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If Dobson can fully recover and improve on what we did last year, then we're going to have a very, very respectable WR corps. No true #1, but a bunch of #2s, and deeper than most teams are.

My projections right now for the big 4
Edelman 85 catches, 850 yards
LaFell 65 catches, 800 yards
Dobson 50 catches, 700 yards
Amendola 70 catches, 700 yards

I love what Bill has done this FA. He is not messing around.
 
Austin Collie is not under contract, is he? I thought he was a free agent?

I suppose the Pats could bring him to camp, but I really think the team is trying to upgrade the receiving corps. It doesn't help that is skill set is so much along the lines of Edelman and Amendola. I think Belichick would likely be trying to fill out the roster candidates with size and/or burner speed.
 
Amendola's first game, Edelman had 7 receptions, Amendola 10 and Vereen 7. Where is there a problem of anyone playing together?
 
Y-WR –Edelman, Amendola, Boyce
X-WR –Dobson, LaFell, Thompkins

That pretty much covers it for now

Kenny Britt would add more competition at the X

Presuming Edelman stays healthy I think all the other starting spots are anyone's to grab
 
As of right now I'd be surprised if KT makes the roster. He is really going to need a strong training camp. He struggled to get open all of last yr.
 
Amendola's first game, Edelman had 7 receptions, Amendola 10 and Vereen 7. Where is there a problem of anyone playing together?

The Patriots played that game without Gronkowski, and Dobson, couple that with Edelman’s growth as a player, the potential growth of Boyce and Thompkins, and the addition of LaFell and any other players we add this offseason through UFA and/or the draft.
 
As of right now I'd be surprised if KT makes the roster. He is really going to need a strong training camp. He struggled to get open all of last yr.

Agreed, if they sign Britt, I think it will be KT LaFell and Britt battling it out for one roster spot MAYBE two if they play at a high enough level.

But you never know, there are guys who have been viewed as locks and get released on final cuts (Hoyer, Mesko, Francis, Ballard) and long shots have made it (Joe Vellano, Develin, KT). Let them battle and out and put the better receiver on the roster.
 
If Dobson can fully recover and improve on what we did last year, then we're going to have a very, very respectable WR corps. No true #1, but a bunch of #2s, and deeper than most teams are.

My projections right now for the big 4
Edelman 85 catches, 850 yards
LaFell 65 catches, 800 yards
Dobson 50 catches, 700 yards
Amendola 70 catches, 700 yards

I love what Bill has done this FA. He is not messing around.

That is 270 completions to just those four players, what about Gronkowski, Vereen, Boyce, a second tight end, and others, Brady threw the football the second most times of his career last season, I do not see them having him throw it more often this year.
 
I did - halfway through LAST MONTH...TWICE. Including one post where the follow-up was by someone who said that post should be tagged as the definitive response to you. Sties that measured aspects like Blocking, First Downs...everything, and in their stat similar to Baseball's WAR, Amendola was number 10 and Edelman was number 11, by a hair.

That is not an indication of how teams would value them on UFA that is their impact when on the field. Last season Amendola spent more than half the offensive snaps on the sideline so his value to a team is not going to be that high considering that has been the case for three consecutive seasons.

If I could figure out how to search my posts, I'd copy it for you, one last time. Since I can't, I'll leave you to continue your jihad. This was around the time you were saying that JE would get 6-8/year.

I never said Edelman would get $6-$8 million, in fact I said multiple times that I would not value any slot receiver over $4.5 million APY.

The best free agent week in memory - Revis, Browner, Edelman, and LaFell - and you're at it again.

What does the best UFA week have to do with this conversation? What am I at again, you think anything other than 100% agreement with what you have to say is “at it again” that is closed minded, and petty. Even when I disagree with you which I do right here I do not make foolish statements like you do here, I respect that your opinion is your opinion and acknowledge the fact that you have just as much right to your opinion as I do to mine. I am not sure WTF you think that you do not have to extend the same courtesy to me and insist on making asinine comments any time we do not see eye to eye.

No, I suspect you're sitting on a branch like a vulture waiting for his first mistake/injury.

That is paranoid and silly. Once again I do not exaggerate your position on something when I disagree with you so stop being childish, I could have said something like I suspect you are sitting there with a Amendola picture writing him a fan letter about how much you love him but I did not do that to you.

And now I promise, I'm done with this. Please quit making it a long offseason with your personal jihad against DA.

Once again I could have said stop making this a long offseason with your obsession and blinding love for Amendola, but I did not because your opinion of Amendola is yours and I am not a petty child who gets mad at other posters when they do not share the same view as me. That is what is making this a long offseason, is the posters who think that their opinion is so correct and if anyone disagrees, they must be a terrible poster and should be accused of having a jihad or some other ridiculous accusation.


Some people no matter their age really need to grow the F up and stop making every damn thing discussed in a thread a personal and verbal altercation. I have added 5 posters to ignore in the last 24 hours and if you continue to behave the way you have you will be number 6 and that is the case for anyone else who is going to become disrespectful because they do not see eye to eye with me on a specific matter. I am 110% done with playing these back and forth punk games with posters on this site it not fun and unproductive and I am out of patience for it. If you do not agree with me that is fine, but you should respect the fact that I am entitled to my own opinion and it SHOULD NOT ANGER you and the fact that it does indicates some type of warped reality. I am extremely disappointed in the conduct of posters I have seen recently, any variation from agreement results in belittling and verbal attacks, that is vile and offensive and those who do it should hold their head in shame.
 
That pretty much covers it for now

Kenny Britt would add more competition at the X

Presuming Edelman stays healthy I think all the other starting spots are anyone's to grab
This is decent depth. We haven't see what Mark Harrison can offer.
I think they will still add two or three more thru FA, day 3 draft pick,
or UDFA.
 
I cannot see any team offering a draft pick for Amendola, on this year’s UFA market he would have been the #17 WR available based on who else was available. He would be in the running for a 1-year contract for minimum money guaranteed, so his contract makes him undesirable to team, if he was to restructure and take a pay cut like Blount did last season we may be able to get a sixth round pick for him at best.

They will let him compete for a roster spot in camp and if he does not impress they will cut him.
You really do hate Amendola. He's much better (and valuable) than you give him credit for.
 
You really do hate Amendola. He's much better (and valuable) than you give him credit for.

No I do not hate him I am just looking a reality, if Revis, Steve Smith and others could not return a pick for their teams there is no way that Danny Amendola is going to net a pick for us. He has not played more than 49.2% of his teams snaps in any of the past three seasons, his production in terms of receptions, yards and touchdowns has decreased in every season since 2010, and he is nearly 29 years old coming off a torn groin. He is owed $20.5M over the next 4 seasons to any team that takes on his contract.

Hate has nothing to do with it I am just not blinded by my love for the player or by the fact that I refuse to admit that Belichick made the wrong choice with him or Welker. Posters like to make it out that I hate him because if they believe that they can ignore the very information I have provided in my post.

I give him credit for being a 600-700 yard per season WR because that is what he has been best case every single year since he entered the league in 2008. I do not believe in the seventh year leap, if others do than good for them, but they should not consider it hate because I assess Amendola based on what he has done in the league instead of what I think, hope, or wish he could do.

The Patriots generally carry six sometimes seven WRs.

Edelman
Dobson
LaFell
Boyce
Slater

Those five players I view as near locks to make the roster, so you have one or two spots left for Amendola, Thompkins, Harrison, and if they sign Britt, Collie or anyone else, plus any draft picks they may select.
 
With 9 catches in his rookie season, I don't think Josh Boyce is a lock for anything. I think he'll be battling for the fifth WR spot, unless Dobson starts the season on PUP.

There was an opportunity the size of Vince Wilfork just sitting there for either Thompkins or Boyce to grab last year. Neither one could grab it and bring it in.
 
Amendola's first game, Edelman had 7 receptions, Amendola 10 and Vereen 7. Where is there a problem of anyone playing together?

In Amendola's last game. Edelman had 10 receptions, Vereen had 5, Collie had 4, Dobson had 4 and Amendola had 0
 
With 9 catches in his rookie season, I don't think Josh Boyce is a lock for anything. I think he'll be battling for the fifth WR spot, unless Dobson starts the season on PUP.



There was an opportunity the size of Vince Wilfork just sitting there for either Thompkins or Boyce to grab last year. Neither one could grab it and bring it in.


Boyce is a fourth round pick who showed promise at the end of the season. If they kept Bequette last season I see no way that they give up on Boyce. Also he is extremely talented.

Dobson should be full recovered by May, June at the latest so I doubt he goes on PUP.
 
I didn't think that Bequette was a 4th rounder. Perhaps you think you remember better. BTW, Bequette might have been cut in a heartbeat had there been more competition.

That being said, Boyce will be given every opportunity to make the team.

Boyce is a fourth round pick who showed promise at the end of the season. If they kept Bequette last season I see no way that they give up on Boyce. Also he is extremely talented.

Dobson should be full recovered by May, June at the latest so I doubt he goes on PUP.
 
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I didn't think that Bequette was a 4th rounder. Perhaps you think you remember better. BTW, Bequette might have been cut in a heartbeat had there been more competition.



That being said, Boyce will be given every opportunity to make the team.


Bequette was a third round pick #90 and Boyce was a fourth #102. I don't think 12 spots will make a difference especially considering Boyce played his best football in his final three games.
 
You have to do the arithmetic.

You keep saying that Amendola will stay this year. Surely, Dobson and Edelman will stay.

We have Thompkins, Boyce and Harrison returning. And yet, Belichick finds the need to sign LeFell and is looking to sign Britt.

Boyce may have played his best football in the last three games. However, as of now, I would think that he is clearly the #5 receiver behind Edelman, Dobson, Amendola and LeFell.
And Boyce is defending his roster spot against Thompkins, Harrison, Britt and anyone else that Belichick brings in.

Obviously, there may be injuries, as there were last year at TE. However, as now Harrison, THompkins and maybe Britt are after Boyce's roster spot.

To put in another way, if Boyce is safe, Belichick is wasting a lot of time, money and effort. And Belichick doesn't do that.

Bequette was a third round pick #90 and Boyce was a fourth #102. I don't think 12 spots will make a difference especially considering Boyce played his best football in his final three games.
 
In Amendola's last game. Edelman had 10 receptions, Vereen had 5, Collie had 4, Dobson had 4 and Amendola had 0


Ya think that may have had something to do with the fact that we had absolutely no real capable receiving options, outside of the fact that Denver would give up some catches to Edelman inside of the 10 yard range?

I'm sure our receiving options almost kept Denver's coaches up at night leading up to the AFCCG in preparation. Amendola didn't receive any targets, outside of ONE measly attempt. That's because it wasn't too difficult deciding who to cover and how to approach their defensive gameplan. Obviously, Brady did not like the matchup.

If you really see this as the "norm," I'm not sure what to say? We all saw Amendola look very good in the prior game vs the Colts. It was a matchup aspect.
 
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