Why is it when you guys compare Manning and Brady you always take Manning's superiour offense into account, but you always dismiss it when anyone points out that Brady had a much better overall team than Manning until recently?
Brady had a pretty good, maybe even great, D during his SB run. Even last year they were one of the top D's in the league. The Colts D couldn't stop crap until 2006 playoffs.
Brady is a great QB, but if you put Manning on those Pats teams and Brady on the Colts the # of rings would flip flop.
As others have pointed out Manning basically sat out two games in 2004 when he set the TD record, Brady threw what 80 or so more passes than Manning when he set the record? Just like Moss breaking Rice's record: Moss took 3 more games to do it.
And as far as Manning "throwing his teamates under the bus" during that press conference, grow up. He was repeatedly asked about the offensive line screwing up, which they did, and all he said was "we had some protection problems". Yeah, what a bad teammate. Stating the obvious. He could have just said no comment I guess but you make such a big deal out of it.
You want to talk about being a baby, how about the stuff BB did after the SB last year? I know this is a Pats board so you guys can't admit it, but that was some first class sore-loser crap right there.
Manning and Brady are both great QBs. But you have to put championships in context. You talk about Montana and Marino, and how Montana has more rings while Marino had the numbers? Like that makes Montana a better QB?
Yeah, but Marino never played on a team anywhere near as talented as Montana. One guy, even a QB, can only do so much. And championships in a team sport like football doesn't make you a better player. Trent Dilfer has more championships than Tarkenton, Marino, Moon, Esiason, Archie Manning, Randal Cunningham, and many other great NFL QB's combined, but he's certainly not better than any of those guys.
Troy Aikman has as many rings as Brady, but Brady is obviously a much better QB. Terry Bradshaw has more rings than Brady, but Brady is a better QB than Bradshaw. I know I'm pissing in the wind here because you are all Pats homers, but Brady isn't the greatest QB ever, he's in the argument, but so are a lot of other QB's.
And as far as choking in the playoffs goes, Brady has now choked 3 straight seasons. The Broncos, the AFC championship game, and of course in the SB. Remember when he scoffed at Plaxico for saying they'd only score 17 points? Plaxico overrated them a bit.