The Greatess of Gronk

[Krugman]

No argument here,he does it all,hands down the best tight end.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I could be wrong, but is that the same PWP as from the Google message boards of the late 1990's?
If so, I'll take that compliment any day.

No, it is not. It's [email protected] from USENET early 90s

 

[randomk1]

Gronk is the most complete TE in the league right now. I've seen Witten half-assing on his blocking,never see Gates block..not to mention he has been injured like forever now,not sure about Davis...he is pretty beast.

Gronk on the other hand is a big factor in the running game...he blows people up and finishes his blocks. Being a receiving threat that you have to gameplan against helps his case too.

 

[SyN65]

I think it's a little early to call Gronk the best TE in the NFL, but he's certainly on his way. Probably the best young TE in the NFL along with Jimmy Graham.

 

[Deus Irae]

I think it's a little early to call Gronk the best TE in the NFL, but he's certainly on his way. Probably the best young TE in the NFL along with Jimmy Graham.

Don't forget Moeaki, although he's out for the year. He's another very good young TE.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Comparing Welker to C Johnson is going to be tough consider they are physical opposites. Reminds me of the MVP voting in the NBA a few years back: Steve Nash versus Shaquille O'Neal.

 

[rojo8401]

I put Jimmy Graham and Moeaki ahead with the very underrated Lions TE Pettigrew in the mix too.

 

[randomk1]

I put Jimmy Graham and Moeaki ahead with the very underrated Lions TE Pettigrew in the mix too.

Jimmy Graham and Moeaki ahead of Gronk? You kiddin me?

 

[sieglo]

After the past two weeks I am ready to call Gronk the best TE in the NFL. His contributions in the passing game are well known, but his work in the run game has been amongst the best in the league as well. What really gets my attention though is his versatility. I don't think there's been such a blend of skills at his position at such a high level.

In the passing game he presents an amazing combination of skills. Sure, he has nice deep speed and can break a cover-2. Sure, he's a big target that can win with body positioning and presents a tremendous catch radius. Sure, he's strong enough to break jams and tackles, even dragging players for a ride ala the one kid who has hit puberty in Pop Warner. What really amazes me, though is his ability to cut. He is so explosive he can run out cuts against man coverage and get open. He can separate on posts. They can run jerk routes with a TE. He has the skill set of a receiving tight end in a 6'6 270 pound frame. That doesn't happen. Teams have doubled and even tripled him. When was the last time you heard of a tight end requiring a triple in the passing game?!?!

In the blocking game he can contribute in all four areas. He has the feet and length to pass block on the outside, the strength and explosion to drive a man off the ball, the quickness and vision to pull, and the linear acceleration to crack and run wham plays. He does tackle, tight end, and fullback all at an extremely high level.

What the creates is the most versatile offensive chip in the NFL. Just by having Gronk in the game, it opens the potential of the playbook exponentially. Defensive coordinators will have a much lesser tell off of personnel sets. The probability of guessing wrong significantly appreciates. Lately the talk has been on the backs, Welker, and the new 3/5ths of the line, but the real key cog in the machine has been Gronk. He has hall of fame potential and I think that should carry significant weight when discussing both this offense and Belichick's often (mistakenly) maligned drafting practices.

I too have a bad case of Gronkitis.

 

[robbomango]

Gronkness, Gronkizzle, Grizzonk, gettin Gronked, Gronkitis, "The Big LaGronkowski", how many Gronkizms are there that is the question?

 

[randomk1]

Gronkness, Gronkizzle, Grizzonk, gettin Gronked, Gronkitis, "The Big LaGronkowski", how many Gronkizms are there that is the question?

Only the Gronkinator knows the answer.

 

[Grizzafted]

i know it was kind of tangential to the original point of this thread, but when someone said best WR in the NFL I also immediately thought "no, that's Calvin Johnson."

but thinking about it a little bit more, in this system with the type of Quarterback that Brady is, I don't think I'd take CJ for Welker straight up. Welker can just do more. I think you'd see a lot of amazing highlight reel grabs for CJ but Welker's quickness and football IQ really mesh better with Brady than I think anyone else in the NFL... Just as an aside, made me realize that even though CJ is more gifted to me, Welker's ability to adjust on the fly and play multiple positions make him more valuable than CJ would be in this offense IMO.

as to Gronk.....I do actually think that a year out he's going to be the best TE in the NFL. He's got all the physical attributes that Gates and Whitten have, and he's a monster on the line. He could actually wind up being a HOFer, we'll see what happens.

 

[Off The Grid]

Well, it's kind of daunting to speak of "Best Receiver", when Megatron and our man Welker clearly have different roles, isn't it??

Just as The Gronk is ~ arguably ~ the best Flex End in the business, Aaron The Navigator is rapidly emerging as a premier Wing Back.

Megatron is clearly a Split End ~ primarily, of course ~ while Welker is a Slot End.

I see no issue calling them BOTH the best...at their respective positions.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

I dont know as much as most of you about all of the comparing, but I'm happier than a pig in s**t about the entire offense this year. Gronkzilla, AHern, WW ,TFB, Branch, BJEG,..Etc. With TB at the helm, this is gonna be a good season. It's just magical to watch TB run this machine:eat1:It really is great to watch these two TE's grow

 

[VJCPatriot]

I still think Vernon Davis is the best TE in the league. The poor guy has Alex Smith throwing to him and is still a beast.

Davis has the edge in speed his blocking is not nearly as good as the Gronk.
When you talk about having every skillset a tight end needs at an elite level, it's no contest, Gronk is the COMPLETE package.
Scary thing is he keeps getting better week after week. This is gonna be a fun season to watch!!

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I think i have to get a Gronk jersey now :rocker:

 

[BradyFTW!]

I put Jimmy Graham and Moeaki ahead with the very underrated Lions TE Pettigrew in the mix too.

Gronk does everythig that Pettigrew does, plus is much faster and a better receiver.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Over on Footballs Future. . . .

I for one must say that the Pats have the best tight end tandem in the league although I'm a Dolphins fan. I was curious to know if any of those guys are tradeable or are they both and by both i mean A. Hernandez and R. Gronkowski just fit the sytem perfectly. Where do you guys value them for trade wise?...JUst curious to know not proposing anything

Poor LOLphins fan.

 

[TB146]

Even my 4-yr old daughter knows Gronk is the best. While I was re-watching parts of the game last night she started cheering for him "Gronk! Gronk! Gronky! Gronk!" My wife asked her who her favorite person was on the Patriots and she thought for a moment and said "Gronk! He's the best. I want to make him a love card." So she got out a piece of paper and drew herself, a big heart and a tall guy with a face mask (so the other people can't hit him) and "87" written on his chest (although it came out "887" at first).

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

Even my 4-yr old daughter knows Gronk is the best. While I was re-watching parts of the game last night she started cheering for him "Gronk! Gronk! Gronky! Gronk!" My wife asked her who her favorite person was on the Patriots and she thought for a moment and said "Gronk! He's the best. I want to make him a love card." So she got out a piece of paper and drew herself, a big heart and a tall guy with a face mask (so the other people can't hit him) and "87" written on his chest (although it came out "887" at first).

Awesome. Smart girl. Now gronk on the other hand. "Big as a bull, but cant spell it". :singing:. Go Gronk!:rocker: