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Boston Herald said:
On sources that it believed to be credible

Name them, please for the love of god name them, you pathetic joke of a newspaper.
 
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The Herald is dead to me.
 
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Not sure what kind of game Pat Purcell thinks he's playing, but the apology, however splashy doesn't come close to cutting it. Like the team said in their statement, the numbers who see this or saw todays mid afternoon mid work week festivities in NY pale in comparison to the masses who were subjected to the rumor mongering, baseless accusation on the eve and day of a superbowl. Tomase is still reporting, not to mention on football and this very matter, and that is entirely unacceptable. There is also absolutely no explanation for how this happened, from him or his employer, and that is beyond unacceptable.

This was not some inadvertent oops...and to treat it as such is adding insult to injury.
 
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Looks like the pic on there with the lombardi trophy, will be the back page

it says ' Sorry Pats"

Too little to late for Belichick ,and Kraft I think.
Too late for them. How about Sorry Fans too. The last few months have been sh!t - thanks to them. There are some things that are beyond an apology and this is one.
 
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you either out the source or out the reporter.... your choice, herald...
 
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My first post ever on these boards and I chose this subject because of how strongly I feel about it. What John Tomase and the Herald did is inexcusable and should never be forgiven or forgotten by Patriot fans. Their apology comes across in my eyes as a joke, its almost as if they are daring Bob Kraft to sue them. Look at the story Tomase had earlier about Walsh "spying," their words not mine, on the walk through. I noticed in the past before spygate ever happened a anti-pats slant to a lot of their coverage of the team and Bill Belichick in particular. The Inside Slant gossip junk was constantly bashing Belichick for supposedly cheating on his wife and his personal relationships with women. Felger also likes to play the contrarian role and anyone who listened to Gerry Callahan on EEI this past season knows he's not a Pat's supporter either. Forget letting spygate die I want Bob Kraft to sue the newspaper out of business, I want him to sue John Tomase into homelessness, what they did deserves punishment and letting them get away with it invites others to commit similar acts of defamation in the future. Boycott the Herald. Don't visit the site, even to harass Tomase. Encourage everyone you know to boycott the Herald. They can't get away with this scott free its bad for journalism and sets a horrible precedent if they continue with business as usual.
 
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I love how all the media outlets ran with the Heralds story and were so short in their recognition of the Herald being the lead source for the walkthrough when the story was first broke. All of a sudden all these useless tools such as ESPN are pointing the finger. "Boston Herald!! Boston Herald!!! They were the ones that came up with the walkthrough!!! We were only going off of what they reported.!

As far as I'm concerned they can all go to hell and have a nice rest of their lives. No accountibility. 0,none. I remind myself that there are still some good writers like Reiss out there but they are becoming few and far between. It makes me wonder why some of these media hacks are pissed that more and more blogs are popping up with some success.
 
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As a reporter elsewhere, I believe the Herald either has to name the sources for lying to the paper or discipline Tomase for not communicating properly with the sources or with editors. Or discipline the editors involved.

When you agree to hold someone's name back, you do it even if you go to jail. But all bets are off if they lie. If the sources weren't sure of the info talking to Tomase, they should have told him or he should have understood the gray area and conveyed that to editors. If you're going to use unnamed sources, you better realize as a reporter that their extent of knowledge and your deal about holding the name back is very, very well understood. If editors knew there was no confirmation, then the editor who made the call probaby should be fired.

But somebody lied. That person needs to be outed or fired.

You keep an identity private because you gave your word and won't betray trust. If the source betrays you, you don't have that obligation anymore.

Side issue: a few on here are seizing on the change from a single source in the story to sources (plural) in the apology. On a story like this, The Herald likely talked to several people with varying degrees of knowledge (misinformation) about the situation. Somebody was the primary source telling them that the tape existed. But there may ne a number of partial confirming sources that gave info that fit the story. Someone (THE source) may have told Tomase there was a tape. Then a second person may have said...as a guess...he heard coaches talking about the tape, or a Patriots lawyer talking aboiut the tape or something like that. The second source adds credence to it but isn't strong enough to rely on.

There's also a real chance that the sources were honest about things they had misinformation about and Tomase was honest with editors and then editors made the call that a very gray and sketchy thing was good enough to run with. It's not as if Tomase has a long resume and has worked at a lot of high level papers to have a base of experience in situations like this to draw upon. Typically editors are more experienced than reporters and should be good guides. If an editor told him what to do, he'd probably go along. It takes a ton of balls and ego to tell the editor (your employer) that you're right and he's wrong and either refuse to do the story or insist your byline be pulled from it.

If that was the case, though, name the editors that made that call.
 
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Here was my reply to the Herald.

It wasn't that long ago that Dan Rather was unceremoniously kicked out for doing almost the exact same thing.

The writer of the original article should be told to resign. The Editor who allowed the article to be published should also be told to resign. What they did was irresponsible and no apology issued by this paper is enough.
This was the last article that I will read from the Herald. Your paper has become a joke. You let your best and brightest go and replaced them with mediocre talent who have to fabricate stories in a weak attempt to sell papers.
 
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One last thing. An apology doesn't cut in my book. Although I feel for Tomase in the sense that his family has been threatened etc, I do not condone that at all. I can't help but think he should be fired. He had a job to do and he failed. Regardless whether his source was wrong or not, ultimately Tomase is responsible for his source. Imo what Tomase did was just as bad as what Borges did. It's just the consequences were more catostrophic. He rolled the dice and crapped out. He traded his reputation and ability to report responsibly for a shot at a blockbuster story and national recognition.

It's a sad day for the Herald and they know it. They are hoping this will just go away and it will. I just don't think anyone will ever be able to look back at SB42 and not think of Tomase and the Herald though. I just don't see Robert Kraft being the kind of man that sues a paper into extinction. I'd love to see a civil suit for 750,000 dollars though:}
 
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At least they are apologizing... maybe they can suspend tomase for a week ( i know he deserves more but he probably has a family to care for)

Nope, anything short of firing for him (and probably his editor) is unacceptable. Yeah, it sucks for his family, but look at it this way. Go to work tomorrow and singlehandedly destroy the credibility of your employeer while pissing of 90% of his clients and see if they show any compassion for your family.

You'll be sacked and out on your ass in a heartbeat. Tomasse deserves nothing less.
 
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That actually makes it worse.

Apparently, they never talked to Walsh.

They got the info not even from a secondary source, but a tertiary one.

I think they got it from ColtsInsider.

That's despicable.

And they really deserve everything that's coming to them.

Wow. Irony thy name is YOUR POST.
 
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If multiple people don't lose their jobs over this, I don't see why the Patriots would not take this to court. My guess is that the Herald considers that a possibility, and I expect that Dumbasse and some other peasants will be looking for work soon.
 
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That was freakin' great, what's wrong with you people?

Do you think they're going to let us replay the Super bowl? Of course it's not enough, nothing would be.

Those bastards had to kiss the patriots ass in their own paper.
 
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What happened to the days when boston media sources were biased TOWARDS the home team?

Not from around here eh? CT doesn't count.

Boston sports media has always been adversarial.

Mind you, I wasn't here when Babe Ruth was itching in early world series.......
 
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I hate that picture. That was a crap-ass apology, and the picture just made it worse. I want to take that trophy and beat them with it.

Oh Heavens that quote just warmed my cold cold heart. Thanks
 
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F THEM!! :mad: They have been doing shoddy reporting for years. This time they went to far. The Herald can go to Hell. What they did was IRRESPONSIBLE!! My boycott will continue. Tomase needs to go. I don't trust a guy like that to report information about my team. :mad::mad:
 
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This is too little too late, the Herald shows signs of shoddy journalism and published the report based on what?? The reality is their shoddy journalism unleashed a shyt storm of protest that has lasted for the past 100+ days and our franchise has been denigrated across the print and spoken media..

Even after Goodell said there was no evidence, the storm continued... all because of this article..
 
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