Jacky Roberts
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
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The timing is all bad for the Jest regardless, even missing much of Training Camp BB could have this kid ready to step in by midseason, and have him locked up for another five seasons. I'm sure the sticking point is Tangeni trying to lock this kid up for six years in the face of Nate Clements - a problem the Pats would also have with him.I think this has to do with timing...good for the Jets..getting a player that is a thorn away..and getting a player (much more proven from NE). Timing is bad for NE...as the FO needs to stay strong on this. In other circumstances..it might be OK but not now. Samuel needs his money and will report or risk becoming irrelevent and having a bad year. Trading him now is giving in and that is NOT the way this FO needs to be now. GREAT for teh Jets..no deal.
This is a juvenile thread based on something that has absolutely, positively NO CHANCE IN HELL of ever happening.
This trade Idea is ALL about supposition and the assessment of value.
I didn't start this thread, but since I'm the one getting both the credit and blame , I thought I'd elaborate....or at least explain my positon better.
If the Pats believe that Samuel will be in on the field for the first game, or the Jet believe that Revis will be in camp in a few days, then OBVIOUSLY nothing is going to happen.
This trade Idea is ALL about supposition and the assessment of value. Lets suppose the Pats have a reasonable expectation that Samuel DOES plan to sit out the 10 games that has been talked about. If that were so, then the Pats would have to deal with a significant distraction for most of the season and THEN have a less than football ready CB for the last third of the season...and still be a distraction.
Lets say that the issues between the Jets and Revis are not close to a signing, and it looks like the hold out could be prolonged. THEN there is a definite reason for the 2 teams to talk.
Again the Jets get a top CB, that solidifies their secondary. Which is very important for them, since while our defense starts with the DL, theirs will have to start secondary. Revis is a great prospect but still wont give them what their defense needs right off the bat.
The weaken their most immediate rival in the division...somewhat. They get someone they can afford, and they now have one of the best back 4's in the league
The Pats can better afford to lose Samuel, since, in this scenerio, a big destraction would be eliminated. The Pats have more than enough talent at DL and LB to compensate for the loss of a premier talent at CB. Even without Sameul they have good solid guys to replace him. Maybe not to his level, but no chopped liver either. Also getting Wilson and Harrison back helps as well as the drafting of Merriweather.
They also add some needed size to the CB positoin. They get a guy who can reasonably be project to be a #1 type CB within 3 years. They get a guy who can come in IMMMEDIATELY and contribute in situational defenses. They get a guy who can contribute in the return game right away. They get a guy who is much more cap friendly over then next 5 years. And finally, they now have SIX first day picks in next year's draft.
BTW- if I were them, I'd give him a 5 year deal.
why would the jets trade someone who hasn't even played a down yet? sounds ******edI doubt it would happen since the Pats and Jets have as much love for each other as ... well the Pats and Jets.. I dont know if that would be a good 1 and 1 swap for the present, but the future would be pretty good at corner..
And, limited to that, it's an interesting intellectual exercise.
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Didn't we in effect trade Branch for an unproven rookie safety who has no NFL credentials nor played an NFL down?I can see Winfield traded in a swap from Minnesota or even an older Shawn Springs from Washington but all this talk about trading Samuel for an unproven rookie corner who has no NFL credentials nor played an NFL down is crazy,ludicrous and dumb this thread needs to end..quickly IMO
Didn't we in effect trade Branch for an unproven rookie safety who has no NFL credentials nor played an NFL down?
All first round picks are unproven rookies, and none have any NFL credentials or played a single NFL down, yet first round picks are highly desired. Teams like the Redskins who habitually trade away those draft picks for veterans are mocked and ridiculed, and further more, it hasn't turned out very well for them.
Franchising a player and trading him for a first round pick is a terrific idea. We've done it before, at least twice. Other teams have done the same thing. Peerless Price comes immediately to mind. In that trade, no one accused Buffalo of being crazy, ludicrous and dumb. Why all of a sudden is it crazy ludicrous and dumb for us to do it?
I'm not trying to change your mind if you think trading a franchised player for a first round (what? 14th overall?) pick in the draft is crazy, ludicrous and dumb. Just asking what makes it so, you know, crazy, ludicrous and dumb.
That's all I'm asking.
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