so, the Colts have some boo-boo's, right?

[lostjumper]

Yeah, it sure is tough when you have to play against your own team AND the opposition...

The pats are used to this. We've been playing again the colts and the refs for 5 straight years!

 

[RyanTheColtsFan]

post game Sunday....

hey...where's all the Colts fans?

they all went downtown to drown their sorrows at the Excusery..

i'll be at the game. be nice to me

 

[Fball]

The pats are used to this. We've been playing again the colts and the refs for 5 straight years!

It's funny to read stuff like this; perception as a fan does not = reality.

I would never argue that the Colts don't get favorable officiating, but around the league's fanbases, 4 teams are generally acknowledged to get this: the Colts, the Steelers, the Cowboys, and yes - the Pats.

 

[BSR]

I hope he is back. The problem with White is he is a slower version of Collie. He is a good 3rd or 4th option. It would be really nice to have Collie back, but he hasn't been cleared by the doctors yet. Hopefully he will be, he got cleared for practice yesterday. If Collie and White are both back, then there is a chance they get Garcon of the field and split Collie out wide instead of in the slot and put White in the slot. The problem with that is then the Colts will have no deep threat. Though some would argue we don't have one right now since Garcon can't seem to catch anything.

The Colts will have all of their players back except for Clark and you are still going to play the "woe is me" card? What happened to all those claims that Peyton made his line better and Peyton made his WRs better? All you ever heard about was how he could make anyone great. Now, unless he has Wayne, Clark and at least two other great WRs then he can't possibly be expected to perform. Meanwhile Brady is doing it with the likes of Brandon Tate, a retreaded Branch and Welker on one leg. Tell you what, lets swap all of the Colts WRs and RBs for all the Pats WRs and RBs, deal?

 

[Deus Irae]

It's funny to read stuff like this; perception as a fan does not = reality.

I would never argue that the Colts don't get favorable officiating, but around the league's fanbases, 4 teams are generally acknowledged to get this: the Colts, the Steelers, the Cowboys, and yes - the Pats.

There's a common thread with those 4 teams that would make people say that, true or not.

 

[tobias funke]

I'll take "most nationally televised games in recent history" for $800, Alex.

 

[TruthSeeker]

We're really two teams. When we're healthy, assuming at some point that we will get healthy, I think that's a reasonable assumption, I think we're a pretty good team. Right now, we really don't know what we are because we don't know who is going to play from day to day. It's a tribute to our coaching staff that they've gotten this team to play as well as it has for as long as it has. But, if this epidemic of injuries, and that's exactly what it is. It's an epidemic. [If it] continues we can only stretch the rubber band so far. We're on the brink of succumbing to this injury epidemic.

It’s really hard for me just in the middle of the 2010 season to think about too much of the history and years past, especially this year with all that’s going on with our team. There are so many new players that we’re playing. [With] some of the challenges that we’ve faced, I’m really just focusing on this year.

This effectively ends the debate. Thanks for the facts.

 

[tobias funke]

Since I posted those two quotes, workhorse hasn't made a post in this thread.

I'm going to assume he's in the bathroom.

(beating up a towel dispenser)

 

[RWayne911]

The Colts will have all of their players back except for Clark and you are still going to play the "woe is me" card? What happened to all those claims that Peyton made his line better and Peyton made his WRs better? All you ever heard about was how he could make anyone great. Now, unless he has Wayne, Clark and at least two other great WRs then he can't possibly be expected to perform. Meanwhile Brady is doing it with the likes of Brandon Tate, a retreaded Branch and Welker on one leg. Tell you what, lets swap all of the Colts WRs and RBs for all the Pats WRs and RBs, deal?

Apparently you know nothing about Colts football so stop speaking on it.

- Brackett is missing Sunday's game.
- Session is likely missing Sunday's game.
- Sanders didn't even come close to practicing this week.
- Collie is questionable.
- Addai is even more questionable with that neck injury after being only limited yesterday.
- Our second string TE (Elridge) is out.

Manning was playing with 5th and 6th string WRs from the practice squad. An undrafted free agent from practice squad got the majority of the snaps from RB (Javarris James) and our 3rd string TE is currently starting (Jacob Tamme). Our offense line consists of two undrafted guards, an undrafted center who's getting very old, a 6th round left tackle, and a 4th round over the hill right tackle (Ryan Diem) who's easily the worst blocker on the Colts.

I would love to see how Brady does with that line, along with Tate, Hernandez, & Grownkowski being out, as well as Welker missing multiple games.

I would LOVE to see how Brady does with his 5th & 6th string WR on the practice squad taking the majority of the snaps, while having an undrafted 4th string RB from the practice squad taking the handoffs.

Only Clark? You honestly said we only have Clark out? LOL. If it makes you all feel better at this board, you can use your imagination and say we "only" have Clark out.

 

[workhorse]

Since I posted those two quotes, workhorse hasn't made a post in this thread.

I'm going to assume he's in the bathroom.

(beating up a towel dispenser)

Chill out. My life isn't centered around a message board. Forgive me for taking my daughter to school and going to the store. Jeeze.

 

[Metaphors]

i'll be at the game. be nice to me

Dude, nice to see you back on the board. Interested in your opinion on the impact of Brackett and Session being out (haven't practiced this week). Eagles ran through the middle of the Colts D and Gresham had a great game last week. With Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker on tap, I would think not having those linebackers would have a larger impact on the game than Addai or Collie.

Also, how are the injuries affecting special teams? Seems like PHI and CIN (two below average return units) had some success on kickoffs. Tate has been quiet for a while but he is overdue to bust a return.

 

[workhorse]

The Colts will have all of their players back except for Clark and you are still going to play the "woe is me" card? What happened to all those claims that Peyton made his line better and Peyton made his WRs better? All you ever heard about was how he could make anyone great. Now, unless he has Wayne, Clark and at least two other great WRs then he can't possibly be expected to perform. Meanwhile Brady is doing it with the likes of Brandon Tate, a retreaded Branch and Welker on one leg. Tell you what, lets swap all of the Colts WRs and RBs for all the Pats WRs and RBs, deal?

Where is the woe is me int that? I was responding to his comments about Blair White.

Peyton has made his line better. Most other QBs would have been sacked at least twice as many times, probably three times as many times.

Retreaded Branch? When you guys traded for him, his second coming was being hailed as the second coming.

I'll trade you our healthy running backs for your healthy running backs in a heartbeat.

 

[tobias funke]

Chill out. My life isn't centered around a message board. Forgive me for taking my daughter to school and going to the store. Jeeze.

So it was only centered around a message board when no one had posted evidence directly negating your argument that Colts' personnel haven't made multiple references to injuries being tough to deal with this season.

Makes sense to me.

 

[workhorse]

Dude, nice to see you back on the board. Interested in your opinion on the impact of Brackett and Session being out (haven't practiced this week). Eagles ran through the middle of the Colts D and Gresham had a great game last week. With Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker on tap, I would think not having those linebackers would have a larger impact on the game than Addai or Collie.

Also, how are the injuries affecting special teams? Seems like PHI and CIN (two below average return units) had some success on kickoffs. Tate has been quiet for a while but he is overdue to bust a return.

Our back ups have been pretty decent at linebacker, but both Angerer and Conner are rooks and make some rookie mistakes. There is a definite drop off, but I like Angerer's play. Brackett's impact would be felt more in the passing game, but Session is playing at a higher level. So, it's a toss up if I had to pick if I could only choose to have one back this week. I picked up Gronkowski in my fantasy league if that tells you anything. And I'm not kidding. The offense really needs to get back either Addai or Collie to add some stability. The threat of a run game and even some limited success is key to this offense clicking. The passing game has been really diminished with only two real options, Reggie and Jacob Tamme. Without that third option, teams have been taking away Reggie. So adding either Addai or Collie should open things up a little.

 

[workhorse]

So it was only centered around a message board when no one had posted evidence directly negating your argument that Colts' personnel haven't made multiple references to injuries being tough to deal with this season.

Makes sense to me.

Wtf are you taking about? I'm sorry if real life gets in the way of your internet.

 

[tobias funke]

Wtf are you taking about? I'm sorry if real life gets in the way of your internet.

I'm also not surprised at all you're continuing an off-topic line of discussion instead of responding to the quotes in question.

Then again I guess this is the internet, where admitting you were wrong and moving on is against the rules.

C'est la vie.

 

[Metaphors]

Our back ups have been pretty decent at linebacker, but both Angerer and Conner are rooks and make some rookie mistakes. There is a definite drop off, but I like Angerer's play. Brackett's impact would be felt more in the passing game, but Session is playing at a higher level. So, it's a toss up if I had to pick if I could only choose to have one back this week. I picked up Gronkowski in my fantasy league if that tells you anything. And I'm not kidding. The offense really needs to get back either Addai or Collie to add some stability. The threat of a run game and even some limited success is key to this offense clicking. The passing game has been really diminished with only two real options, Reggie and Jacob Tamme. Without that third option, teams have been taking away Reggie. So adding either Addai or Collie should open things up a little.

Welcome back to you as well. We definitely lucked out with the Colt representation here.

I'm actually more worried about Manning throwing a bunch of checkdowns to the RBs (Brown, Addai or whoever) than I am about anything deep. Wayne seems hampered by his knee and doesn't seem to have the same burst in his route running. Garcon is fine but I'm wondering if he is mentally sharp with all the criticism he has received from the local media.

I'm hoping that Collie doesn't play for his sake. His routes tend to put him in range of the safeties and if he gets lit up by Meriweather or Chung, he could be out for an extended period of time. Getting 2 concussions within a 2 week period starts to put you in that danger zone.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

people criticize the Patriots for "never saying anything" in press conferences, and everyone speaking Belichickian, saying

-it is what is is
-one game at a time
-we just want to do our job
-every opponent is tough
-we need to get better at every aspect of the game

But notice when a strong coach isn't there to teach the players how to handle themselves in public, whiny Coltish excuse-fests can occur.

 

[tobias funke]

When your General Manager is the saying things like "We're on the brink of succumbing to this injury epidemic", it's only going to trickle down to the rest of the team.

Honestly that's what offends me the most. From throwing his O-line under the bus after the Super Bowl, to this, it just doesn't seem like the sort of things your most public front-office employee should be saying to the media. Why not try to give the guys who are healthy as much confidence as possible that they can get the job done?

 

[workhorse]

I'm also not surprised at all you're continuing an off-topic line of discussion instead of responding to the quotes in question.

Then again I guess this is the internet, where admitting you were wrong and moving on is against the rules.

C'est la vie.

Here. So you will feel better about yourself. Bill Polian said that we have had an epidemic of injuries. You obviously have more time to got find stuff to support your way of thinking. I have no clue if your guys have talked about it much. BB doesn't say much, so I'm guessing there is only a little material out there. I have to kids to feed, get dressed and off to school as well as getting myself ready for work. I don't have the time to go research what your guys say. I'm glad you don't have any homework if you are at home or your boss doesn't mind you surfing the net at work, but I have more important things to do. Though I still haven't seen where anyone said the challenge of the Patriots is going to be too hard because of our injuries. BTW, I need to finish getting ready for work if you don't mind. I'll try to pop back on before I leave to say bye, if that's ok.