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How would feel if M. Vick joint the PATs

  1. I have no problem if that happens

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  2. I would be disappointed but still be a loyal PATs fan

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  3. I would be very disappointed and may not support the PATs.

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  1. JR4

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    Just wondering how fans here feel about Vick joining the PATs.
    How you feel if Vick joined the PATs?
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    Nahhhhhhhhhh, I like Vick's ability but I just dont see him here.
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    Cant say I want him but I wouldn't have a problem if it happened.

    In fact if BB did it I would be excited but I doubt he wants the side show.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I don't want him, but, as others have said here, I root for the laundry.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I am a season ticket holder of 16 years and would seriously consider giving them up if that scumbag ever donned a Patriots uniform.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    Come on now. Some of you want a player who got his kicks

    out of electrocuting helpless dogs?
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I will not support any team that has Vick wearing the jersey.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    It won't happen for the two reasons listed below, but if it did, I personally would have no problem with it it because:

    1) Belichick might know football better than lurker1965
    2) Kraft might know the business side better than lurker1965.:)

    That said, it won't happen because:
    1) Vick was not that good before his incarceration and suspension.
    2) No matter what he does, he comes with protestors and bad publicity. All publicity is good publicity if you are an un-established business like a UFL team. An established business, like a NFL team, is different.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I do not care, but know it will never happen...
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    Who said we want him? We said we'd tolerate him.

    So you do not think a guy who paid his debt to society should get a second chance?

    Do you want O.J. Simpson kicked out of the Hall of Fame (Yes, he was convicted of causing the wrongful death of Ron Goldman* in civil court.)

    *Whatever legalese means murder in a civil trial. It might be Latin.
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    :deadhorse:
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I posted this in the vick thread which seems to have lost its steam. But I was curious so I will see what you guys think in here.


    Am I wrong about this? (no later than week 6 compared to a straight sentance of say 4 games)


    It seems to me that the Team that plans on signing him now will have to do so without knowing exactly how much they will pay him.

    You dont pay a suspended player right?

    So if he is back week 1 he gets full pay if he is back week 5 he only gets 3/4. and basically an owner wont know what he is to pay to the player.


    I believe this has no cap implications because you have to fit the full amount under the cap.

    any thoughts?
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    He's paid his debt to "society" but never will be able to the dogs and people that were harmed by him.

    I don't mind him getting a second chance, but just not in a position that puts him in the limelight as a potential celebrity. Let him find another line of work and have a second chance from that position in society.

    For what it's worth, the latest research indicates that dogs experience emotion at about 80% of the depth that people do. So imagine if he'd done the same thing he did to those dogs to people? Would we be only a bit more outraged, and a bit less forgiving?
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    The guy spent years in jail and paid his due,Thats more than I could say for someone like Pacman for example who has yet to serve anything for his illegal activities.

    All humans make mistakes and this was one,albeit a big one - If Jesus forgave him then why wouldn't I?

    Let him play whether its here or anywhere and I have no problem with that - My biggest concern would be the MAJORITY of fans may get mad and that would hurt the fan base.
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    are you talking about people fighting? Boxing, UFC

    In all seriousness though I think people would be less enraged if it were people than dogs just the way some idiots are out there.

    His sentance would have been worse but I think the public would have paid less attention.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    He didn't do those things to people. It's not an equivalent.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    If Vick was the owner of a warehouse where he had hired guys to kidnap and kill people in that secret hideout and was caught of course he would be spending multiple life sentences in jail - But in the way society is run,Dogs do not and will never hold the seriousness that killing a human being will and thats the difference here ... Society by way of court law makes the rules and a dog killer will NEVER spend life in prison so comparing the two crimes is irrelevant
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    No. I don't want him. But of course I'd still support the Pats if we got him.

    I don't think it's going to happen though. I highly doubt someone like Kraft would want Vick associated with the Pats. Besides, Vick is a starter. You're not going to bring in Vick to run the wildcat or something a few plays a game. He's going to go to a team that needs a QB. Fortunatly for us we have a franchise QB and really don't need Vick.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I agree with your position.

    He paid the price. He is forgiven. No problem. But has he changed?
    Does he now see and feel what he did was a horrible thing?
    I do not know. If we could know the man's heart then the decision is
    a lot easier.
    I am not God neither is anyone here.
    M. Vick can do a lot of other things and make a lot of money.

    When a player/person gets a role that puts him in the position that people,
    especially young people, look up to her/him then there is an unwritten rule that such a person must portray the best of standards.
    If that trust is violated then that person should be forgive but should
    not assume such a role again in their life time.
    It should be voluntary action from feeling such remorse.
    Some TV evangelist should never have preached again.
    They violate a trust which is not easily made right again.

    No to Vick as a Patriot.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I don't know exactly how it would all work out, but I know that if he came I would try to be as optimistic as possible...I am sure he would fit in one way or another...
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    Vick will NEVER be a starter on any team FOR NOW - the team that signs him will slowly bring him into their offense while cutting back on the limelight he will surely bring - By next season we could see Vick as a starter but this year he holds a clipboard and will most likely only play in sub packages and wacky formations like the Wildcat,Besides no team will start a QB who has been out of the league for 2 years.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    UFL teams included in that prediction?:D
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    Forget the whole dog issue thing, I would be upset where we have so many high rookie draft picks and questions at other positions that the Pats would waste a roster spot on a gimmick QB who might see a handful of plays during the game. It would also screw up the gameday roster since they would most likely have to activate both Vick and O'Connell since O'Connell fits the system better and if Brady went down for a few series would be the better option at QB.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    It depends on what ULF team would sign him,If its a team with an expected starter like Losman,Then no, he will still sit
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    You wonder if Vick would be more of a WR than a RB on this team if used in ways other than some Wildcat type design

    If we signed Vick than Galloway would probably be gone..or Lewis

    People who think Vick would just sit on the sidelines as a #2 QB on this team are crazy,His role as a QB on this team would be an afterthough,He would never be one here unless it was an emergency like last year and even then O'Connell would have the edge.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    The prison system is intended to rehabilitate convicts. I have enough trust in our country's justice system to say that Vick did his time (more time than he should have; Donte Stallworth gets a month for killing a human being and Vick gets a couple years for some dogs?), and has served his punishment.

    I also recognize that football players aren't saints and it really doesn't matter what the guy I watch throw a ball around on Sundays has done in his life.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I wouldn't want him it would be a distraction, a circus. If people think TO in Buffalo would be bad this would be worse. IMO
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    Micheal Vick deserves another chance, but like the media says, not with us , with some low level team, and slowly work his way up to what his career was in Atlanta. Doubt he'll be positioned at QB, probably at WR.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    If he want to play running back sure.

    If BB benches Brady to have him play QB, then I am gonna become a Chiefs fan, becuase it means Belichick has gone plum loco, and the real brains of the opperation for the three SB wins was Scott and Bill was just a figure head.
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    Re: a M.Vick Poll

    I doubt he would come here but the fact is we all said Dillon would be a distraction and the same with Moss. There would be no "Media Circus" cause BB would simply lock Vick down during the public sessions and tell him if he talks hes gone
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