and reserve such an expression for those moments when they judge that a team is under-performing or mailing it in. In that context, I have no problem with the fans who booed the Offense when it left the field, one and done, on downs late in the fourth quarter on Sunday after holding a double digit fourth quarter lead; this was how they lost the Baltimore and Seattle games and it was fair, in my opinion, to express frustration with the team's consistent failure to close out close games this year.

IMHO, you never boo a lousy team because it just can't do any better. You never boo a K for missing a FGA. You never boo a good player who makes a rare mistake or a player or group of players (like our deep secondary) who just aren't up to the job. But it is fair to boo a good Offense when it consistently doesn't get the job done, as folks perceived on Sunday.

I know I'm not going to convince the "Booing is always wrong" folks and the "Booing is a natural right so do it at any time" contingent, so I have no illusions that everyone is going to agree with this.

 

[Kontradiction]

Game six, Celtics vs Heat in Boston. The crowd at that game gave me goosebumps. The Celtics had blown the game and were heading to Miami for a game seven. It was a downright ugly performance.

But the crowd started a "lets go celtics" chant that lasted for like the final four minutes of regulation.

The players looked around in amazement as the crowd refused to givw up hope and support despite the piss poor performance.
They inevitably lost on Miami but that final fpur minutes of game six was special. THAT is how you support a team.

-Sent from the device that is held in my hand-

Yeah. I remember that. That was before the Heat ran them up and down the floor in Game 7 and went on to become YOUR 2011-12 NBA CHAMPIONS. :rocker:

In all seriousness, though, I took that as the crowd not only ushering them off in Miami, but also saying goodbye to the Big 3 as it was currently constructed.

 

[E1Downey]

Its fleeting: SLAM ONLINE | » Paul Pierce and the Celtics Hearing Boos

Lol of course it is, most fans have very short memories and an even shorter amount of patience.

But an article written almost three years ago takes NOTHING away from that crowd that gave the Cs an amazing send off a few months ago.

-Sent from the device that is held in my hand-

 

[TruthSeeker]

We're 4-3, tops in the division and setting things up nicely for Nov & Dec football.

What more could you ask for??

A defense that gives me a modicum of hope that they can stop the opponents in the 4th quarter?

An offense that actually scores points in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line?

I don't know, that's a few things off the top of my head. Sticking your head in the sand and boasting of the Patriots 4-3 record when they are getting outscored 50+ to 6 in the 4th quarter isn't my style. There may be worst pass defenses in the NFL, but I haven't been watching them.

 

[signbabybrady]

IMHO, you never boo a lousy team because it just can't do any better. You never boo a K for missing a FGA. You never boo a good player who makes a rare mistake or a player or group of players (like our deep secondary) who just aren't up to the job. But it is fair to boo a good Offense when it consistently doesn't get the job done, as folks perceived on Sunday.

Ding ding ding....Now you have hit the nail on the head here problem is you cant seperate the two which is why I think it is a jerk thing to do.

As you say the boos were likely a cumilative of frustration from the years pattern of not closing out games and its presance in the 4th quarter again had people on edge but at the same moment " You never boo a good player who makes a rare mistake" was the sequence of events that led to the boos not started by a rare offensive pass interfence on Lloyd?

 

[Insaneirish]

look at what they've had to look at so far this year:
cardinals - weak game
broncos - weak finish
jets - weak finish

Can't forget the Ravens and Seahawks, both games they had 10 point leads late and blew it.
This team can't finish on Offense or Defense....

 

[BrickPat]

A defense that gives me a modicum of hope that they can stop the opponents in the 4th quarter?

An offense that actually scores points in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line?

I don't know, that's a few things off the top of my head. Sticking your head in the sand and boasting of the Patriots 4-3 record when they are getting outscored 50+ to 6 in the 4th quarter isn't my style. There may be worst pass defenses in the NFL, but I haven't been watching them.

Could not have said it better. Half assed efforts get half assed results.

 

[Tunescribe]

Can't forget the Ravens and Seahawks, both games they had 10 point leads late and blew it.
This team can't finish on Offense or Defense....

You must have missed the Jets game.

 

[rookBoston]

I've posted many times before, and happy to do so again: this is the GOLDEN ERA of New England football. We will tell our great-grandchildren about the good old days when the Pats contended for the Superbowl every year, and the franchise was the pride of the NFL.

For those of you who plan to do that, shame on you if you forget to tell your great-grandchildren that you EVER booed your team at home because they lost a 4th quarter lead and looked like they were playing a bit flat. Like booing is going to help them.

And for the lame asses who claim they have a right to boo because they paid so much for their tickets, boo boo. All I can say is: DONT BUY THEM!!! STAY AT HOME AND BOO AT THE TV!!! YOU ARE NOT A REAL FAN!!!

 

[pherein]

...and then they would realize its the people that buy the tickets, watch the games and basically are the reason why they get paid millions to play a game.

You have to remember that different cities have different relationships with their teams/players. Northeast cities like NY, Philly and Boston all have their reputations as tough places to play. The fan bases are rabid but the criticisms are sharp and quick to come and the vulture media plays it up fiercely. The Patriots over the last 10 years have been shielded from this attitude mostly because of their winning and Belichick masterfully putting the media on ignore. But its a tenuous shield at best and the vulture media are currently poking looking for weak spots. The reality is that for a Boston team, the Patriots get a relative free pass, even with the occasional booing. I think Pats players look at respective teamates on the Redsox, Celtics and Bruins and realize they have nothing to complain about.

I think this is very healthy that this is a hot topic.

IF your focal point is money, and money you spend to win, only, and be entertained, then you might want to stay home and save some dollars. That is not football.
Even the best get beat, and constantly some of the worst teams in the NFL make the SB.
A fan knows chance, belief, love, devotion, caring, disappointment, frustration, and loyalty. We all know the risk we take believing in at team and loving the players.
You can't excuse immaturity with a $ sign.

This is a family sport, that is suppose to be shared with our kids, and bind with our friends. This is not about money.

It has no positive impact, and hurts your players. So hurts their play, and frankly something a grown man should have the better sense not to do, because it is rude.
I would be shocked to see a father teaching his son to Boo his team. That is not acceptable.

I agree we have a different culture here, old south, but we did deal with this exact issue, and our conclusion was to stop it, and their is no place for that here.

Your fans need to come to their own conclusion. I only hope money doesn't trump the sports experience with your son and family, and how you act in front of them.
Be. courteous in winning and gracious in defeat.

 

[patsfan-1982]

i hate to say it but thats just boston fans they ant happy unless there up by 3 TD's and then once the team is up by 3 TD's all they care about is geting drunk lol

 

[supafly]

i hate to say it but thats just boston fans they ant happy unless there up by 3 TD's and then once the team is up by 3 TD's all they care about is geting drunk lol

I don't really agree with this statement.

I think it's as simple as having high expectations after coming so close to the SB in the past several years, the fact that this team is coming off back to back #1 seeds, major improvements with 2 first round front seven picks, the addition of Brandon Llyod who was considered by most to make the offense practically unstoppable, the re-upping of 2 young and talented TE's, and a resurgence to the running game....

and most of all---a team who has not played up to these expectations.

The play calling and execution of the team has been suspect, and the fact that the 2012 New England Patriots were that close to being 1-2 at home after barely losing there at all in the past 4-5 seasons AND having their second back to back 2 game losing streak after it happening once since 2006 brought out the frustration in fans.

Not really much to see here in my opinion.

I don't see it as necessarily being "spoiled," but more as the coach and the team not living up to their lofty expectations.

 

[aluminum seats]

I've posted many times before, and happy to do so again: this is the GOLDEN ERA of New England football. We will tell our great-grandchildren about the good old days when the Pats contended for the Superbowl every year, and the franchise was the pride of the NFL.

For those of you who plan to do that, shame on you if you forget to tell your great-grandchildren that you EVER booed your team at home because they lost a 4th quarter lead and looked like they were playing a bit flat. Like booing is going to help them.

And for the lame asses who claim they have a right to boo because they paid so much for their tickets, boo boo. All I can say is: DONT BUY THEM!!! STAY AT HOME AND BOO AT THE TV!!! YOU ARE NOT A REAL FAN!!!

god. how old are you.

 

[BrickPat]

You must have missed the Jets game.

They escaped with their proverbial lives in OT against (another) one of the lowest rated QBs in the NFL. The win was great but I wouldn't exactly call it a statement game relative to improvement.

 

[PittPatriot]

Same reason why I don't boo my kids when they do something wrong or boo my colleagues when they screw up.

I don't boo those that I support.

I boo the ******* Jets.

Ideally, I don't either. But I can't pull aside Tom Brady and ask why he can't close out a game anymore…and the Coach who I gave 6 years to bring our defensive backfield to a respectable level answers every question with an annoyed, apathetic, cliched line. Fortunately, my kid is too young to act hat way and if my nurses behaved that way, they'd be working elsewhere.
Maybe the fans at the game were frustrated their $300-$500 afternoon did not meet expectations?

 

[signbabybrady]

They escaped with their proverbial lives in OT against (another) one of the lowest rated QBs in the NFL. The win was great but I wouldn't exactly call it a statement game relative to improvement.

If they pull out a string of close wins for the next few weeks might we not look back at a key game vs the Jets were the team actually figured out how to win a tight one after blowing a few. This certainly could be a statement game but we wont know for sure until we see how they react to their own statement.

 

[signbabybrady]

Ideally, I don't either. But I can't pull aside Tom Brady and ask why he can't close out a game anymore…and the Coach who I gave 6 years to bring our defensive backfield to a respectable level answers every question with an annoyed, apathetic, cliched line. Fortunately, my kid is too young to act hat way and if my nurses behaved that way, they'd be working elsewhere.

I guess maybe a better anology would be booing someone elses kids. I just think it comes down to the fact that there is no where else in society where we boo when we dont like the services being provided except sports. So really the only thing anyone has to defend booing the athletes on the field for poor play is precedent. It is a jerk thing to do and I would prefer my home team crowd not do it and I will complain when they do. If some you guys want to defend it as some sort of right then fine this is America but as the Carlin Quote I posted suggests you have the right to your opinion and I have the right to mine your opinion is you can boo if you want my opinion is you are a jerk for doing so.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

When someone else's kids are earning 10 million a year, I'll be glad to consider this a valid point.

Until then, I reserve the right to boo professionals who are paid obscene amounts of money to PERFORM. When they do not, they get booed. That is part of being a pro.