Winovich on the Trade Block?

[condon84]

He seems to have a better than average skillset ar rushing the passer and he's young. Unless he's a complete team cancer, why not utilize him in situations where he can use his strength while coaching him up to work on his weakness?

 

[Family]

Depends on his value to other teams. A 4th round pick is probably where I wouldn't be sure what call to make, with any better offers being an automatic take and any worse offers being an automatic leave.

He might not be a complete player, but he can contribute as a member of a rotation. He's probably closest to Uche in his role, and Uche seems to get hurt a lot.

He's like a home run hitter who hits for meh average and can be a liability in the field.

You have his value nailed.

 

[Triumph]

Chase Winovich went out of his way to say he's bought in to Bill Belichick's methods

New England Patriots outside linebacker Chase Winovich has had an interesting trajectory with the team, seemingly emerging as one of the top defenders at the start of 2020 before seeing his playing time reduced to a situational role. In midst of that fluctuation, he…

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[Mack Herron]

He led the team in sacks, QB hits and was # 2 in tackles for loss.

The only way I trade is for a good WR. Not another Dorsett or 5hitbum like that.

Or a good CB3

 

[farn]

I mean, a talent like Wino ? If this was the 80s I’d ask for Lawrence, Simms, and a first rounder.
But since we’re in modern times, maybe SF would cough up Jimmy and Kittles.

 

[Chevy]

Living in Mass tends to do that.

What did those 80's bumper stickers say? "Make it in Massachusetts" ... So, of course, our brethren to the north copied them and added "... and spend it in New Hampshire"

 

[Joey007]

People think we’ll get a 3rd for him? Lol be realistic here.

I’d rather keep Winovich. Cheap rookie contract, and does what he‘a good at very well. We don’t exactly have an endless supply of pass rushers to get rid of Chase just because “he’s a little too free spirited.” If I know I could trust Uche, I may feel differently. But I haven’t seen enough of Uche yet to know that.

I think a pass rush of Judon and Uche/Wino on the edges with additional blitz packages for KVN and Hightower sounds tastily familiar to what we saw in early 2019. Maybe even better from a pure talent standpoint.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Keep him.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

LB/EDGE
Hightower, Bentley, Judon, Van Noy, Uche, Perkins

DL
Wise, Guy, Godchaux, Anderson, Barmore

I have us with two more roster spots in the Front Six. I could see Belichick wanting someone other than Jennings and Winovich.

Options include Adams, Davis, Spence and Cowart.

I think it will be Jennings, Winovich or Davis, or all three. Cowart was nothing great last year. Adams was a maybe but not sure he has produced. The Pats have looked at Spence and nothing amazing there.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

People think we’ll get a 3rd for him? Lol be realistic here.

I’d rather keep Winovich. Cheap rookie contract, and does what he‘a good at very well. We don’t exactly have an endless supply of pass rushers to get rid of Chase just because “he’s a little too free spirited.” If I know I could trust Uche, I may feel differently. But I haven’t seen enough of Uche yet to know that.

I think a pass rush of Judon and Uche/Wino on the edges with additional blitz packages for KVN and Hightower sounds tastily familiar to what we saw in early 2019. Maybe even better from a pure talent standpoint.

Agree. Maybe a lot better when there is Barmore inside.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Our interior run defense still looks very soft.
How much of an opportunity are our pass rushers going to get when our defense can not get opposing offenses into third and long situations?

 

[Triumph]

Our interior run defense still looks very soft.
How much of an opportunity are our pass rushers going to get when our defense can not get opposing offenses into third and long situations?

If you cannot stop the run youre not a good defense.

 

[BTTA]

Our interior run defense still looks very soft.
How much of an opportunity are our pass rushers going to get when our defense can not get opposing offenses into third and long situations?

I don't think we have anywhere near the information necessary to make this judgement. The # of practices in pads, including the exhibition games, are far too few, and guys are all trying different things out during those times.

 

[Sicilian]

I don't think we have anywhere near the information necessary to make this judgement. The # of practices in pads, including the exhibition games, are far too few, and guys are all trying different things out during those times.

So far in the preseason, Pats are giving up 4.08 yards per rush. Last year was 4.53. So it's weird to me that people would try to make a snap judgment on whether or not the run defense is improved, but double weird that they make the snap judgment in the wrong direction.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying the run defense is definitely improved based on preseason averages. Just that we've seen nothing to indicate it hasn't been either.

 

[Kontradiction]

Agree. Maybe a lot better when there is Barmore inside.

Eventually, maybe. But Barmore’s been put on skates so far against the run. Limited sample size, of course.

 

[Scotty]

I had similar feelings the first two pre season games and thought well the improved run defence does not seem to be doing that well. This is just down to my ignorance and expecting too much too soon. If Barkley plays in the game later this week we should see more assuming the starters play each other

 

[Ring 6]

LB/EDGE
Hightower, Bentley, Judon, Van Noy, Uche, Perkins

DL
Wise, Guy, Godchaux, Anderson, Barmore

I have us with two more roster spots in the Front Six. I could see Belichick wanting someone other than Jennings and Winovich.

Options include Adams, Davis, Spence and Cowart.

We put twice as many from group A on the field in base D than group B and it’s even more weighted that way in sub.
I expect all of Jennings, winovich and Davis to make the team in addition to your list.

 

[Ring 6]

Eventually, maybe. But Barmore’s been put on skates so far against the run. Limited sample size, of course.

He should be used as a pass rusher for now.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

It's a numbers game and there are a lot of edge and LB players on the team. Winovich and Bentley need to step it up.

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[Kontradiction]

He should be used as a pass rusher for now.

That’s where I saw him in his rookie season when we drafted him. 3-tech sub-rusher in obvious passing situations. I suspect he will anchor better against the run as his career progresses.