Dolphins worried about noise from visiting Pats fans

[Brady_to_Moss]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rocker:

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Please, don't start with this nonsense.

Aren't you a season ticket holder? Are you in denial or something? How could you call that nonsense? Every time I go to Gillette, I am disgusted by the lack of cheering for the defense. If the beer there wasn't so expensive, I'd be tempted to throw it on all the dooshes dressed like they're golfing, chatting about work with their "colleagues".

 

[Tunescribe]

Aren't you a season ticket holder? Are you in denial or something? How could you call that nonsense? Every time I go to Gillette, I am disgusted by the lack of cheering for the defense. If the beer there wasn't so expensive, I'd be tempted to throw it on all the dooshes dressed like they're golfing, chatting about work with their "colleagues".

Every freakin' year, the same freakin' argument. Yes, I am a season ticket holder. No, Gillette is not as loud as it could be if the stadium was configured differently. No, the crowd is not as lame as people like you claim it is. I have attended all but three (3) home games in the last 18 seasons. The only time I've been pissed at the crowd was Oct. 5, 2003 vs. the Titans when morons in the stadium were listening to their radios and mini-TVs and cheering for the Bankofamericasox at inappropriate times.

Just stop already. I've been to quite a few other NFL stadiums as a visiting fan and have a solid basis for comparison. The very open construction of Gillette has much, much more to do with the crowd noise factor than the crowd itself. Give it a rest.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Every freakin' year, the same freakin' argument. Yes, I am a season ticket holder. No, Gillette is not as loud as it could be if the stadium was configured differently. No, the crowd is not as lame as people like you claim it is. I have attended all but three (3) home games in the last 18 seasons. The only time I've been pissed at the crowd was Oct. 5, 2003 vs. the Titans when morons in the stadium were listening to their radios and mini-TVs and cheering for the Bankofamericasox at inappropriate times.

Just stop already. I've been to quite a few other NFL stadiums as a visiting fan and have a solid basis for comparison. The very open construction of Gillette has much, much more to do with the crowd noise factor than the crowd itself. Give it a rest.

Sure, the open nature of the stadium is a factor in volume, but it doesn't prevent people from cheering. Look around next time. Most of the "fans" are not even cheering when the D is on the field..... heck, some of them even complain when real fans are cheering too loud. Until that changes, the Pats will have one of the worst home crowds in the league. Denial it is.

 

[Tunescribe]

Sure, the open nature of the stadium is a factor in volume, but it doesn't prevent people from cheering. Look around next time. Most of the "fans" are not even cheering when the D is on the field..... heck, some of them even complain when real fans are cheering too loud. Until that changes, the Pats will have one of the worst home crowds in the league. Denial it is.

And in what context do you offer this opinion? How many other NFL stadiums have you been in during the regular season? How many Pats games have you actually attended?

 

[NEGoldenAge]

And in what context do you offer this opinion? How many other NFL stadiums have you been in during the regular season? How many Pats games have you actually attended?

I've attended at least 11 Patriots game in various venues. I've seen football (not all Pats) games at the old Foxboro stadium (when blue collar fans could afford tickets), Gillette, Ralph Wilson, the old Meadowlands, the RCA Dome, Sun Life, and Candelstick Park. Something you may also notice is that you can actually see and hear the fans when you watch football on TV. Instead of asking how many games I've been to, open your eyes while at the Razor and the answer becomes obvious. High ticket prices have ruined the Pat's home field crowd.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Bills should have tried this last year at their December home game against the Pats. Bills usually have a pretty rowdy crowd, but I swear, last year, there are literally 30-35% pats fans at the START of the game. By the time we got to about 40 points, it was more like 65%.

This is by far more then it has been every other time I've been there (which is often). Much as people like to "spout" on and on about the "Hateability" of the Patriots, Patriot nation just keeps growing.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

The 2007 LOLphins game in Miami was hilarious. . . . you could hear the crowd chanting "Let's Go Red Sox."

 

[Tunescribe]

I've attended at least 11 Patriots game in various venues. I've seen football (not all Pats) games at the old Foxboro stadium (when blue collar fans could afford tickets), Gillette, Ralph Wilson, the old Meadowlands, the RCA Dome, Sun Life, and Candelstick Park. Something you may also notice is that you can actually see and hear the fans when you watch football on TV. Instead of asking how many games I've been to, open your eyes while at the Razor and the answer becomes obvious. High ticket prices have ruined the Pat's home field crowd.

You've been to 11 Patriots games in various venues. I've been to approximately 220 (not including preseason) including games in Jacksonville, Houston, Buffalo, New Jersey (old and new stadiums), Washington D.C., Seattle, San Diego, Baltimore, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Chicago and Minnesota. Seattle was the loudest (guess why). Pittsburgh was second-loudest (playoff game). Everywhere else is/was on a par with Gillette in terms of fan involvement. As I've noted, Gillette is quite unique in the way it disperses sound. It has four open skylight sections at mid-level, no upper deck in either end zone, a half-open north end zone, plus sideline upper decks vaulted high above two tiers of luxury suites. And of course, there is mid-level sideline club seating between the 30-yard-lines that often is not full.

If you think high ticket prices have "ruined" the Pats' home-field crowd you simply are mistaken. Compare it to stadiums where season ticket holders are forced to buy PSLs and then get back to me.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

You've been to 11 Patriots games in various venues. I've been to approximately 220 (not including preseason) including games in Jacksonville, Houston, Buffalo, New Jersey (old and new stadiums), Washington D.C., Seattle, San Diego, Baltimore, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Chicago and Minnesota. Seattle was the loudest (guess why). Pittsburgh was second-loudest (playoff game). Everywhere else is/was on a par with Gillette in terms of fan involvement. As I've noted, Gillette is quite unique in the way it disperses sound. It has four open skylight sections at mid-level, no upper deck in either end zone, a half-open north end zone, plus sideline upper decks vaulted high above two tiers of luxury suites. And of course, there is mid-level sideline club seating between the 30-yard-lines that often is not full.

If you think high ticket prices have "ruined" the Pats' home-field crowd you simply are mistaken. Compare it to stadiums where season ticket holders are forced to buy PSLs and then get back to me.

I don't think you should compare the crowd for teams that suck to teams that are constantly in the playoffs. If teams sucks, the silence of the fans is not a reflection on the crowd, it is a reflection on the team. Teams that give their fans a reason to cheer have fans that cheer, period. The Pats are the one successful team that have a home crowd where 70% of them don't cheer when the D is on the field. Try to spin it anyway that you want, but the accoustics of Gillette don't prevent people from doing their part. Your golf buddies that chit chat while the D is on the field shouldn't be allowed in the stadium. If you're not going to help the team, watch the game from home or go play some golf.

 

[Tunescribe]

I don't think you should compare the crowd for teams that suck to teams that are constantly in the playoffs. If teams sucks, the silence of the fans is not a reflection on the crowd, it is a reflection on the team. Teams that give their fans a reason to cheer have fans that cheer, period. The Pats are the one successful team that have a home crowd where 70% of them don't cheer when the D is on the field. Try to spin it anyway that you want, but the accoustics of Gillette don't prevent people from doing their part. Your golf buddies that chit chat while the D is on the field shouldn't be allowed in the stadium. If you're not going to help the team, watch the game from home or go play some golf.

Now you're just taking your nonsense to the level of insult. I give you objective information, you give opinion. Fine for you. That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee somewhere. For the record: I always yell myself hoarse at Pats games. And, I've never played a round of golf. Run along now.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

I've attended at least 11 Patriots game in various venues. I've seen football (not all Pats) games at the old Foxboro stadium (when blue collar fans could afford tickets), Gillette, Ralph Wilson, the old Meadowlands, the RCA Dome, Sun Life, and Candelstick Park. Something you may also notice is that you can actually see and hear the fans when you watch football on TV. Instead of asking how many games I've been to, open your eyes while at the Razor and the answer becomes obvious. High ticket prices have ruined the Pat's home field crowd.

If you are worried about a "ruined" crowd, why not propose public financing for the Kraft family? They can then lower ticket prices for "real" fans since they would not have to fully finance the stadium.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Now you're just taking your nonsense to the level of insult. I give you objective information, you give opinion. Fine for you. That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee somewhere. For the record: I always yell myself hoarse at Pats games. And, I've never played a round of golf. Run along now.

Seeing 70% of the home crowd not cheering is not an opinion. It's an observation. If you disagree with that after watching hundreds of games, well that speaks for itself.

 

[dalero]

I don't think you should compare the crowd for teams that suck to teams that are constantly in the playoffs. If teams sucks, the silence of the fans is not a reflection on the crowd, it is a reflection on the team. Teams that give their fans a reason to cheer have fans that cheer, period. The Pats are the one successful team that have a home crowd where 70% of them don't cheer when the D is on the field. Try to spin it anyway that you want, but the accoustics of Gillette don't prevent people from doing their part. Your golf buddies that chit chat while the D is on the field shouldn't be allowed in the stadium. If you're not going to help the team, watch the game from home or go play some golf.

They lose noise because of the structure but they mainly lose noise because a large number of people in the Fidelity seats aren't even football fans never mind Pats fans. Corporates own the majority of those seats and give them out to clients,vendors, etc. I've sat in the red seats a half dozen times thanks to my wife. You would be amazed how many people are sitting around tables drinking, eating and some even playing cards during the game. When you see empty red seats they are not watching the game from inside either because you can't see half the field from inside. Bottom line is you lose noise in the prime seats and the 300s are so high and far away you might as well be screaming from Providence.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

They lose noise because of the structure but they mainly lose noise because a large number of people in the Fidelity seats aren't even football fans never mind Pats fans. Corporates own the majority of those seats and give them out to clients,vendors, etc. I've sat in the red seats a half dozen times thanks to my wife. You would be amazed how many people are sitting around tables drinking, eating and some even playing cards during the game. When you see empty red seats they are not watching the game from inside either because you can't see half the field from inside. Bottom line is you lose noise in the prime seats and the 300s are so high and far away you might as well be screaming from Providence.

Well after this week's market performance, Fidelity may be selling those red seats cheap on EBay.
Word up is that the ETrade baby is crying inconsolably.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

They lose noise because of the structure but they mainly lose noise because a large number of people in the Fidelity seats aren't even football fans never mind Pats fans. Corporates own the majority of those seats and give them out to clients,vendors, etc. I've sat in the red seats a half dozen times thanks to my wife. You would be amazed how many people are sitting around tables drinking, eating and some even playing cards during the game. When you see empty red seats they are not watching the game from inside either because you can't see half the field from inside. Bottom line is you lose noise in the prime seats and the 300s are so high and far away you might as well be screaming from Providence.

I've been in the upper seats many times, and most of the fans still aren't cheering when they should. That is the entire point. This is a winning franchise, but the home crowd is passive. It's very sad, the players deserve better.

 

[Lurks_All_Day]

Now you're just taking your nonsense to the level of insult. I give you objective information, you give opinion. Fine for you. That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee somewhere. For the record: I always yell myself hoarse at Pats games. And, I've never played a round of golf. Run along now.

Where do you get a cup of coffee for a dollar anymore?
Just wondering....

 

[Tunescribe]

Seeing 70% of the home crowd not cheering is not an opinion. It's an observation. If you disagree with that after watching hundreds of games, well that speaks for itself.

My first thought was how the hell you calculated 70 percent of the crowd not cheering at a given moment, but it's readily apparent you pulled that out of your arse just like your other opinion-driven "information." Well, that speaks for itself.

Where do you get a cup of coffee for a dollar anymore?
Just wondering....

Drop by my place anytime and I'll fill 'er up for a buck.

 

[YearbookCurfew]

Hell yeah! Go Pats!

 

[Joker]

Where do you get a cup of coffee for a dollar anymore?
Just wondering....

Cumberland Farms...all coffee is 99 cents