A ghost from draft pasts...

[cstjohn17]

Quentin Groves traded... the next Lawrence Taylor...

For the record I didn't like Groves but I did think Harvey was great!


Quentin Groves

"The Twitter account allegedly registered to DE Quentin Groves indicates that he's been traded to the Raiders.

Groves tweeted an hour ago, "OAKLAND HERE I COME!" and changed his Twitter avatar to the Raiders' logo. Acquiring Groves, a situational defensive end, would decrease the likelihood of Oakland selecting Jason Pierre-Paul with the No. 8 overall pick. It would also amplify the Jags' pass-rushing need."

 

[stinkypete]

Wow, first Kamerion Wembley then Quinten Groves. Perhaps the Raiders might be calling the Jets for Vernon Gholston while they're at it. Let's assemble an entire team of draft bust edge rushers.

As for the Jags need for a pass rusher, while I agree it exists, how do the Jags not select a defensive back at #10? Their coverage was awful last year.

 

[jmt57]

With the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, a few gems from this board in discussions about Groves as a draft prospect two years ago.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/79151-if-belichick-took-otah-would-you-angry.html#post826095
"Or you bring in a difference maker on defense like a Vernon Gholston or my choice is turning more into quentin Groves." - Crazyeechrispats1

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81314-ochmeds-first-mock.html#post866903
"I personally like Gholston, but I'd be very happy to get Groves later instead." - DocE

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81783-bb-pats-fans-here-linebackers-you-been-waiting.html#post875702
"No, the LB I was waiting for was Quentin Groves." - The Archives

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78421-chris-longs-change-direction-athletic-ability-impressive-page7.html#post812870
"I'm still not sure why you all think Groves will be available if we trade down. For example, if Gholston is gone at #6, I don't think we should hesitate to choose Groves at #7." - mgteich

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78421-chris-longs-change-direction-athletic-ability-impressive.html#post811956
"I've already talked about how much I like Groves (been talking about him for months), so you don't have to win me over. Trading down and taking Groves has been among my favorite options, too." - sebman2112

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81526-im-seeing-lot-ty-warren-quentin-groves.html#post870376
"Groves has the athletic ability of Gaines Adams. That kind of blinding quickness off the edge." - Pony Express

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/264607-2008-lost-pick.html#post1473975
"The loss of Groves is a huge hole in our pass rush." - Ochmed Jones

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/79673-gholston-vs-groves.html#post837647
The title says it all

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81727-bleh-draft-page2.html#post874271
"I am very disapointed that the Pats didn't make a move for Quentin Groves in the second round." - The Archives

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78319-gholston-will-gone-before-7-a-page4.html#post810415
"I don't have a Big issue with Gholston, but, I believe the BEST Linebacker Prospect (we the fans are sleeping on) is Quentin Groves at Auburn. He's 6' 4" 254 and runs a 4.46 40 and is a AD clone who is a pass rush specialists who has played OLB and ILB." - PatsandTrojans55

 

[AJD]

he has the production of an AD clone.

 

[patchick]

I fully admit that I was a big Groves fan. But right before that draft, weird vague rumors started circulating about him. I remember an interview with one draft expert who was asked to predict a big bust of the draft, and he named Groves. When asked why, he got all mysterious and made it sound like it was something he really shouldn't talk about. :confused2:

 

[chevss454]

With the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, a few gems from this board in discussions about Groves as a draft prospect two years ago.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/79151-if-belichick-took-otah-would-you-angry.html#post826095
"Or you bring in a difference maker on defense like a Vernon Gholston or my choice is turning more into quentin Groves." - Crazyeechrispats1

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81314-ochmeds-first-mock.html#post866903
"I personally like Gholston, but I'd be very happy to get Groves later instead." - DocE

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81783-bb-pats-fans-here-linebackers-you-been-waiting.html#post875702
"No, the LB I was waiting for was Quentin Groves." - The Archives

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78421-chris-longs-change-direction-athletic-ability-impressive-page7.html#post812870
"I'm still not sure why you all think Groves will be available if we trade down. For example, if Gholston is gone at #6, I don't think we should hesitate to choose Groves at #7." - mgteich

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78421-chris-longs-change-direction-athletic-ability-impressive.html#post811956
"I've already talked about how much I like Groves (been talking about him for months), so you don't have to win me over. Trading down and taking Groves has been among my favorite options, too." - sebman2112

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81526-im-seeing-lot-ty-warren-quentin-groves.html#post870376
"Groves has the athletic ability of Gaines Adams. That kind of blinding quickness off the edge." - Pony Express

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/264607-2008-lost-pick.html#post1473975
"The loss of Groves is a huge hole in our pass rush." - Ochmed Jones

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/79673-gholston-vs-groves.html#post837647
The title says it all

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81727-bleh-draft-page2.html#post874271
"I am very disapointed that the Pats didn't make a move for Quentin Groves in the second round." - The Archives

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78319-gholston-will-gone-before-7-a-page4.html#post810415
"I don't have a Big issue with Gholston, but, I believe the BEST Linebacker Prospect (we the fans are sleeping on) is Quentin Groves at Auburn. He's 6' 4" 254 and runs a 4.46 40 and is a AD clone who is a pass rush specialists who has played OLB and ILB." - PatsandTrojans55

rofl damn that was a lot of work rofl

 

[mcsully]

With the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, a few gems from this board in discussions about Groves as a draft prospect two years ago.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/79151-if-belichick-took-otah-would-you-angry.html#post826095
"Or you bring in a difference maker on defense like a Vernon Gholston or my choice is turning more into quentin Groves." - Crazyeechrispats1

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81314-ochmeds-first-mock.html#post866903
"I personally like Gholston, but I'd be very happy to get Groves later instead." - DocE

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81783-bb-pats-fans-here-linebackers-you-been-waiting.html#post875702
"No, the LB I was waiting for was Quentin Groves." - The Archives

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78421-chris-longs-change-direction-athletic-ability-impressive-page7.html#post812870
"I'm still not sure why you all think Groves will be available if we trade down. For example, if Gholston is gone at #6, I don't think we should hesitate to choose Groves at #7." - mgteich

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78421-chris-longs-change-direction-athletic-ability-impressive.html#post811956
"I've already talked about how much I like Groves (been talking about him for months), so you don't have to win me over. Trading down and taking Groves has been among my favorite options, too." - sebman2112

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81526-im-seeing-lot-ty-warren-quentin-groves.html#post870376
"Groves has the athletic ability of Gaines Adams. That kind of blinding quickness off the edge." - Pony Express

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/264607-2008-lost-pick.html#post1473975
"The loss of Groves is a huge hole in our pass rush." - Ochmed Jones

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/79673-gholston-vs-groves.html#post837647
The title says it all

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/81727-bleh-draft-page2.html#post874271
"I am very disapointed that the Pats didn't make a move for Quentin Groves in the second round." - The Archives

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/78319-gholston-will-gone-before-7-a-page4.html#post810415
"I don't have a Big issue with Gholston, but, I believe the BEST Linebacker Prospect (we the fans are sleeping on) is Quentin Groves at Auburn. He's 6' 4" 254 and runs a 4.46 40 and is a AD clone who is a pass rush specialists who has played OLB and ILB." - PatsandTrojans55

Classic

Of course I'm sure I'm in there one way or another..

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I fully admit that I was a big Groves fan. But right before that draft, weird vague rumors started circulating about him. I remember an interview with one draft expert who was asked to predict a big bust of the draft, and he named Groves. When asked why, he got all mysterious and made it sound like it was something he really shouldn't talk about. :confused2:

Didn't he have a heart condition?

I remember really liking him as well, and was disappointed that he didn't do a lot. I wanted him and Avril, and disappointed we ended up with neither. I still like Avril a lot, but I don't think either one really fit our scheme.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Not to fray from the topic but found this archived thread before the 2008 draft

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...-schefter-groves-will-biggest-bust-draft.html

This is why guys like Schefter know thier stuff

 

[Christopher Patriot]

Wow that gives me shudders about the Gholston Comment i'm Crayzeechris on there scary.

 

[jeffbiologist]

You cant swing a dead cat without hitting a OLB bust. Drafting one high has its risks, and sometimes(Vrabel)they can be rehabbed. Its also the reason that they get so much $$ in FA, no way was Thomas worth what he got(or Colvin for that matter)but he was the best available...