Patriots release Kevin O'Connell

[jcdavey]

thigpen looked damn good at times last year

i'd bet it's him or croyle

 

[mgteich]

Re: Koc released!

I agree.......

I thought Hoyer has looked better than O'Connell.

 

[BritPat]

thigpen looked damn good at times last year

i'd bet it's him or croyle

Herm and Chan Gailey actually did a really good job with Thigpen last year, they tore up the offense and installed a dumbed down version of the spread, which Thigpen ran very well. They added more complex pieces as the season wore on and he looked a very capable QB at season's end.

 

[PatsFan37]

Re: Koc released!

Sorry if this has already been said:
Why release KOC now? By himself (and not with the required 4 others)?

Maybe this is part 1 of a 2-part announcement and we're about to hear the signing of a different QB.

 

[jagkho]

I see a lot of posts talking about O'Connell being a 3rd round pick and what a shame about that.

I dont think that BB gives any concern to where a guy is drafted in regards to evaluating him. O'Connell was a 3rd round pick, so what? I think BB looks at what the guy does in practice and in the games and makes his decisions based on that.

In fact, if there were two guys that were battling for one spot, and only one could make it, BB would probably go with the lower round pick since that guy would likely have a lower salary.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I see a lot of posts talking about O'Connell being a 3rd round pick and what a shame about that.

I dont think that BB gives any concern to where a guy is drafted in regards to evaluating him. O'Connell was a 3rd round pick, so what? I think BB looks at what the guy does in practice and in the games and makes his decisions based on that.

In fact, if there were two guys that were battling for one spot, and only one could make it, BB would probably go with the lower round pick since that guy would likely have a lower salary.

Except that O'Connell still has $471K in remaining signing bonus that will reduce the cap, not increase it.

 

[thewaylifeshouldbe]

thigpen looked damn good at times last year

i'd bet it's him or croyle

That one doesn't make much sense to me. If we were looking to do a trade wouldn't we have made KOC part of the deal?

For arguments sake, if the Jag's were offering a 5th, couldn't we trump their offer with a 5th and KOC since he was looking at a cut anyway?

 

[Deus Irae]

thigpen looked damn good at times last year

i'd bet it's him or croyle

Pioli is trying to get rid of Thigpen. That, combined with the reality that he's a bad quarterback, should be enough to make people understand.

 

[unoriginal]

Re: Koc released!

It's fair to say that whichever scout thought this guy was good has been "spoken to". One of the things I remember reading at the time of his being drafted was that his accuracy wasn't great. I assumed the reports were wrong, because he had been drafted in the 3rd round.

Very surprising stuff.

I assume the scout covering San Diego State is the same one covering USC. Obviously we lost a lot of insight with Matt Russell, the scout who reported on Cassel.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Pioli is trying to get rid of Thigpen. That, combined with the reality that he's a bad quarterback, should be enough to make people understand.

Oh you hopeless dreamer...

They probably put more stock in what is said on KC message boards where before last night Thigpen still had a small but vocal support group...

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Koc released!

Yes, it is. I thought he looked absolutely terrible, but I'm shocked they didn't give him another year. I wonder if there is something behind the scenes (attitude or off-field) in addition to his performance. BB was more patient with Cassel and Gutierrez, so I wonder if KOC had some specific issue that made the team lose patience and give up on him early.

That's the problem with second guessing the front office. They make decisions based heavily on how a guy responds to coaching and if he is improving or not, and all the things that go on in meetings and practices.

The best we can do is make decisions based on what we see on TV, making judgements based on a couple games. And half the time the "great" play or "lousy" play had less to due with the player being evaluated than the scheme or someone else not doing his job or doing an outstanding supporting job.

And that is the "good" posters here. There are a lot of maroons who made decisions based on one or two plays. Cut Woods because he didn't fall on the fumble two years ago. Edelman ran a punt back - he's awesome.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Koc released!

.......think for a moment......this may not be about KOC.If it's Brady,then they're looking for a number ONE QB,not a back-up.
If so,I'm thinking Jay Feeley or Jeff Garcia.

Okay, if you are going to sign a better QB, why cut anyone until you sign the guy. And if you do cut a QB, why KOC and not Hoyer?

That had to mean they see more fuiture in Hoyer than KOC. That is the astounding part.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: Koc released!

Okay, if you are going to sign a better QB, why cut anyone until you sign the guy. And if you do cut a QB, why KOC and not Hoyer?

That had to mean they see more fuiture in Hoyer than KOC. That is the astounding part.

Heck, for that matter, why cut ANYONE today? IIRC, the Patriots aren't even at 80 players, and they don't have to be at 75 until Tuesday.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Let the Bledsoe rumors begin :rocker:

 

[Liverpool_Patriot]

According to Jason La Canfora, we are expressing interest in AJ Feeley.
NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Pats considering adding a veteran backup QB

 

[apple strudel]

Re: Koc released!

Heck, for that matter, why cut ANYONE today? IIRC, the Patriots aren't even at 80 players, and they don't have to be at 75 until Tuesday.

Probably because it was clear to the staff that he wasn't going to work out and wasn't any better than Walter or Hoyer. Cut your losses and move on.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Koc released!

Wheatley was coming on last season before his injury and Crable is recovering from season ending injury. I wouldn't go bemoaning that draft right now.

Obviously you do not understand the rules around here.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: Koc released!

Obviously you do not understand the rules around here.

Yes. Anything less than a starter is a wasted pick.

 

[apple strudel]

According to Jason La Canfora, we are expressing interest in AJ Feeley.
NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Pats considering adding a veteran backup QB

If we were going to trade for a quarterback wouldn't we have sat tight with KOC until we acquired one? Why tip your hand? At the risk of having somebody dredge this post up in 2 months, I suspect we'll go into the season with Walter and Hoyer. Plus Feely's a WC guy.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Koc released!

It could be they simply made a decision to go with 2 QBs only on the roster and one on the PS and Walter is the more experienced, better option right now as #2. By releasing O'Connell now, you may dupe other teams into thinking the Pats are even more down on him than they really are (as opposed to releasing him on the final cut) and perhaps you could sneak him onto the PS still.

Just a thought.

J D Sal

Why would he sign with our practice squad? If some team cut me and tossed my nice salary into the toilet, you think I'd help them out by agreeing to practice with them for $5000 a week? I'd sign with anyone else BUT them.