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That's a lot of picks OTG, one thing i will say without getting into it too much. I think you may value the unknown of the draft pick sometimes a little more than the FA/Pro's we have on the roster. Personally i can't see Cannon, Deadrick or Greagory not being in our 53 this year... especially Cannon.

But that's just a personal preference as each of those players has played and performed well against NFL caliber competition.

The other thing is i am not sure i would trade away both back up quarterbacks who have learned the system at the same time leaving us an injury away from a rookie starter who has only had training camp to learn a complex system.

The interesting one for me is McClellin, I need to watch more of this kid as he really has caught the eye of alot of evaluators on and off this board.

Lastly i know we say that Slater is gone every year as he is only a STer but every year he works hard and makes the team, i guess only time will tell.

Thanks for the mock it as good reading.

1 ~ I agree!! If I expect the Draft Pick to be an equal contributor to the Incumbent by the end of the year, and to eclipse him after that, then I absolutely 100% prefer the Draft Pick!! But I appreciate and respect your courteous way of pointing that out, Sir, and we both know that everybody ~ and I do mean everybody!! ~ will agree with you on that!! Not my first divergence with the Majority. :cool:

2 ~ I'm quite confident that you're correct in that Marcus Cannon, Steve Gregory, and Brandon Deaderick will very likely make the roster, because it's Coach Bill drafting the players and making the Personnel decisions, not me...More's the Pity!! :D

3 ~ Yes, trading both back ups is yet another radical move by me, and one that Coach Bill is highly unlikely to emulate...But it's worth noting that going into a season with only a single rookie as a back up Quarter Back is precisely what he did in 2009, even with Brady coming back from injury...Even so, I'm more than happy to agree that everybody will agree with you on this!!
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4 ~ I like Matt Slater, but I have no room on my 50 Man Roster ~ the last 3 spots are always Spec Teams ~ for any positional player who can't play a position well enough to play, especially with the new lame Kick Off rules. Will Mad Bill retain his services?? Quite possibly, but that's not at issue, here.

5 ~ It's worth repeating: This is my insanely twisted, raving lunatic Mock. I'm not making predictions about what Coach Bill will do, you see: just dreaming!! :D

It's a great pleasure to discuss differences of opinion with the intelligent and the courteous, Brother Sull!! Thank you for taking the time to share your Arguments!! :rocker:
 
No WAY anybody's interested enough to go through all that, but that's OK: I had a blast!! :D

Already did, and while I'm absolutely in love with it, I don''t know how I'm going to follow it. I'm going to have to sleep on it but there are a few things I can comment on without thinking too much.

I hate Aaron Corpse, don't ask me why, I just hate him.

I was getting worried that I didn't see any defensive grizzlies, but then you picked the ultimate defensive grizzly, Hicks.

I don't think McCants is going to last that long, but it's possible.

It's loaded with players I love. The top five alone would make a great draft, then you add Hicks, E-Rod, Moore, Moss, etc etc and etc.

More tomorrow.

Got through ALL of that?? I AM impressed!! :rocker:

Thanks for your gracious words, Brother Knot!! DELIGHTED that you like it!! :D

You could very well be right about McCants: I went with Pro FootBall Weekly's Grid, for the most part, and was startled to see him projected so late...

Aaron Corpse!! Hah!! LOVE it!! :rocker:
 
OTG you are absolutely insane, and I love it! As always it is a pleasure to read your work. I especially love the Trumaine Johnson, DeMario Davis, Desmond Marrow and Chigbo Anunoby picks. I just wish they would raise the season roster limit because I would love to see what you could do with 60 spots. Bravo Good Sir

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High Praise from The Master Craftsman!! I am honored, INDEED, Sir!!
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That IS the appropriately revered Orson Welles!! I LOVE the View Page Info Option!! :rocker:
 
I would like to chime in on a few things. I like alot of your picks otg but i want to bring up some talk of our glory day defenses. Coming into this draft I thought it was better than the last few drafts for coverage linebackers, wide receivers, and cornerbacks. And I feel that coverage linebackers has been the most ignored spot for years now, moreso than pass rushers. I wanted us to fix our wideouts but once we signed brandon lloyd and gonzo(i like him) i shifted my attention back to coverage linebackers.

Many feel that our dominance was attributed to our dline but i really feel it was our linebackers. Bruschi, roman phifer, don davis, and even ted johnson were pretty good in coverage and could come up with an interception if you threw in their direction enough. For example, take the 05 season when bruschi had the stroke. We still had vrabel, colvin, our dline consisting of first rounders and some of our playmakers in the secondary but that defense was not good when chad brown and monty beisel were playing and got much better when teddy returned even though his play had dropped off. Then seau was used as a stop gap and it hasn't been addressed good enough imo. Hell in 06 people want to blame caldwell for dropping a pass and i could argue the colts shouldn't have scored so many points and picked on eric alexander who should have been upgraded long before that game even happended. Im not even going to get into the pass interference calls in that game so back to the topic.

Playing a 4-3 this year really showed our lack of coverage lbs that i have always noticed and showed how much guyton sucked and wasnt fixed until tracy white stepped in and he is supposed to be strictly special teams. And it is not often drafts come along with the likes of lavonte david, demario davis, kendricks, etc. and you have to get at least one of them. By the end of the year we were solid with white, mayo, spikes, ninko, and fletcher but i want to reduce ninko to more of a rusher and just make this coverage lbs a strength for the team. And I have no faith in bobby carpenter, koutovides, or glass tarpinian and need to be replaced with promising rookies.

Now onto the secondary. I don't think we should reach for anyone because next years draft will most likely be just as good as this one. I truly feel there are only three safeties worth picking high and they are dre kirkpatrick, trumain johnson, and barron(still not completely sold on him). Now when it comes to corners there are so many that I could envision on this team so i am kinda torn on who i would really go with here.

And lastly OTG has me wondering how we can fit projects like dale moss(who i had no idea about but now intrigued) are going to fit onto the roster especially if BB goes on his trend of taking at least 1 oline and possibly even a tight end.

Also i wanna say I really thought the draft talk would die down when mayoclinic stopped posting but OTG has been one of the best draft contributors bringing our picks to life lol.
 
Got through ALL of that?? I AM impressed!! :rocker:

Thanks for your gracious words, Brother Knot!! DELIGHTED that you like it!! :D

You could very well be right about McCants: I went with Pro FootBall Weekly's Grid, for the most part, and was startled to see him projected so late...

Aaron Corpse!! Hah!! LOVE it!! :rocker:

I admire your effort to make up for the last five drafts, and replace half of the roster. I don't agree with it, but god damn I respect it.

And I'd never trade Mallet, but we're going to have to just agree to disagree on that one. Our views are opposite.

One question I have is on your view of defensive backs. I can understand wanting to replace the safety positions with with big fast corner backs, in fact I want to do that too. But are you saying you want the players to be completely interchangeable? If so I don't agree with that. I think if you draft a player for a position, you keep him there and let him perfect the position. No flip flopping. The NFL is hard enough.

If I had my druthers I'd draft man and press man corners to play corner, and bigger zone and off man corners to play safety, provided they can hit and tackle. Trumaine Johnson is to perfect player for that application, but I'm afraid he could be gone by 48, never mind 62.

I love those UDFA tight ends you found. Talk about high upside physical specimens.
 
OTG, I highly respect your work and enjoy your contributions. Obviously, you and BB take opposite but similar approaches to the draft (both think way outside the box). My two cents:

While I like many of your picks I completely disagree with your assessments of the Pats back-up QB's and Kellen Moore, whom my nickle says won't get drafted and won't make an NFL roster. Can't argue with your logic regarding Hoyer but swapping Mallet (think Aaron Rogers) for Moore is a drastic drop in ability. Moore is the best QB in .........Boise, but nowhere near NFL capable. Watch his tape from the Senior Bowl, where he was a "deer in the headlights" who struggled to get his throws off and curled up into a cocoon whenever a defensive player crossed the line of scrimmage. TB would be forced to take every snap if this was to happen.

Not sure if a bunch of 4th round and lower round picks are better than Slater, Tarpinian, Brace, Cannon, M. Carter, Pryor, Deadrick

Love the OL picks and db picks (agree that Greagory has yet to make the team). Wish there was a way to get half of your haul.
 
I think they will draft

Hightower

Malik Jjackson Defensive End

Trenton Robertson FS he has a lot of experience

Thomas Compton OL

Hightower in the first, the rest of the guys later, maybe 3rd or 4th.
 
I would like to chime in on a few things. I like alot of your picks otg but i want to bring up some talk of our glory day defenses. Coming into this draft I thought it was better than the last few drafts for coverage linebackers, wide receivers, and cornerbacks. And I feel that coverage linebackers has been the most ignored spot for years now, moreso than pass rushers. I wanted us to fix our wideouts but once we signed brandon lloyd and gonzo(i like him) i shifted my attention back to coverage linebackers.

Many feel that our dominance was attributed to our dline but i really feel it was our linebackers. Bruschi, roman phifer, don davis, and even ted johnson were pretty good in coverage and could come up with an interception if you threw in their direction enough. For example, take the 05 season when bruschi had the stroke. We still had vrabel, colvin, our dline consisting of first rounders and some of our playmakers in the secondary but that defense was not good when chad brown and monty beisel were playing and got much better when teddy returned even though his play had dropped off. Then seau was used as a stop gap and it hasn't been addressed good enough imo. Hell in 06 people want to blame caldwell for dropping a pass and i could argue the colts shouldn't have scored so many points and picked on eric alexander who should have been upgraded long before that game even happended. Im not even going to get into the pass interference calls in that game so back to the topic.

Playing a 4-3 this year really showed our lack of coverage lbs that i have always noticed and showed how much guyton sucked and wasnt fixed until tracy white stepped in and he is supposed to be strictly special teams. And it is not often drafts come along with the likes of lavonte david, demario davis, kendricks, etc. and you have to get at least one of them. By the end of the year we were solid with white, mayo, spikes, ninko, and fletcher but i want to reduce ninko to more of a rusher and just make this coverage lbs a strength for the team. And I have no faith in bobby carpenter, koutovides, or glass tarpinian and need to be replaced with promising rookies.

Hah!! Could NOT agree with you MORE!! :rocker:

I am Fuh NATICAL about Coverage MidFielders and Coverage Flankers!!

And I agree 1000% that this draft is LOADED with'm!!

Shae McClellin
Cam Johnson
LaVonte David
DeMario Davis


All 4 of those guys have displayed exceptional Coverage Potential or Capacity, and LaVonte David is the Crown Jewel of Coverage MidFielders!!

With McClellin and Johnson joining us as Ends in the "43" and "425", as HeffaLumps in the "245", perhaps, and as Flankers in the "34"...And with David and Davis at Flanker in the "43" and "245", MidFielder in the "34", and MidFielder or Rover in the "425", our Front 7's Coverage capacity would be LIGHT YEARS better than it's been since our Fabled Defense of 2001-2004!!

Now onto the secondary. I don't think we should reach for anyone because next years draft will most likely be just as good as this one. I truly feel there are only three safeties worth picking high and they are dre kirkpatrick, trumain johnson, and barron(still not completely sold on him). Now when it comes to corners there are so many that I could envision on this team so i am kinda torn on who i would really go with here.

KirkPatrick as a Safety IS an intriguing notion, though I'm more inclined towards Hybrids...But assuming that Mad Bill sticks to a more conventional system ~ Corners are Corners and Safeties are Safeties ~ it's a very sweet idea. Johnson, I think, could play either.

I'm not familiar with next year's Corner class, but I REALLY like THIS year's.

To haul in Fleming and Johson at the end'f the 2nd Round ~ I've heard them going anywhere from #40 to #99, mind you, so who knows?? ~ and Norman, later on, would be AMAZING.


And lastly OTG has me wondering how we can fit projects like dale moss(who i had no idea about but now intrigued) are going to fit onto the roster especially if BB goes on his trend of taking at least 1 oline and possibly even a tight end.

Also i wanna say I really thought the draft talk would die down when mayoclinic stopped posting but OTG has been one of the best draft contributors bringing our picks to life lol.

Thanks so much, my friend. Brother Mayo is my favorite private correspondent, and we exchange a lot of ideas, so it's certainly an honor to be mentioned in that vein. I'm OBSESSED with this, so if nobody gave a crap, I'd probably just post away on my Site, sending my rambling out into the far reaches of Outer Space, just because I MUST...But it is INFINITELY more gratifying to share and exchange thoughts with my fellow Draft fans, and to know that my Passion is shared by others!! :rocker:
 
I admire your effort to make up for the last five drafts, and replace half of the roster. I don't agree with it, but god damn I respect it.

And I'd never trade Mallet, but we're going to have to just agree to disagree on that one. Our views are opposite.

One question I have is on your view of defensive backs. I can understand wanting to replace the safety positions with with big fast corner backs, in fact I want to do that too. But are you saying you want the players to be completely interchangeable? If so I don't agree with that. I think if you draft a player for a position, you keep him there and let him perfect the position. No flip flopping. The NFL is hard enough.

If I had my druthers I'd draft man and press man corners to play corner, and bigger zone and off man corners to play safety, provided they can hit and tackle. Trumaine Johnson is to perfect player for that application, but I'm afraid he could be gone by 48, never mind 62.

I love those UDFA tight ends you found. Talk about high upside physical specimens.

Good stuff, Brother Knot!!

1 ~ My notion of an Amorphous Secondary is a typically radical one, I do admit, and I don't even know if it's practical...But the idea of confusing the HELL out'f QB's and OC's really excites me...It's an idea that Brother Mayo and I've kicked around, with the basic idea being that the less the enemy can guess...the better!!

2 ~ No telling when Trumaine Johnson gets drafted, or Jamell Fleming...But my thinking is that it's such a deep Corner Market ~ haw ~ this year, that Opportunity is knocking, regarding 3 1st Round Talents, Josh Norman being the third.

3 ~ Thanks for the Props on the Tight Ends!! I was a bit bogged down, getting to the Pro Days, and Brother Mayo was kind enough to point out that he'd found Matt Veldman, as well as another Flex End who's name escapes me...Derek Carrier I found mention of at some other Site, but usually I just troll the Pro Days, myself, for these UFA types. It's one of my favorite parts of the process!! :D
 
1 ~ I agree!! If I expect the Draft Pick to be an equal contributor to the Incumbent by the end of the year, and to eclipse him after that, then I absolutely 100% prefer the Draft Pick!! But I appreciate and respect your courteous way of pointing that out, Sir, and we both know that everybody ~ and I do mean everybody!! ~ will agree with you on that!! Not my first divergence with the Majority. :cool:

2 ~ I'm quite confident that you're correct in that Marcus Cannon, Steve Gregory, and Brandon Deaderick will very likely make the roster, because it's Coach Bill drafting the players and making the Personnel decisions, not me...More's the Pity!! :D

3 ~ Yes, trading both back ups is yet another radical move by me, and one that Coach Bill is highly unlikely to emulate...But it's worth noting that going into a season with only a single rookie as a back up Quarter Back is precisely what he did in 2009, even with Brady coming back from injury...Even so, I'm more than happy to agree that everybody will agree with you on this!!
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4 ~ I like Matt Slater, but I have no room on my 50 Man Roster ~ the last 3 spots are always Spec Teams ~ for any positional player who can't play a position well enough to play, especially with the new lame Kick Off rules. Will Mad Bill retain his services?? Quite possibly, but that's not at issue, here.

5 ~ It's worth repeating: This is my insanely twisted, raving lunatic Mock. I'm not making predictions about what Coach Bill will do, you see: just dreaming!! :D

It's a great pleasure to discuss differences of opinion with the intelligent and the courteous, Brother Sull!! Thank you for taking the time to share your Arguments!! :rocker:

You make a good point about the new kick off return rules. It makes me wonder if the kick off return specialists wond just become obsolete and the punt returner becomes really the only real special teams returner of value.

Appreciate you taking the comments for what they were a opinion of theory rather than a critique.

I for one especially in the case of Cannon still would say that i would pick him with any pick in this draft 3rd round onwards and therefore wouldn't pick a player similar as i would expect him to beat them out.

It is a pitty i havent had time this year to do research on the lower rounds like i have previous years so really only know the 1st 2 rounds and maybe a few binkies more.
 
My final mock draft:

1a. Chandler Jones - my top OLB / DE prospect, day 1 starter
1b. Jerel Worthy - will start day 1, can play 3 downs
2a. Alshon Jeffery - I have him as a mid-1st round talent
3 + 2b = 50. Lavonte David - top coverage LB, will see ~50% of snaps 1st year
4. Trenton Robinson

S is not really addressed but top 4 are my binkies.
 
Here we go folks hang on for a wild and crazy night..



#27 Traded to Atlanta for Coby Fleener for #56 #192 and 2013 1st Round Pick -- Atlanta makes the move here when San Francisco is poised to take the talented TE from Stanford

#31 Traded to Dallas they pick Janoris Jenkins for #46 and a 2013 1st round pick. After grabbing Mark Barron in the first round the Cowboys feel like they can deal with the off field baggage. This gives Rob Ryan the secondary he needs to go to the superbowl

#37 TRADE -- New England Patriots trade QB - Ryan Mallet to the Cleveland Browns -- Devon Still, DT, Penn State Such a no brainer here.

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#46 New England Patriots Select Patriots select - Nick Perry, DE, Southern California The Pats get a Pass rusher to help in those sub packages. A great value here

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#48 New England Patriots Select - Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida a fast and solid cb here that was a team capt. I forsee McCourty playing more FS this year as that was the biggest weakness last year. Robinson fights for a starting role his rookie season

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#56 New England Patriots Select - Brandon Taylor, SS, LSU -- A good depth pickup here for Patrick Chung insurance

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#62 New England Patriots Select - Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California -- With more emphasis on sub packages this is a perfect fit.. the guy loves football too

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Picks
#93, #126, and #192 will be traded into 2013 somehow.. :cool:
 
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Woo!! 70 minutes to GO!!!! :rocker:

70 minutes left to get your Mocks in!! :D

1 addendum: I would also make sure I hauled in DT Aubrayo Franklin!!

Special Thanks to Brother Mayo for reminding me that there's such a thing as Free Agents!!
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I believe that Franklin ~ who was being FRANCHISED 20 months ago!! ~ is a CLASSIC Buy Low Opportunity: He's had two bad years in a row, and 99.9999% of the masses have given'm up for DEAD...INCLUDING the donkeys in virtually every NFL Office!! Happens ALL THE TIME!! :eek:

What they evidently forget...is that he's had two consecutive EXTREMELY short off seasons...And THAT, my friends, is why he's SUCKED, the last two years!!

Give'm a full off season to take it back through the gears...and he will get his BEAST on!! :rocker:

* And as I forgot to mention, though I included'm in the final roster: Sign Jabar Gaffney, baby!! :rocker:
 
I should also append that I would definitely seek out an additional couple of UFA's that Brother Mayo and I've discussed, but who I almost forgot, in the recent chaos:

CB Christopher GreenWood
SE Michael Calvin
 
I should also append that I would definitely seek out an additional couple of UFA's that Brother Mayo and I've discussed, but who I almost forgot, in the recent chaos:

CB Christopher GreenWood
SE Michael Calvin

I like Greenwood. He might go late 6th thru end. If he's a UDFA, bring him in! And if we grab a late round pick consider using it.
 
Ladies + Gentlemen!!

It is my Honor and my Privilege to present, to you:

Brother Mayo Clinic's Final 2012 Mock Draft...Part I!!

mayoclinic said:
With the draft minutes away, here's my final revised mock for the Pats. This is the way I would do things. I can't predict what BB will actually do. But it reflects my ideas on how I would revise both the offense and defense. This includes:

1. More run-pass balance and integration, so that the offense can fluidly morph between the spread and power running formations, and anything in-between, without changing personnel.

2. Moving towards a hybrid defense built around versatile coverage LBs and raptor-like hyrbid DBs, which can also morph fluidly and which can disguise itself to create confusion. I see a lot of 4-2-5 and 2-4-5 schemes. The dime is the new nickel, and 5 DBs will be on the field most of the time. This scheme requires two very stout guys up front who can stop the run and push the pocket - think Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa.

My thoughts and selections have also been heaviy influenced by OfftheGrid.

The Draft:

*** Trade: New England trades #27 (680 points) to Cleveland for #37 and #68 (780 points). The points are off a bit, but Peter King has proposed this trade - the Browns trade back into the 1st round to get Brandon Weedon, and pay a slight premium. I would ONLY do this trade if Michael Brockers is not available with a slight trade up (21 or later). If Brockers is off the board, then I see the Pats trading back and picking up a 2013 1st round pick. The 2013 draft will have a BONANZA of stout DT types: Johnanthan Hankins, Star Lotulelei (my early 2013 binky), Jesse Williams, Kwame Geathers and John Jenkins, among others. The Pats could sign a UFA DT like Aubreyo Franklin or Shaun Rogers to plug the middle along with Wilfork for a year or two, while waiting until 2013 to address DT.

*** Trade: Pats trade #31 (600 points) to Indianapolis for #34 and 136 (598 points).

34. Doug Martin, RB, Boise St. 5'9" 223#.

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Beast! Pats go offense with their first pick and the fans howl! But imagine if it were Trent Richardson at 27. The "muscle hamster" is a bowling-ball type of multiple purpose threat in the Ray Rice mold. Martin commands an intoxicating fusion of core strength, explosiveness, and agility. He can absolutely blast it between the tackles, and he can also be extremely effective outside. Most importantly, he's got the core strength, the core flexibility, the fluidity, and the lateral agility to consistently be a threat, on any given play, to go through you or around you. Martin's 10.95 Agility Score (short shuttle plus 3-cone time) compares favorably with backs such as Ray Rice and Matt Forte. Martin is also a solid receiver and blocker who can be as effective in the passing game as in the running game. And he's an excellent punt and kickoff returner. Put it all together and you have a complete "4 down" player who can be a workhorse and who can compliment the existing RBBC and integrate into the passing attack.

Why should the Pats use a high draft pick on a RB? The Pats need to develop the running game and more balance on offense. Tedy Bruschi among others has suggested this. It would take pressure off Tom Brady and probably extend his career, as well as make the offense less predictable and more effective. While I fully expect Shane Vereen to be a superb offensive weapon for the Pats, there are signs that the Pats are not content with just Vereen, Ridley and Woodhead. They have signed 2 FBs recently, and they have hosted several RBs for visits, including Martin and Virginia Tech RB David Wilson, both projected 1st-2nd round prospects, so they seem to be open to the possibility of spending a high pick on a RB. Josh McDaniels used the #12 pick overall in 2009 on Knowshon Moreno in his first draft as HC of the Broncos, and it seems that McDaniels values RBs as a key component of the offense more than Bill O'Brien did. So it's not out of the question. And Martin would be solid value at #34. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being a better pro than Trent Richardson.

Barring an unlikely and expensive trade with Chicago for Matt Forte, Martin represents the best option for the Pats to acquire a RB who can be a workhorse and a difference maker in both the running and passing games. Martin and Shane Vereen should complement each other well - somewhat analogous to having Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez at TE. Martin, Vereen, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Welker and Lloyd would give Brady an amazing complement of offensive weapons.

37. Lavonte David, MF/DF, Nebraska. 6'1" 233#.

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Super Beast! David may be the best pure football player on the defensive side of the ball in this draft. Yet he slips to the mid-2nd round because of concerns about his size and schematic fit. Nevertheless, David commands an amazing fusion of frightening launch velocity, powerful coiled core strength, incredibly explosive torsion out of his breaks, sweet fluidity, tremendous lateral agility, and absolutely mesmerizing verticity as a pass defender. But all that pales in comparison to the lofty grades he gets for exceptional diagnostic acuity and stunning processing speed: David's "jedi reflexes" allow him to play much faster than his timed speed, and to create imact plays that can change a game. Part Mike Singletary and part Derrick Brooks, David is a rare impact player who transcends his physical ability and who can will a team to victory. His JUCO coach said he was better than teammate Jason Pierre-Paul. Carl Pellini called him perhaps the best player he ever coached - and that includes Ndamukong Suh.

David could potentially go as high as the late 1st round - and he'd be worth it. Teams love his tape. But he is generally regarded as too small and "scheme specific", causing the majority of teams to pass him up for guys with better measurables. BB knows better, and pounces. Although David is not a clear schematic "fit", BB will find ways to get him on the field in a variety of roles, at both LB and DB. He will be an impact player.

*** Trade: Pats trade #48 (420 points) to Philadelphia for #51 and #172 (413.6 points). Obligatory trade with Philly. BB trades back a couple of picks as he so often does, thinking his target will still be available.

51. Trumaine Johnson, DB, Montana. 6'2" 204#.

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Super Sleeper Beast!! Johnson brings a scintillating fusion of tremendous verticity, explosive torsion, and outstanding diagnostic acuity and processing speed. A former QB and point guard, he commands highly impressive instincts with physical play, and is as effective in run support as he is in coverage. Johnson boasts an extraordinary blend of athleticism, power, and size, and the ability to play either zone or press coverage, or to convert to FS.

*** Trade: New England trades #62 for a 2013 1st round pick. Someone will bite.

*** Trade: New England trades #68 (250 points) to Denver for #87, #108 and#188 (250.2 points).

*** Trade: New England trades #87 for a 2013 2nd round pick. Someone will bite.

*** Trade: New England trades #93 and #136 (166 points) to Washington for #102 and #109 (168 points). Redskins want to get back in at the end of day 2.
 
Brother Mayo Clinic's 2012 Mock Draft ~ Part 2!!

mayoclinic said:
102. DeMario Davis, DF/MF, Arkansas St. 6'2" 235#.

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Sleeper Beast! As Wes Bunting so succinctly puts it, "this is a bad dude". Davis brings it all: excellent core strength, explosive burst off the snap, tremendous fluidity, and absolutely outstanding processing speed, diagnostic acuity, and instincts, to say nothing of a relentless motor! Davis plays with a violence and explosiveness that bely his size. He is a force in run defense, an effective pass rusher, and he commands impressive verticity in pass defense. He also has impressive athleticism and strength, with 4.52 speed and a 38.5" vertical, and 32 reps at 225#. Davis would be a tremendous bargain in the 4th round.

Once again, BB takes advantage of the rest o the league de-valuing LBs who are not primarily edge rushers. Instead of over-spending for one trick ponies, he picks up bargain value impact defenders who can wreck havoc behind a dominant DL. Lavonte David and DeMario Davis are roughly the LB equivalent of Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez - two extraordinary players who will complement each other to devastating effect. As Doug Kyed of NE Patriots Draft has noted, "it’s time for the Patriots to change up the criteria a little bit when it comes to evaluating and drafting linebackers. It’s a changing game and linebackers who can run and cover are more valuable than ever, it’s time for the Patriots to get a few." David and Davis would fit that order to a T.

108. Taylor Thompson, DE/TE, SMU. 6'6" 259#.

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Sleeper Beast! Another TE! Thompson is sort of a Connor Barwin kind of prospect from a parallel universe - a high school WR who converted to DE and was all-conference, but who is likely to convert to TE in the pros. Thompson showed terrific movement skills and nice hands working out as a TE at his Pro Day. With 4.55 speed and a 37# vertical, he is the most intriguing TE prospect in the 2012 draft, despite not having played the position! Nolan Nawrocki says that Thompson has "freakish, first-round talent with big upside".

109. Brandon Hardin, DB, Oregon St. 6'3" 219#.

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Sleeper Beast! Hardin has measurables comparable to Patrick Peterson - 4.38 40 with a 6.90 3-cone and 4.19 short shuttle at almost 6'3" and 219#. He missed most of 2011 with an injured shoulder. Draftinsider says that he's now considered one of the top 5 FS prospects in the draft. Could he be the next Rodney Harrison? Probably not, but he could be an exceptional free safety. The combination of Hardin and Trumaine Johnson gives the Pats an extraordinary stable of versatile DBs, along with a deep corps of midfielders and defensive flankers with exceptional verticity. This should allow the defense to match up with virtually any offensive personnel.

126. Senio Kelemete, OG, Washington. 6'4" 307#.

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Super Sleeper Beast! Kelemete switched from defensive tackle to offensive guard to offensive tackle over his first 3 years at Washington, and projects to wing back to guard. His mechanics are certainly a bit raw; but his cross training and ability to pick up a new position are invaluable. But what's really impressive about Kelemete is his truly amazing constellation of skills: outstanding core strength, exceptional launch velocity, impressive torsion when he changes directions, and tremendous athleticism. He possesses beautiful fluidity, excellent lateral agility, and extraordinary range for a big man. Kelemete also shows evidence of a terrific work ethic and passion for the game. Add it all up, and give this guy a year at Dante's Dancing Academy and the Pats should have a worthy successor to Brian Waters in 2013. Given what Dante could do with Stephen Neal, wait till he gets his hand on this guy.

172. Akiem Hicks, DL, Regina. 6'4" 318#.

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Sleeper Super Beast! Hicks could be another Brockers in time. His floor is low, he is extremely raw and will need 2-3 years, but his upside is immense. Hicks commands impressive core strength, explosive burst, and superior fluidity in an imposing physical package, including long (35 1/2") arms to disrupt passing lanes.

Could Hicks bust? Sure. But he represents one hell of a sweet roll of the dice on Day 3!

188. Dale Moss, WR, South Dakota St. 6'3" 213#.

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Moon Shot - Super Sleeper Beast! A converted basketball player with only 1 year of college football experience, Moss runs a 4.38 40 and 4.08 short shuttle with a 41.5" vertical and 10'10" broad jump, and an unworldly 6.32 3-cone. His one year was not unproductive - Moss racked up 61 Catches, 949 Yards, and 6 Touch Downs in his first season ever. Raw or not, Moss' raw fluidity, lateral agility, core strength and core power offers a unique upside in this draft.
 
Brother Mayo Clinic's 2012 Mock Draft ~ Part 3!!

Ladies + Gentlemen...

The 2012 Mock Draft Season...is officially CLOSED!!

:rocker: Go, Patriots!!! :rocker:

mayoclinic said:
Other potential late round / UDFA developmental prospects:

- Michael Smith, RB, Utah St. 5'9" 205#. 4.33 speed with a 40.5" vertical.
- Michael Calvin WR, Cal. 6'3" 215# with 4.34 speed, a 40.5" vertical, and a 6.70 3-cone.
- Matt Veldman, TE, . 35" vertical and 6.99 3-cone at 6'6" 256#.
- Kyle Fiedorowicz, TE, North Central College. 6'7" 265# size with 4.67 speed. 1/3 of his receptions were TDs.
- Derek Carrier, X-Back, Beloit. 6'4" 238#. 4.50 speed with a 6.70 3-cone, reminiscent of Aaron Hernandez.
- Steven Baker, OT, East Carolina. 6'8" 315#. 4.91 40 with a 32" vertical. A basketball convert who is just beginning to scratch his surface.
- David Snow, OG/C, Texas. 6'4" 303#.
- Chigbo Anunoby, DL, Morehouse. 6'4" 328#.
- Markus Kuhn, DE, North Carolina St. 6'4.5", 299#. A German import in the Sebastian Vollmer tradition.
- Ryan Van Bergen, DE, Michigan. 6'6" 290#. Played both inside and out. 4.90 speed.
- Louis Nzegwu, DE/OLB, Wisconsin. 6'4" 255#. Connor Barwin measurables (4.57 40, 6.84 short shuttle, 41.5" vertical).
- Tim Fugger, DE/OLB, Vanderbilt. 6'3" 250# with 4.60 speed.
- Julian Miller, DE/OLB, West Virginia. 6'3" 265#. Versatile kid with a great motor who has played inside and out.
- Desmond Marrow, DB, Tulsa. 6'2" 210#. An OTG favorite.
- Chris Greenwood, CB, Albion. 6'1" 193#. Big CB with 4.41 speed and a 43" vertical. Very smart player getting a lot of attention.

Thinking Ahead to 2013:

While it is obviously very early to be thinking about the 2013 draft, there is no doubt that BB already has some idea what is coming down the pipe, and that will influence both his targets for 2012 and his willingness to trade into 2013. The 2013 draft is likely to be much stronger than 2012 at the top, and much deeper in several areas:

- DT: As already mentioned, Star Lotulelei, Johnathan Hankins, Kwame Geathers, John Jenkins and Jesse Williams are either coming out or eligible, as well as Purdue DT Kawann Short.
- OC: Alabama's Barrett Jones will be a Senior, as well as USC's Khaled Holmes and Louisville OC Mario Benavides. Much stronger group.
- TE: Tyler Eifert, Zach Ertz, Levine Toilolo, Michael Williams and Joseph Fauria, among others, make this the best TE class since 2010.
- Edge rushers: Sam Montgomery, Barkevious Mingo, Jarvis Jones, Jackson Jeffcoat, William Gholston, Devin Taylor and Alex Okafor are a stronger group than the 2012 class.

The 2013 draft is likely to be weak compared with 2012 in coverage LBs and RBs with receiving skills.

Training Camp Roster:

This assumes that Andre Carter could be re-signed when he is healthy, and it leaves open the status of Matt Light and Brian Waters.

QB: Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer, Mike Hartline. Probably the best and deepest group in the NFL.

RB: Doug Martin, Shane Vereen, Stephen Ridley, Danny Woodhead, Tony Fiammetta, Spencer Larsen, Eric Kettani. What a group! And Kevin Faulk wants to come back.

WR: Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Deion Branch, Anthony Gonzalez, Chad Ochocinco, Donte Stallworth, Julian Edelman, Tiquan Underwood, Dale Moss, Matt Slater, Britt Davis. Add Michael Calvin as a UDFA and try to get one of him or Dale Moss to the PS.

TE: Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Daniel Fells, Taylor Thompson. Add Kyle Fiedorowicz, Matt Veldman or Derek Carrier as a UDFA and put them on the PS.

OT: Nate Solder, Sebastian Vollmer, Robert Gallery (also OG), Marcus Cannon (also OG), Matt Kopa, Kyle Hix. Add Stephen Baker as a UDFA and put him on the PS.

OG/C: Logan Mankins, Brian Waters, Dan Koppen, Dan Connolly, Senio Kelemete, Nick McDonald, Ryan Wendell, Donald Thomas. Sign David Snow as a UDFA and put him on the PS. Plus Robert Gallery and Marcus Cannon can play guard.

DL: Vince Wilfork, Aubreyo Franklin/Shaun Rogers, Myron Pryor, Jonathan Fanene, Kyle Love, Akiem Hicks, Brandon Deaderick, Ron Brace, Marcus Harrison. Add Chigbo Anunoby or Markus Kuhn and try to sneak him onto the PS.

DF: Rob Ninkovich, Trevor Scott, Jermaine Cunningham, Markell Carter, Alex Silvestro, Aaron Lavarias. Possibly re-sign Andre Carter if he is healthy. Taylor Thompson could be used as a situational pass rusher as well.

DF/MF: Jerod Mayo, Lavonte David, Brandon Spikes, DeMario Davis, Dane Fletcher, Jeff Tarpinian, Tracy White, Bobby Carpenter, Niko Koutouvides, Mike Rivera.

DB: Devin McCourty, Pat Chung, Ras-I Dowling, Trumaine Johnson, Kyle Arrington, Sterling Moore, Steven Gregory, Brandon Hardin, Will Allen, Marquice Cole, Malcolm Williams, Josh Barrett, Sergio Brown, Ross Ventrone.

ST: Stephen Gostkowski, Zoltan Mesko, Danny Aiken, Chris Koepplin.

That's an incredibly deep and talented roster to start training camp. What a war it will be to make the team.

Summary:

This draft is primarily focused on the defensive side of the ball. Nevertheless, a significant goal is the integration of the running game into the offense. Doug Martin could have an impact similar to that which Rob Gronkowski brought in 2010. Senio Kelemete is an intriguing OL prospect who could be ready to step in for Brian Waters by 2013. And there are a number of intriguing developmental prospects with absurd measurables. Any one of them could develop into a potential impact player.

Nevertheless, the defense is really what this draft is about. Although the Pats would have loved to add an elite DT prospect such as Michael Brockers, they elected to plug that with free agents and wait until the much deeper 2013 DT class. Akiem Hicks has tremendous upside as a developmental DL. Trumaine Johnson and Brandon Hardin are huge, versatile DBs who should be able to play both outside at CB and at FS. But the defensive centerpiece of this draft is the flankers/midfielders. Lavonte David and DeMario Davis, who will bring a completely different look to the defense, both in terms of coverage ability and in terms of their ability to generate splash plays.

This approach to the draftwould shake things up in a major way, on both sides of the LOS - and potentially take this team to a whole different level. The offense would be more balanced than any since 2008, or possibly even 2004, and would use the RBs as major weapons in the passing attack, similar to the New Orleans offense. This would also be a drastically different defensive look than any we've seen in the BB era. The number of "raptors" - guys 6'+ with absurd coverage skills - and coverage LBs would give the team a dramatically different look than the traditional 2-gapping 3-4. IMHO, it would be a fabulous adaptation of BB's traditional defense to a pass-oriented league.

Imagine how much less predictable and more diverse this team would be, on both offense and defense. And with a major infusion of young talent. Of course, the "experts" would slam that draft for not addressing basic "needs": no outside pass rusher, no vertical threat WR, no traditional safety.

Would BB have the balls to do something like this? IDK, but I sure hope so. And it sort of "feels" like the kind of "" thing that BB would do.

And he would get an extra 2013 1st and 2nd round pick in the process.
 
Okay, going to have my very first pop at this and see how I get on. Two disclaimers though (don't want to be held to these next April :) )

1. Being based in the UK, I don't get to watch college football and I don't have the knowledge to effectively scout these players even if I did. What I do is research - seeing what is said about the prospects in various places, learning from previous drafts and developing ideas based upon that. How successful that approach is will be seen (although in last years prediction contest I did jointly win, predicting Solder and Vereen - probably a fluke).

:confused: This probably best represents my understanding of the draft.

2. I've only just started the research process and haven't looked at nearly enough prospects so this mini-mock will be a very early and incomplete guesstimate.

But here goes:

Trade Brian Hoyer for mid 2nd rounder

1. Trade 1A and 3 to move up ahead of the NY Jets

1A - Courtney Upshaw DE/OLB

Not sure BB will trade up for someone who doesn't fit the measurables for the position, nevermind drafting him in the first round, but I really like what I've read and seen of Upshaw. Screams "Patriot" to me and looks to be an immediate defensive upgrade. Wouldn't trade up too high for him but he's a good option for the Jets so moving up 3 or 4 places to jump ahead of them would probably be worthwhile.

1B Trade 1B for 2012 2nd and 2012 3rd (If Devon Still was available here, I'd take him rather than trade down but I don't think he will be).

2A - Dont'a Hightower ILB

The Patriots need to seriously upgrade their defense and as I see it only Wilfork, Mayo and probably McCourty should be seen as locks for next year. Hightower not only provides excellent cover but should compete with, and possibly beat out Spikes for the second ILB spot. He also has the added benefit of possibly being able to play as an OLB.




2B - Markelle Martin FS

At the moment it's him or TJ McDonald - I can't really decide. Would also be tempted by Sanu or the Baylor WR Kendall Wright if they were available. Still Safety is a position of need and with two linebackers already selected, there's no need for the DE/OLB conversion projects that seem to be rated in this spot and no 3-4 DE's that appeal.

2C - Ben Jones C

Not enthused by this but there's not a lot available in this range. Trade into 2013 perhaps?

2D Trade 2D for 2012 3rd and 4th


3A Marvin McNutt - WR

We see it so often. Sir Tom Brady (I'm British so I've adopted and knighted him) needs to feel comfortable with a wide receiver if he's going to feature in the receiving game. McNutt works in a pro offense, knows his routes and is a former QB and intelligent. If anyone is going to make Brady feel comfortable it's him right? And just to make you salivate - It's 3rd and goal, Brady has dropped back, Welker is in the flat and Gronkowski and the 6'4" McNutt are loitering with intent at the back of the endzone towering over 5'10" and 6' DB's. Who can say "TD" the quickest?

3B - Kheeston Randle DE/DT

Might not offer a pass rush from the 3-4 DE position, but is a 6-5, 305 pounder who plays low and eats up double teams. Can't ask for more in the bottom of the third round.

4 - DaJohn Harris DT/DE

Could probably be had later but I'm done working on trades as I haven't fully researched this end of the draft yet. Is a 6-4 310lb DT from USC and could be an interesting development option as a 3-4 DE.


Not a bad draft. Would love to have included Still, Sanu or Kendall Wright but didn't see the opportunity and I'm not overly keen on the likes of Worthy, Crick or Winn for the DE positions. On the other hand, I really like Upshaw and Hightower at this moment in proceedings and see them as upgrades for this defense. Glad to address the safety spot but would have liked to include a CB like Minnifield or Gilmore. Randle and Harris are development 3-4 DE's who might just make a spot their own.

On the offensive side, I'm not convinced an OK Centre is a desperate need but didn't see much else at that slot worth picking but McNutt may be my early binky and adds a TD threat to an already potent offense.

More work needed yet I fear.


My first mock and the start of my love affair with Dont'a Hightower.

And I cannot believe there was a time when Mark Barron wasn't the apple of my eye. Markelle Martin? I'm so ashamed.

This was from November. Only seven months or so and I'll be doing my first mock for next year. Can't wait.



And finally, I just want to say a HUGE! thank you to Off The Grid for literally illustrating this whole process for us. Without him the whole process would have so much more drab. Bravo my good man.

Cue lot's of smilies :D :D :D :D

:rocker: :rocker:

:singing: :singing:

etc
 
My first mock and the start of my love affair with Dont'a Hightower.

And I cannot believe there was a time when Mark Barron wasn't the apple of my eye. Markelle Martin? I'm so ashamed.

This was from November. Only seven months or so and I'll be doing my first mock for next year. Can't wait.



And finally, I just want to say a HUGE! thank you to Off The Grid for literally illustrating this whole process for us. Without him the whole process would have so much more drab. Bravo my good man.

Cue lot's of smilies :D :D

:rocker: :rocker:

:singing: :singing:

etc

Hah!! SEE how you are?? NOW you're gonna make me question my decision to RETIRE from illustrating!! :nono:

Seriously: Thanks, Bro. :cool:

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Send those to me PRIVATELY, though, gents!! THAT way, I can zip'm back to you, and when people respond to your posts, the Pics come WITH!! :D

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It IS a blast to take a look at the early Mocks, though:

Shea McClellin went from my LAST Pick, in October, to my FIRST Pick, in April!! :rofl:
 


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