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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Then the Pat's are in trouble.Lots of 1st/2nd round WRs are not difference makers in Y1. BB is always slow in bringing rookies along.
And. A LOT of BUMS.Then the Pat's are in trouble.
Kraft isn't going to screw around losing and forking out draft picks and money on busts..Bobby Grier found Terry Glenn.
Join the club of posters who think that the patriots are in trouble if our 2nd-4th rounders aren't difference makers as rookies. Of course, no one on Belichick's staff is a member of that club.Then the Pat's are in trouble.
Kraft isn't going to screw around losing and forking out draft picks and money on busts..Bobby Grier found Terry Glenn.
It is difficult for a QB to trust a WR if the ball thrown his way has a low probability of completion. Harry hasn’t earned the trust and some balls thrown his way end up being interception.I do not believe harry is soft.
I believe harry’s game is built on 50-50 balls and bb does not want our qb’s throwing 50-50 balls.
Harry is frustrated because:
1.) he does not have the suddenness to create separation.
2.) when he runs his routes and is in great position to win a 50-50 ball, none of our qb’s are willing to throw those to him.
3.) he was able to carve out a niche as a blocker on running plays, but that impact will not help him get a big second contract.
A change of scenery is over due. I do not blame harry for skipping ota’s. I think it is in his best interest to do whatever it takes to get to Chicago, the giants, Dallas or Washington, where he will see tons of 50-50 balls.
Then the Pat's are in trouble.
Kraft isn't going to screw around losing and forking out draft picks and money on busts..Bobby Grier found Terry Glenn.
Contrary to popular belief, this isn't true. And this goes for any position that Bill has drafted. Deion Branch had plenty of playing time with 68 targets as a rookie. Bethel Johnson wasn't good enough to get targets over Branch, Brown, Patten and the emerging Givens, but made an instant impact at kick returner. However, he did get time when they took shots downfield on play action passes. Both Chad Jackson (when his hamstring wasn't acting up), Aaron Dobson and N'Keal Harry (when he came back from injury) were thrown in the fire and played right away because they had nobody else.Lots of 1st/2nd round WRs are not difference makers in Y1. BB is always slow in bringing rookies along.
What?2 WRs who catch the ball. Meyers 66% and Bourne 78%. 2021 New England Patriots Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com But, the Pats improved the 2022 passing defense getting rid of JC Jackson so ya getting rid of Meyers is another win - win.
Contrary to popular belief, this isn't true. And this goes for any position that Bill has drafted. Deion Branch had plenty of playing time with 68 targets as a rookie. Bethel Johnson wasn't good enough to get targets over Branch, Brown, Patten and the emerging Givens, but made an instant impact at kick returner. However, he did get time when they took shots downfield on play action passes. Both Chad Jackson (when his hamstring wasn't acting up), Aaron Dobson and N'Keal Harry (when he came back from injury) were thrown in the fire and played right away because they had nobody else.
With that being said, if Thornton can play or a bunch of injuries occur, Bill is not going to hold him back.
What?
He’ll have to prove himself on special teams first, they can’t roster a guy who can only run a couple of fly patterns and plays no special teams. He was out there in punt coverage in OTA’s, so that’s a good sign.I'm hoping they give Thornton some simple Go Routes, he's fast enough to blow by many 1 on 1s, and they'll HAVE to account for that with a safety.
2nd round picksLots of 1st/2nd round WRs are not difference makers in Y1. BB is always slow in bringing rookies along.
Neither were the sea fairing guys working for the Captain of the Titanic.Join the club of posters who think that the patriots are in trouble if our 2nd-4th rounders aren't difference makers as rookies. Of course, no one on Belichick's staff is a member of that club.
Then the Pats are in trouble? Could you be more dramatic? Maybe chill a bit? I am sure the Pats are going to survive.
Realizing of course that the list of failures dwarfs this one by a Grand Canyon sized gap.2nd round picks
Mike Thomas 1000 yds 9 tds
Chase Claypool 873 yds 9 tds
Tee Higgins 908 yds 6 tds
Ju Ju Smith 917 yds 7 tds
Sterling Shepard 683 yds 8 tds
AJ Brown, DK Metcalf the list can go on all day.
Harry doesn't even know how to line up some of the time. It's 100% his faultI do not believe harry is soft.
I believe harry’s game is built on 50-50 balls and bb does not want our qb’s throwing 50-50 balls.
Harry is frustrated because:
1.) he does not have the suddenness to create separation.
2.) when he runs his routes and is in great position to win a 50-50 ball, none of our qb’s are willing to throw those to him.
3.) he was able to carve out a niche as a blocker on running plays, but that impact will not help him get a big second contract.
A change of scenery is over due. I do not blame harry for skipping ota’s. I think it is in his best interest to do whatever it takes to get to Chicago, the giants, Dallas or Washington, where he will see tons of 50-50 balls.
Realizing of course that the list of failures dwarfs this one by a Grand Canyon sized gap.
Just a terrible excuse.The average NFL career lasts three years.
The old WR crap shoot has been rough sledding for the last 20 years.The draft is a crapshoot and a large majority of rookies don’t make it past their first contract… and offensively WR’s have the highest rate of failure among all positions.
Edelmam was not a WR when drafted but he is all you have to hang your hat on.Players develop at their own speed, sometimes they explode out of the gate, sometimes they don’t emerge until year four like Julian Edelman… who, negative nancy’s will deny this, but by year four they were calling him an injury prone bust here and on the old boston.com forums.
Give Brady a couple of gluten-free avocado beers, and he’ll give you chapter and verse of his screwups.Harry doesn't even know how to line up some of the time. It's 100% his fault
What is going to happen by keeping Thornton, who may not be ready to contribute much his first year? Answer. We have to sacrifice a receiver. I hope it’s not Myers. He EARNED it.
We can only keep so many.
So you cherry picked a few WR's who worked out while ignoring the vast majority who didn't... got it.I stated this FACT
Other teams draft 1st/2nd round WRs and they go out and prove why they were worth the pick in that round.
Then after a cursory search I listed 6 teams.
The average NFL career lasts three years... that's a factual statement not an excuse.Just a terrible excuse.
Its OK to have bad drafts because the average career is only 3 years anyway!
Without bothering to look it up I'd bet the Patriots have drafted fewer WR's than just about any team in the NFL over the last twenty years.The old WR crap shoot has been rough sledding for the last 20 years.
Edelman was drafted to convert him to WR... they didn't draft him as a 5'11" QB... stop being intentionally obtuse.Edelmam was not a WR when drafted but he is all you have to hang your hat on.