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    I've always been a Hobbs supporter. I know he's had his moments of giving up some big plays, but I will always stand by my belief that he is a great number 2, and serviceable number 1 corner in the NFL. As we all know watching games on tv it's very tough to watch how well (or poorly) your defensive backs are playing. Today was my annual one game that I went to, and as I recently traded for Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team, and had him playing in my title game, I paid close attention to him during the game. Now, I will say I have no idea who was on him on his td, as two of the ppl I went with had to drive 90 miles back home in the weather, so we left early (first time ever in a regular season game leaving early). But, Hobbs was ALL OVER Fitzy all day long. An absolute outstanding effort put in by Ellis today going up against one of the best receivers in the game.
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    He gave up every TD by the Cardinals today!

    ;)
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    He just needs to stop celebrating when he makes routine plays or when recievers drop balls.

    Drives me crazy
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    I like Hobbs very much but how many plays more than 20 yards has he given up this year? Where does he rank among NFL CBs on this stat? If he does not learn better ball skills with his back to the QB he may not even be a #2. He is behind Willhite already and Willhite was behind Wheatley before he got hurt.
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    Behind Wilhite?!? By who's declaration?
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    This. My friends and I do the Ellis-Dance on Sundays when completing routine plays in the house (successfully getting a beer, answering the phone, etc.) It gets funner the more we drink.
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    A+? He got smoked for a long touchdown and couldn't catch Fitzgerald down the sideline.
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    What?!?!? Hobbs is and has been the #1 RCB for quite a while now. Just because someone else is playing LCB doesn't mean that Hobbs is "behind" them.
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    Hobbs made a nice play on that interception, but i'm still not convinced he's even a "serviceable" #1. To be honest, i dont even like him as a #2. I think he'd be good as a #3 corner ideally and keep him returning kicks.

    Until Hobbs makes a game changing play when it matters(On Defense) i'll keep questioning his skill as a CB. Until then, he'll always be Mr. Fall Down to me...
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    He covers better than Hobbs, particularly the long ball, where Hobbs is consistently toast. Are you watching? Maybe someone with better search skills than I possess can tell us where Hobbs ranks on long passes allowed. I am happy to let objective evidence be the arbiter, even though the RCB has the tougher job.
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    Hobbs remains unappreciated by the dilletant fans who don't really understand the game. He's a decent NFL starting corner back and a very good KR.
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    I dont think i'm any less of a fan because i tell the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts. I'm a die hard Pats fans and followed them through the LEAN years so i have no problem taking issues when there are some. Its kind of scary to think that even if Brady never got hurt, the D would still have been dissapointing. The fact is, Hobbs MAY be a decent CB, but he's our #1 CB and #1 CBs should be better than "decent". Hopefully through FA or the Draft we somehow improve our #1 from "decent" to very good or great.
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    This is subjective assertion and yours is no better than mine. As I have said, let's see some facts to back it up. I propose that Hobbs is awful with his back to the ball and gives up a lions share of big plays. The facts will either confirm or refute this asssertion.
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    Deltha O'Neal...... benched
    Wilhite..... left on inactive squad
    Hobbs...... #1 CB all season


    Those facts seem to be pretty objective from a fan standpoint.
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    Historical facts. You are living in the past. Wilhite was a rooking whose trajectory is sharply increasing and who now starts. Hobbs has great attitude, great on run support, good closing on short routes, and lacks the hip swivel to turn and run deep with NFL receivers. But never mind if some players are off limits to criticism.
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    Count me as someone who has appreciated Hobbs' play over the last couple of seasons. Many people on this board have been hard on him. I think he was a terrific third round pick and has contributed a lot. Hope he has a long future with the team.
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    Don't mind the kid enjoying himself but the dance after his pick looked really camp. He needs to stop that one for sure..

    I like Hobbs, he hussles at 200% all the time and is a solid player in a very tough posistion. He has his flaws but who doesn't? If Hobbs were to leave there would be no shortage of teams wanting to pick him up.
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    Overall Hobbs has been solid all year. The way it looks now I'd be more than happy with a Hobbs/Wilhite/and healthy-Wheatley rotation next season.
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    Okay, so when you said that he IS "behind' Willhite and Wheatley, you didn't mean in any kind of official depth-chart type of way... you meant in your opinion? Sorry, you made it sound like he was officially listed below those two on the depth chart. And yes, I am watching. I see a lot from Hobbs I don't like from time to time.

    How so? I could be wr-wr-wr-mistaken, but I believed the LCB is the one that lines up against the Z receiver, typically the best receiver on the opposing offense. However, in the Patriots defense, that doesn't mean the LCB is the #1 and the RCB is the #2, since Belichick doesn't have his DBs switch sides very often.
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    Hobbs is still the team's #1 corner. Your argument is still wrong. It has nothing to do with being off limits to criticism and everything to do with your criticism being inaccurate, since he's not behind Wilhite as you asserted.
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    Hobbs was excellent today. Fitzgerald is an incredible receiver and Ellis pretty much shut him down today. IMO the long pass looked like a blown coverage where Slater was supposed to be over the top. It did not look like man as much as a trail technique on the WR but the safety never got over.
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    Hobbs gave up a 70+ yd TD pass when the Cards offense were basically giving up and Lienart was the QB. Fitzgerald isn't known as a blazing speed type of WR but still managed to get by Hobbs and outran him.

    Also, Hobbs celebrating when the receiver drops the ball and NOT because of anything Hobbs did to prevent the completion is funny on so many levels.

    The guy is a good kickoff returner.
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    Wilhite wasn't inactive. And if he was, we sure pulled a fast one on the Cards b/c he got a tackle and everything!
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    I wasn't claiming that he was inactive for today's game, just that he's been inactive this season. The poster's argument was that Hobbs is behind him, and I was pointing out some obvious facts.
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    Didnt you get the memo? You're not allowed to like Hobbs in this forum. :rolleyes:


    Although, I wouldnt give Hobbs an a+, I would say an A-, or B+ would be fine. He was covering Fitzgerald, who is one of the best in the league. No matter what the grade, I'm on Hobbs' side.......oh, but Ellis, stop dancing :D
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    A+, im puking in my mouth as this is written... loved it when he got beat for 75yds....
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    That does drive me friggin' bonkers.
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