Players turning on Mangini / Vilma injured (merged)

[Remix 6]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

Mangini: Hey 51..
Vilma: what coach
Mangini: your hurt okay?
Vilma:...what? Im as healthy as i ever been
Mangini: No..you have a knee injury
Vilma: WTF ..no i dont
Mangini: keep talking to media like that and you'll have a career ending injury okay?
Vilma: ***got..release me!

 

[carolinatony]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Hope they lose the rest of there games including the Fish.

 

[DefenseRules]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

Mangini: Hey 51..
Vilma: what coach
Mangini: your hurt okay?
Vilma:...what? Im as healthy as i ever been
Mangini: No..you have a knee injury
Vilma: WTF ..no i dont
Mangini: keep talking to media like that and you'll have a career ending injury okay?
Vilma: ***got..release me!

LOL!! That was a good one.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

It really has nothing to do with 3-4 vs. 4-3. It has to do with being a 1-gap defense vs. a 2-gap defense. Even when the Pats run a 4-3, they still 2-gap.

I agree with your point that 3-4 and 4-3 can either be 1-gap or 2-gap, but sometimes the Pats shoot the gaps playing 1-gap. I don't know about the Jets, but they could whichever they wanted to.

Vilma is more of a 1-gap type linebacker, better suited for a Chicago or Tampa or Indy type system. Switching to a 4-3 would do nothing as the Jets would still 2-gap.

Unless they don't. There is no law that they have to 2-gap. They can do it anyway they want.

 

[PromisedLand]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Hope they lose the rest of there games including the Fish.

I actually don't want them to get the #1 overall draft pick. Let them win a couple and finish 4-12 or 3-13.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

The Jets expressed interest in moving Vilma this off-season but a deal was never made. He's pretty over rated IMO and it looks like the Jets and Vilma will part ways this next off-season.

I also imagine some of the Jets players (particularly the receivers) are pushing for Clemens to get out there.

 

[bishbash]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

I was thinking more along these lines (apologies to M. Python):

Media: Bring out your injured!
[clang]
Bring out your injured!
[clang]
Manweenie: Here's one.
Vilma: I'm not injured!
Media: What?
Manweenie: Nothing -- just report him as injured.
Vilma: I'm not injured!
Media: Here -- he says he's not injured!
Manweenie: Yes, he is.
Vilma: I'm not!
Media: He isn't.
Manweenie: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
Vilma: I'm getting better!
Manweenie: No, you're not -- you're knee will be toast in a moment.
Media: Oh, I can't report on him like that -- it's against regulations.
Vilma: I don't want to go on the injured list!
Manweenie: Oh, don't be such a baby.
Media: I can't report him...
Vilma: I feel fine!
Manweenie: Oh, do us a favor...
Media: I can't.
Vilma: I think I'll go for a walk.
Manweenie: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there
something you can do?
Vilma: I feel happy... I feel happy.
[wham to the knees with a shovel]
Manweenie: Ah, thanks very much.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

More trouble in Jetsland

Vilma may be out for the year!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f..._jets_jonathan_vilma_may_be_out_for_year.html

 

[Remix 6]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

The Jets expressed interest in moving Vilma this off-season but a deal was never made. He's pretty over rated IMO and it looks like the Jets and Vilma will part ways this next off-season.

I also imagine some of the Jets players (particularly the receivers) are pushing for Clemens to get out there.

that was a rumor and its been confirmed that it was a just a rumor. it was speculation that he wasnt fit for 3-4 and they were looking to trade. all false though.

 

[PatsWorldChamps]

Re: More trouble in Jetsland

lol... the curse of Eric the Rat

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

that was a rumor and its been confirmed that it was a just a rumor. it was speculation that he wasnt fit for 3-4 and they were looking to trade. all false though.

Thanks for the update. :eat3:

 

[Rob0729]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

that was a rumor and its been confirmed that it was a just a rumor. it was speculation that he wasnt fit for 3-4 and they were looking to trade. all false though.

All false except the fact that he isn't fit for the 3-4 at least the Belichick 3-4 that Mangini uses.

 

[sebman2112]

Re: Players turning on Mangini, Vilma injured? (merged)

Look on the bright side, the 2008 Patriots will have a new in the box Safety

(I'm just kidding folks)

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: Players turning on Mangini, Vilma injured? (merged)

Seems like Jets players and fans are realizing that Coach ManKotite might not be as smart as they initially thought.

 

[Patriotic Fervor]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

All false except the fact that he isn't fit for the 3-4 at least the Belichick 3-4 that Mangini uses.

Mangini may think it's Belichick's 3-4, but it's not! It's evolved well past that and morphed into something Mangini no longer recognizes!

The Jets are getting just what they deserve with this guy...

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Jets players starting to turn on Mangini?

The Jets expressed interest in moving Vilma this off-season but a deal was never made. He's pretty over rated IMO and it looks like the Jets and Vilma will part ways this next off-season.

Yet again you blather ignorance about football.
BB would give a 2 pick for Vilma who'd be a star here. You might reflect upon how well BB did with his 2nd and 4th picks this season. Not that the perfidious Jets would ever trade to the Pats.

 

[CrazedChariot]

Re: Players turning on Mangini, Vilma injured? (merged)

I don't really see what you are saying.. They used their 2nd rounder to get Welker who has been fantastic. Their 4th was Kareem Brown. Obviously you aren't going to get a rookie pro-bowler in the 4th round, and thats exactly how good brown would need to be in order to see the field. If he can become a solid 4th or 5th option, along the lines of a jarvis green in a few years, then it was a very solid pick.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Re: Players turning on Mangini, Vilma injured? (merged)

I don't really see what you are saying.. They used their 2nd rounder to get Welker who has been fantastic. Their 4th was Kareem Brown. Obviously you aren't going to get a rookie pro-bowler in the 4th round, and thats exactly how good brown would need to be in order to see the field. If he can become a solid 4th or 5th option, along the lines of a jarvis green in a few years, then it was a very solid pick.

They had more than one 4th. I think they swapped the other one for that WR guy Moss.

 

[BostonBullit]

Jets: Vilma gone for season with knee?

EEI just said that Vilma may be gone for the season with a "significant knee injury"...

wonder if Mangini Galoolied him for speaking to the media last week

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Jets: Vilma gone for season with knee?

I hate to see this happen for several reasons. First the entertainment product is diluted every time a good player goes out. Secondly, because now Mangini has an excuse for this excerable season. On 2nd thought, I want Mangini's ineptness to continue as the Jets coach so maybe only reason one stands.