A trade proposal

[AzPatsFan]

Here is a proposed trade.

Disgruntled Chargers Offensive Tackle Marcus McNeil for Patriots Offensive Guard Logan Mankins. Both are unhappy with negotiations for a new contract. New team and scenery might help resolve their contract squabbles.

Comments?

 

[patsfan-1982]

Marcus McNeil, would want more then mankins, wants all pro LT's get paid a lot more then all pro LG's i think they would be better off just paying mankins, if he is asking 6 or 7 million a year.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

can this McNeil guy rush the passer?

Seriously though, he probably wants a ton of money.

 

[Calciumee]

This trade would probably defeat the point of why Mankins wants out.

 

[NE_Paddy]

If we're trading Mankins, I'd rather send him to Kansas City (who are rebuilding their o-line) for Tamba Hali.

 

[lillestroom]

If we're trading Mankins, I'd rather send him to Kansas City (who are rebuilding their o-line) for Tamba Hali.

If Mankins were to be traded, I'm pretty sure that BB would want a versatile lineman rather than a stud. BB likes flexability in his linemen. Nearly all can switch at least one position.

 

[Underdog]

As I said on another forum when someone made a similar proposal about Jared Gaither:

I really don't see them trading one disgruntled player looking for a new contract they're not going to get from the Pats for another disgruntled player looking for a new contract they're not going to get from the Pats.

 

[Criptonite]

Also, offensive tackle is a position we are set at. With Light, Vollmer, Kaczur and LeVoir, I don't see the need to add another tackle to the group. I'm sure there's a different player we could acquire that would fill an actual need on the team.

 

[Sciz]

As a tackle rather than a guard, McNeill would cost a few million dollars a year more. That doesn't really solve anything.

 

[Rob0729]

First, the Chargers are not going to give up the guy who protects River's blindside for a guard even one of the best guards in the NFL. I guess the Pats could throw Light into the deal since he is in the last year of his deal and McNeill would make him irrelevant, but the Pats would still have a hole at LG assuming Kazcur doesn't make the transition.

Second, LT isn't a position of need at this time. Light is still an above average LT and Vollmer looks like a solid heir apparent in 2011. Why would the Pats trade Mankins for something they don't have a need when they clear could use an outside pass rusher even if Mankins could only attract a trade for an above average one.

Third, the Pats are having trouble signing Mankins to a deal that would pay him top 5 guard salary, how is trading that problem to acquire a LT looking for top LT money solving anything. The reason why McNeill would even be considered for trade is because he cannot get the Chargers to pay him top dollar, what makes you think the Pats would especially if they think Vollmer is going to be an above average to great LT when Matt Light's contract is up?

Trade makes no sense. If the Pats are going to trade Mankins for another player. Look for a team with an overabundance of outside pass rushers that might be willing to part with them. Since we are talking about San Diego who is unlikely going to do any favors for the Pats, I would say I'd rather trade with Indy for Robert Mathis who is balking about contracts. Indy needs o-line help and Mathis is on his way out the door in a year or two anyway since the Colts drafted Jerry Hughes. That won't happen either, but at least the trade makes more sense.

 

[dhamz]

The rare trade proposal that makes no sense for either team.

 

[Reckedtrek]

If the Pats trade Mankins, they'll probably get a pick or picks. If they actually do get a player, they need someone who can pass rush, first and foremost. The next need on the team is a very good or better RB who is 27 or younger. The chances of trading one LG for another teams LG is unlikely unless it was a part of a package deal (a good but not great LG and a 3rd round pick for Mankins for example- not that I'm saying they should do this).

The original proposal in this thread makes no sense as has been already pointed out.

 

[mgteich]

I think that the patriots would take a "good" guard plus a 3rd in a heartbeat.

If the Pats trade Mankins, they'll probably get a pick or picks. If they actually do get a player, they need someone who can pass rush, first and foremost. The next need on the team is a very good or better RB who is 27 or younger. The chances of trading one LG for another teams LG is unlikely unless it was a part of a package deal (a good but not great LG and a 3rd round pick for Mankins for example- not that I'm saying they should do this).

The original proposal in this thread makes no sense as has been already pointed out.

 

[Calciumee]

I think that the patriots would take a "good" guard plus a 3rd in a heartbeat.

Take your pick

 

[Kontradiction]

This trade really wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

[Reckedtrek]

I think that the patriots would take a "good" guard plus a 3rd in a heartbeat.

Maybe they would! Hey I'm smarter than I thought I was... but that's still not saying much, though.

 

[Bostonian1962]

Mankins derserves to bring a first round pick. He's a young former first round pick, that is now an All Pro Player.

St. Louis desperately needs an O Lineman or two.

Problem solved.

 

[Calciumee]

Mankins derserves to bring a first round pick. He's a young former first round pick, that is now an All Pro Player.

St. Louis desperately needs an O Lineman or two.

Problem solved.

I doubt they would trade their 1st rounder, because they are far from becoming an 8-8 team. So it would be a very high draft pick for him, which I can't see them trading a Top 10. most likely Top 5 pick for Mankins.

 

[Criptonite]

If they actually do get a player, they need someone who can pass rush, first and foremost. The next need on the team is a very good or better RB who is 27 or younger.

Well how about this then. Mankins for DeAngelo Williams. Carolina really needs a guard. Williams' contract is up at the end of the season. I don't know if they'll want to keep 2 high priced RBs. The Pats get a great 27 year old starting RB. Plus, the marketing is easy. New England's sub chain D'Angelos quickly hires DeAngelo to promote their food. Done and done.

 

[patfanken]

If the Pats could reach a reasonable contract arrangement with McNeal, I'd jump on this in a nano second. Quality LTs are a gift in this league and McNeal is a good one. I'd then move Light to LG, Volmer to RT and have Kaszur backing up all 4 OL positions. A Volmer/McNeil Tackle duo could be a elite pairing for the next 8-10 years, and I believe that Light at LG would be only a marginal downgrade to start with, and by the end of the season, he'd be playing at an all pro level.

I think the Pats have a very rare opportunity to trade for equal value in a player as opposed to draft picks. If trading an elite OG for an elite LT isn't your cup of tea, there are over 200 RFAs. all of whom are pissed at their situations, to choose from.

Mankins is worth a first round pick, but it might be very difficult to get one because everyone is aware of the "disconnect" between Logan and the Pats. Also it would be hard for any team to be willing to give up a first rounder for an interior OLman.

Personally I'm hoping he'll be back, but unfortunately the Branch deal set the precedent for a player being able to shoot his way out of town. That being the case, this is best environment in NFL history to make a player for player trade.