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Sorry @archstanton543 , I wasn't saying that was my standpoint, but the standpoint of the people who said Mac was "below average."Because if we didn't win, it's below average.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Sorry @archstanton543 , I wasn't saying that was my standpoint, but the standpoint of the people who said Mac was "below average."Because if we didn't win, it's below average.
PFF had it the sixth best of the 1st week.I still don't get how a 3 TD 300+ yard performance is "below average".
I still don't get how a 3 TD 300+ yard performance is "below average".
For some folks, words mean whatever they choose them to mean.PFF had it the sixth best of the 1st week.
By DYAR he was 7th and #1 in red zone DYARPFF had it the sixth best of the 1st week.
I still don't get how a 3 TD 300+ yard performance is "below average".
Right ️, Mac had a better day throwing the ball than Allen, Burrow and hurts.. all who have elite WRs.. to have 300 plus yards passing with no elite WRs is impressive for any QB.I still don't get how a 3 TD 300+ yard performance is "below average".
I still don't get how a 3 TD 300+ yard performance is "below average".
It's a lot easier to dominate college competition.Care to compare Mac to Tua at Alabama? Almost an A/B test, and Mac at least held his own.
You’re so desperate to tell us “Mac sucks” you’re reaching.
Points
How you get them is irrelevant
The NEP have won Super Bowls scoring points on STs and defensively. How you get them as long as you win is irrelevant.Points are the bottom line, correct.
That is incorrect. If the defense scores TWO TDs off turnovers and the offense kicks 2 FGs to get to 20 points, did your offense have a good day? Context still matters.
In the last game, the Patriots offense got 300 yards through the air but only 5.8 YPA. That aerial game isn't as good as the yardage 'totals' make it look. It was struggling.
Likewise our two lead backs only had 54 yards combined between the two of them. Meanwhile Rhamondre Stevenson only got his 25 yards rushing on a paltry 2.1 YPC.
I get it, he was a beast last year. But this is a brand new season and there's no excusing how BAD our running game was last week against the Eagles!
316 yards passing is the fourth most passing yards in the NFL.You said that phrase yourself. Not me. All I cite are the facts. And 5.8 YPA is nothing to write home about.
In fact that's good for 28th in the NFL among starting QBs.
You can make all the excuses you want. In the real world results matter. That's the bottom line.
It's a lot easier to dominate college competition.
The Pros is a whole different animal as the level of athleticism and skills jumps up to a whole new level.
So far Mac Jones has not elevated his game to match Tua in the pros and that's what counts.
I'm not saying Mac Jones is a lost cause by any means but he has failed to impress against strong NFL competition.
Not sure I agree. Take the 14 points we gifted the Iggles to start the game off the board and it looks a lot different. The two drives to start the comeback were about as good as anyone could ask for. Those were not giving away anything to the Eagles. Truth is, if we had even one more drive like that the outcome could’ve been very different. That’s the thing that makes me say Mac came up small. It’s not the last gasp failures, it’s letting things come down to desperation possessions. Two drives flashed how good this team can be. But where was that after halftime? It wasn’t all defense adjusting, a lot of it was poor execution and missed opportunities.Disagree... SF is the better team... does not take anything away from the eagles in saying so... but that's besides the point... the point is we saw what we need to measure up against and we are not there yet
The decision to pick up his fifth year option has already been made unless he completely implodes. At worst, Mac is a competent starting QB who puts in the work during the week, that's worth the 24 million or so the option will cost them. Now, in terms of an extension I agree he has a ton to prove, but they don't have to make a determination on that until March, 2026.
I think this is a really great point. The Pats are probably happy enough with Mac to realize they're not going to find anyone better for cheaper and Mac puts them in position enough to win. If it were today, they'd pick up the option. But whether they think he's the future is still a big question.
I expect that by the end of the season BB will know if Mac is QBotF. But I expect what he does is likelybto be the same whether or not he thinks Mac is that guy.Time runs out on moral victories. I agree. When does Mac's time run out on moral victories? I think you are jumping the gun. Every NFL QB needs 3 years before an initial judgement. Tua, Allen, and Hurts all grew significantly over their 3rd season in the league. Everyone loves Herbert but he has not won anything. We need to wait for the end of this season to draw conclusions on Mac.
the point is we can't overlook disasters like the first quarter... saying "we were good except for..." is hollow... If this team can play a solid 4 quarters of football, they can win... It just feels like forever and a day since we've played 4 solid, competitive quarters...Not sure I agree. Take the 14 points we gifted the Iggles to start the game off the board and it looks a lot different. The two drives to start the comeback were about as good as anyone could ask for. Those were not giving away anything to the Eagles. Truth is, if we had even one more drive like that the outcome could’ve been very different. That’s the thing that makes me say Mac came up small. It’s not the last gasp failures, it’s letting things come down to desperation possessions. Two drives flashed how good this team can be. But where was that after halftime? It wasn’t all defense adjusting, a lot of it was poor execution and missed opportunities.
That’s where I come down on it, missed opportunity. Moral victories are for losers who don’t know how to win. I’m not ready to consign this team to that category. Yet. Squish the Fish!
What we have is what he shows us.Yes, I think that's right, and to be honest, I get the argument, though I disagree with the timeline. It's really hard to win unless you have an elite QB. And those people don't think Mac will be one, so they want to try again. I think you need to see what we have with Mac this year and then make a decision on drafting another QB next year. But it's up to Mac to change their minds at this point.
Tua's injury history seems more relevant to why he has struggled to develop in the NFL.tua never elevated his game until he got Tyreek hill to pair with waddle...what a coincidence?