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Why is everyone bad mouthing Dont'a Hightower?

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When you lose your starting 2 DTs and your starting MLB, it's a little silly to blame it all on Hightower. Clearly, his play has declined in lieu of the injuries, and some of that is on him and some of it is these other circumstances.

Either way, for some time I've wanted the coaching staff to tap into his bullrush and pass rush moves more. If we continue to move Chandler inside on some pass downs, maybe Hightower is a good option at rush DE. He did it at Bama, he's been successful as a blitzer here, and he might be more effective than Buchanan/Carter. It also gives you some flexibility in terms of dropping him and maybe blitzing Spikes or Collins up the middle.
 
Well put him on the line and if he's still useless then cut him. He didn't play that fast at Alabama...there's something to be said for drafting playing speed and instincts instead of measureables.
 
People commenting on his weight need to read his interview with Reiss last week. Its BB who wants him at 270lbs. NFL players cant just maintain whatever fitness they want. So blame bb for his weight if you think that is the problem.
 
When Troy Brown and TY Law who were professional football players talk about Hightower they just laugh.ound: I would take their opinions over anybody on patafans.com.

And when it comes to linebackers, I would take Tedy Bruschi and Bill Belichick's opinions over either Brown or Law. Tedy says be patient and give him time to work out the new role (or get put back into the one he's better suited for), and Belichick offered praise for Hightower that is unusual for him. If BB doesn't like what a player is doing, he says nothing. He doesn't go out of his way to overstate the player's value like he did in the Salk interview. Just because a guy doesn't make splashy plays and big hits doesn't mean he's not a contributing member of the defense, or that he has no room to grow.
 
And when it comes to linebackers, I would take Tedy Bruschi and Bill Belichick's opinions over either Brown or Law. Tedy says be patient and give him time to work out the new role (or get put back into the one he's better suited for), and Belichick offered praise for Hightower that is unusual for him. If BB doesn't like what a player is doing, he says nothing. He doesn't go out of his way to overstate the player's value like he did in the Salk interview. Just because a guy doesn't make splashy plays and big hits doesn't mean he's not a contributing member of the defense, or that he has no room to grow.

Hey I would love to see the guy do good but I am not holding my breath. Also I hope the Offense have the Balls last and not he other way around from now on. I have no confidence in this Defense getting a stop against a Good Teams.
 
Whether it's because Mayo's out of not, Hightower sucks right now. If it's because he's out of his comfort role or whatever, either change his role or bench him.

They already did change his role after Mayo went down. And you assume there's someone on the roster currently who is better capable of playing Hightower's role than Hightower.
 
That's Bull you know what so because those guys are on IR he cannot make play. When was the last time he made a positive play??? I am still waiting??? Sorry guys but I don't make Excuses for First Round Draft picks you are either Good or you Suck...Hightower is quickly becoming the latter. When you can see how in-effective a guy is on TV that says alot.:snob:

Why do I get the feeling you could substitute Mayo or McCourty for Hightower and we'd find posts of yours from back in the day that read almost exactly like this one?
 
Why do I get the feeling you could substitute Mayo or McCourty for Hightower and we'd find posts of yours from back in the day that read almost exactly like this one?


I was just going to make the exact same post but in truth you could put Brady, Wilfork, Solder or anyone else on this team and it would be true.
 
I was just going to make the exact same post but in truth you could put Brady, Wilfork, Solder or anyone else on this team and it would be true.

Don't forget Gostkowski!
 
He's a first round pick who is being thoroughly outplayed by Dane Fletcher. That's not a good sign for him. I'm still hopeful that he'll perform better when he's playing in a role that's more suited to his talents, but at this point he hasn't shown the ability to do anything especially well. I understand the angst, although I agree that people need to be patient with him.

I also think it's a problem of expectations, in part. The general consensus on this board was that he was more pro-ready than Chandler Jones was (I'm going to take a moment and pat myself on the back here, since I thought the opposite). While that didn't turn out to be true, he did show flashes of real, disruptive talent as a rookie. He seems to have regressed from that this year.

I have a couple of theories for why that apparent regression has happened. The first is that his greatest weapon is his versatility. While I think he might be miscast as a 4-3 OLB (particularly on the weak side), he can play credibly as a MLB, 3-4 ILB, and can even take some snaps as a 4-3 DE (or DT in rare situations). As a rookie, he was given limited opportunities to rush the passer, and he made the most of those rare opportunities with 4.5 sacks. That's what's missing this year. I think the injuries across the defense have forced the Pats to play a more basic defense across the board, and the result is that a guy like Hightower, who derives a lot of his value from being versatile/unpredictable, becomes less valuable. Conversely, a guy like Chandler Jones, who simply wins his matchup over and over again, maintains his value.

In an ideal situation, Mayo and Wilfork come back next year fully healthy (or something close to it), and Collins has fully emerged as a swiss army knife in his own right. The end result is that you have a ton of rotating parts who can play all kinds of positions. A front seven that includes Mayo, Ninkovich, Hightower, and Collins should in theory be able to send the pass rush from basically anywhere without telegraphing what it's doing, since all of those guys have the skill to drop into coverage without making total asses of themselves if the rush comes from somewhere else. I would really love to see it play out that way, because it would be something else to watch.

It also seems like Hightower wasn't handling playcalling well. When Mayo went down, Hightower took over the green dot, and I think the added responsibility really took him out of his game. IIRC, the coaching staff seems to have felt the same way, since I believe he's now been stripped of that responsibility.
 
Spikes and Hightower are being exposed for their lack of brains ... amazing how Mayo kept their brains focused ... oh well ... they tackle hard when they are in the right spot.

I don't know. I think Spikes earns his meals largely because of instincts and game IQ; he's obviously lacking in physical tools to be a well rounded LB,but I don't think you will ever see Hightower make a play on a ball like Spikes did in the 2011-2012 AFCCG. Spikes obviously follows his instincts into the wrong gap here and there (or every play last game), but I think we'll miss him when he leaves. He's the only guy on D who is anything close to an antagonist, which I think is an underrated characteristic for a defensive player.

If you're talking about work ethic and off the field idiocy, you might have something there because Spikes is a bit of a doofus, and Hightower may be as well. Mayo is a bit of a film junky and home body, so it's likely he has a leg up on Hightower and Spikes in that regard as well.
 
I don't know. I think Spikes earns his meals largely because of instincts and game IQ; he's obviously lacking in physical tools to be a well rounded LB,but I don't think you will ever see Hightower make a play on a ball like Spikes did in the 2011-2012 AFCCG. Spikes obviously follows his instincts into the wrong gap here and there (or every play last game), but I think we'll miss him when he leaves. He's the only guy on D who is anything close to an antagonist, which I think is an underrated characteristic for a defensive player.

If you're talking about work ethic and off the field idiocy, you might have something there because Spikes is a bit of a doofus, and Hightower may be as well. Mayo is a bit of a film junky and home body, so it's likely he has a leg up on Hightower and Spikes in that regard as well.

Re: off-the-field stuff, by all accounts Hightower is more a Mayo type than a Spikes type, at least from what I've heard.
 
I'm a believer. The only player i liked more in that Draft was Keuchly and he was out of reach. Like mayo and McCourty before him he is going through some growing pains but I believe he has all the intangibles to become everything we hoped for when he was picked Spikes will be gone next season and Mayo back, and i think that Hightower will be a big part of a really good LB corps. i am also hoping that Fletcher will take the same route as Ninkovich and continue to develop into a full time player.
 
In Hightower's defense. I think we have been very critical of him and very quick to praise Fletcher.

Fletcher had a good game vs Denver no doubt. But if you watched against the Texans Fletcher (from what i saw) got abused in the run game.

I am a big Hightower fan but have been as disappointing as anybody that he hasn't made the 2nd year leap i was hoping. but this as many have mentioned can be attributed to a mirriad of factors.

The one area that i had hope for in Pre season that has actually turned out to be a weakness was Hightower being able to cover that Seam route by TE's that seem to get NE so much. In his rookie year all we heard out of training camp was how he was blanketing Jimmy Graham out of NO. But that hasn't seemed to be the case in his pro career to date.
 
Despite his awful slowness and responsibility for directing the linebackers...He led the team in tackles and had a tackle for loss.

Who do we demonize next week?
 
Despite his awful slowness and responsibility for directing the linebackers...He led the team in tackles and had a tackle for loss.

Who do we demonize next week?

It's exacerbated by playing next to Spikes, who can't cover at all, so teams are running crossing routes they have to pick up and between the two of them it is creating all sorts of space, and it is going to continue to be exploited going forward unless they figure out how to adjust to it, which is complicated by their problems with their run defense, which basically requires Spikes to be out there as much as possible.
 
Despite his awful slowness and responsibility for directing the linebackers...He led the team in tackles and had a tackle for loss.

Who do we demonize next week?


That depends upon who has the bad game, or just doesn't earn enough fantasy points, either way they suck.
 
Despite his awful slowness and responsibility for directing the linebackers...He led the team in tackles and had a tackle for loss.

Who do we demonize next week?

He also had a pass defend.

To be serious though this beating down of Hightower is unfair he is clearly playing out of position at 4-3 WILL and 3-4 WILB look at the top players at those positions, consider their size and athletic ability compared to the 270 lbs. Hightower is playing with.

Patrick Willis – 6’1 240 lbs.
Luke Kuechly – 6’3 235 lbs.
Sean Lee – 6’2 235 lbs.
NaVorro Bowman – 6’0 242 lbs.
Jerod Mayo – 6’1 242 lbs.
Daryl Smith – 6’2 248 lbs.
Derrick Johnson – 6’3 242 lbs.
Brian Cushing – 6’3 249 lbs.
Lawrence Timmons – 6’1 234 lbs.
Bobby Wagner – 6’0 241 lbs.
Daryl Washington – 6’2 238 lbs.
 
It's exacerbated by playing next to Spikes, who can't cover at all, so teams are running crossing routes they have to pick up and between the two of them it is creating all sorts of space, and it is going to continue to be exploited going forward unless they figure out how to adjust to it, which is complicated by their problems with their run defense, which basically requires Spikes to be out there as much as possible.

Also, I think Spikes is nursing an injury, he doesn't look too nimble. People don't take into consideration how much defense is about well matched individuals playing together. Losing Mayo means losing the fastest experienced linebacker as well as the defensive quarterback, something Hightower has had to take on.
 
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