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No suprises here, expect to hear the same from Brady. If the team/BB wasn't behind him, he wouldn't have been starting
I wish more people realized this.
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Are you trying to insinuate that was the wrong thing to do?
How do you feel bad for a guy who played like he played today?
He did not look motivated to play at all,
he didnt want to be on the field.
The usual conversations with Brady inbetween possessions were not there.
He did not run his routes hard and gave up on plays that he was not involved in
, even Gamble said he could tell when the ball wasnt going to Moss by the way he got off the line of scrimmage.
As a fan how can you cheer for a guy who gave an effort like he did today?
So you think Kevin Faulk is lying to cover up for his friend?
I didn't try to insinuate anything. You made a comment and I responded to it. The reality is that it was Thomas, not Moss, who took the brunt of the criticism this past week over being tardy, and that was both before AND after he had his interview. Burgess did an interview as well, but Moss declined. That's just the way it is, without any need for insinuation.
He isnt going to talk bad about a teammate, that would just cause problems in the locker room and be very unprofessional. Faulk is one of the most professional players in the game and will always have his teammates back no matter what and never say anything negative about someone
I didn't hear the media say negative things about AdT. The media spun it as a negative of BB when it came to AdT. Things written about Moss are usually about him packing it in, or dogging it, or quitting on his team etc...
Ok, so you didn't listen to, or read, any media this week, then and are just tossing this out as a question, right?
Because the media was all over Thomas for this stuff, as thread after thread on this site illustrated.
He isnt going to talk bad about a teammate, that would just cause problems in the locker room and be very unprofessional. Faulk is one of the most professional players in the game and will always have his teammates back no matter what and never say anything negative about someone
Because he's been unrightfully dogged on by the media virtually his entire career.
He never LOOKS motivated, he never LOOKS like he's running full speed. I don't care if you study psychology for your entire life, what he LOOKS like to you on the TV feed means absolute jack **** to the reality of the situation.
Except twice on the TV feed we saw Brady say what seemed like comforting words to him and give him a pat. Also there was a shot of them sitting side by side talking. But yeah, let's judge the TV feed and determine what level of motivation Moss had.
Yea Gamble's word is worth more than Kevin Faulk's, good one. It's a damn shame that Gamble and the Panthers couldn't do a damn thing with the rest of our offense even when they KNEW Moss wasn't a threat. I'll bet that If Moss didn't play at all, our offense would have struggled a little bit more.
Because I don't fall into the trap of the media and their power to create personas for guys that do NOT make a habbit of talking to them. This is the same media that wants you to think that BB is an ego-driven self-righteous pompous a-hole that cares about no one but himself. I also think it's only natural that players will have bad days from time to time.
You trully are ignorant, and I guess it really is true; ignorance is bliss. Find me one teammate of Moss, now or in the past that has said a negative thing about him. AdT's past teammate had a negative thing to say about him, but every teammate of Moss has always had glowing things to say about him.
Faulk basically told you how it is, and you refuse to believe it. So Faulk is lying because it doesn't follow what YOU want to believe. Classic, it's become the norm around here unfortunately
Was he dogged on by the media in '07? He is not being dogged on by the media, they report and write what they see. They are not homer's like yourself standing up for your favorite player.
Does the Randy Moss that you have been watching on the field the past few weeks look motivated to you? You dont have to study pyschology to see this. On Bradys INT did he make that hard cut to the sideline like he usually does? Last week did he make any effort to try and prevent the defender from intercepting the ball in the end zone? It seems like lately Moss has shyed away from contact, hense the reason for the fumble and the drop today.
Brady even mentioned in his press conference that he was trying to cheer Moss up and keep him motivated. He sees that he is down and frustrated and he is trying cheer him up. The old Moss would be next to Welker and Brady on the bench talking and pumping eachother up for the next drive.
I think Gamble's word is worth more than Faulk's he was the one covering him the whole game. He can tell whether Moss gave his full effort or not. He can tell just how hard Moss made his cuts and got off the ball. I will say that Moss' presence does make the team better especially Wes Welker. He takes 2 or 3 defenders out of the picture and leave guys like Welker to get the one on one coverage.
Bad day from time to time is one thing. Hes had 11 receptions in his last 4 games. That isnt exactly Moss like numbers. You have to be blind to not see that Moss is frustrated and not giving his best effort out there.
“When he said he plays when he wants to play, it had all kinds of bad implications.”
—Former teammate Todd Steussie
There you go, a teammate of Moss saying something negative about him.
Moss is a great player and has unbelievable amounts of talent, but the thing is he only uses this talent when he wants to. He hasnt been getting the ball as much as he would have liked lately, which is causing him to get frustrated and not play to his full potential. I am a Randy Moss fan, but I am just seeing it how it is. He is not giving 100% effort on the field, and it doesnt take a genious to see that.
Was he dogged on by the media in '07? He is not being dogged on by the media, they report and write what they see. They are not homer's like yourself standing up for your favorite player.
He's not my favorite player, and the media are idiots. They don't report on what they see, they assume and write their dumb opinions as facts.
"shyed away from contact". LOL. First he has NEVER been a physical receiver and I dont' consider putting his shoulder into a defender after an overthrown ball as shying away from contact.
There is NO old and new Moss. Moss is, and always has been Moss and he's an emotional guy. That doesn't mean he wasn't TRYING. Maybe his focus wasn't where it needed to be, but he's not the only one especially this season.
Yea Gamble's team didn't just lose 20-10. Gamble is a smart guy who is used to covering Moss and knows Moss' tendencies. You sound very foolish right now.
He entered the game #2 in the entire NFL in receiving yards. He has 2 TDs in those 11 receptions and a 16.6 YPC in those 11 receptions. To expect monster games from him every single week is unreasonable. It's also not like the ENTIRE offense has not been struggling. Brady has also missed a few throws. The OL hasn't been blocking well and most of Moss' routes take longer to develop.
I take issue with the fact that you and others believe he isn't trying or is mailing it in etc... Maybe his focus wasn't sharp and wasn't on his A game today, but that is NOT the same as mailing it in or dogging it. Everyone has those days, but it gets blown out of proportion when it happens to Moss.
You lose all credibility with this opening remark. Yes, he was incredibly dogged by the media in 07. The whole "Suprise Cut" story on final cutdown day, the thing with that woman, Jaworski claiming Moss was "dogging it" in a season where he broke the TD record.
You don't want to like Moss. You most likely grudginly cheered for him in 07, and wanted him off the team when he was accused of "dogging it" last year, and now you're buying into the hoopla again.
I think Moss, much like our head coach, has a bad reputation because of his disdain for the media. That fuels the fans, and you start getting people like yourself who judge him even though they know nothing about him and have no frame of reference because of how little Moss has revealed his true self.
I am also amazed by how little people learned after Spygate and Liegate. Just because someone writes it on a website or in a newspaper does NOT make it factual. It boggles the mind. If you want to continue to believe the Felger's, Borges', and ESPN types; I truly feel sorry for you. I, personally, will instead believe the actions and words of Tom Brady, Kevil Faulk, and Bill Belichick. When THEY say Randy Moss is dogging it, then I will believe it.
What the hell planet do you live on? That is a simple fact, that overplayed quote about Moss playing when he wants to (which has ALWAYS been taken way out of context) had bad IMPLICATIONS. And the media ran with it, and you have bought it or are just being really stubborn and pretending to believe it.
Funny that's the best you could find (which is not negative of Moss), yet still believe the nonsense you spout.
You've lost all credibility going back with this ridiculous out of context play when he wants to crap. Part of his talent is his smarts, he's not all run straight go up and grab a ball. He's a very smart football player. His on field demeanor doesn't change whether he's burning defenders for long TDs or struggling to get a reception.
I am a big Randy Moss fan, but I am going to be on him when I see that he is not giving the effort that he is capable of giving. He has a bad repuation because of his past and only playing hard when he wants to. He changed that in his 1st 2 years here but I think its hard to ignore the fact tha the is going back to his old ways. I think he can easily get past this and get back to the Randy Moss we have seen in the past 2 years.
Tom Brady, Kevin Faulk or BB will never say that their teammate is dogging it. They are all professionals and would never say anything bad about a teammate or one of their players. I feel sorry for you that you believe that one of them would ever say something like that.
I want to hear your side, what has been up with Moss the past few weeks? 3 catches in 2 games? That isnt the normal Randy Moss