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Should the Patriots cut Tebow?

  • Cut Tebow

    Votes: 155 64.6%
  • Keep Tebow

    Votes: 85 35.4%

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Of course. Like I said, it's just a coincidence and I thought it funny since the armchair qb thought he would throw his dig in a tebow that I'd point out TB didn't do it in his first year either. But I'm sure he will come back at me and say how TB was soooo much better than Tebow, and he will be right. It was just something to share.

And lets just say, hypothetically, that Tebow does get better and turns into a starter down the road. I could say the same thing in a decade or more. It is unlikely, impossible if you ask some, but it could happen.

I think what separated Brady from others was his work ethic. He busted his ase to get to where he is. Credit for the fact he became what he is today from what he was is all on him.

Tim won't have the same career trajectory but by all reports he also has a great work ethic. It's up to him to get better. I like the kid, so I hope he does.
 
I think what separated Brady from others was his work ethic. He busted his ase to get to where he is. Credit for the fact he became what he is today from what he was is all on him.

Tim won't have the same career trajectory but by all reports he also has a great work ethic. It's up to him to get better. I like the kid, so I hope he does.

I agree completely, TB12 is one of the hardest workers (even in TC he expects himself to be perfect) and Tim is renowned for his work ethic. I highly doubt Tim ever gets close to having a career like Brady even if he does improve enough to become a starter some day, he just doesn't have that kind of arm talent. I think he could be an effective and winning QB someday with enough refinement, just not anything close to GOAT status like Brady.
 
I guess this is the Tebow thread (despite its negativity and useless debating), So i'll post this here instead of starting a new one:

Done deal: Tim Tebow will break camp with Patriots - Adam Kaufman - Boston.com Sports

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Done deal: Tim Tebow will break camp with Patriots
Posted by Adam Kaufman August 14, 2013 06:44 AM

Asked on Tuesday if third-string quarterback Tim Tebow will make the Patriots’ 53-man roster, head coach Bill Belichick said, “That’s not anything that we’re ready to talk about right now. A lot of competition out there. We’ll see how it all plays out.”

Belichick doesn’t have to talk about it because the question has already been answered. He tipped his hand the moment Tebow entered last Friday’s 31-22 preseason win over the Eagles for an injured Ryan Mallett late in the second quarter.
tim tebow 1.jpg
As bad as Tebow was in the victory – and he was, converting on 4-of-12 passes for 55 yards (a total diminished by three sacks) to go along with another 31 yards on four carries – he all but officially has a spot on the New England roster when the team breaks camp in a few weeks.

The reason? Belichick’s unveiling of an alternate offense.

Once Tebow took over for his two-plus quarters of action, the offensive formation changed at times to the Pistol, the NFL’s latest fad for mobile quarterbacks. Passing was no longer the top priority, as it would be with Tom Brady or Mallett under center. Instead, it was the read-option. Runs. Pitches. Short passes. None of the drop-back, downfield target practice.

More to the point, it displayed an expansion of the playbook, a willingness to break from the Patriots’ norm. The coaching staff says it was simply utilizing a player’s skill-set, just as it would with anyone else.

But, here’s the thing: it’s not necessarily simple. These are systems associated with the likes of Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III, and Russell Wilson, among others, not the 36-year-old, gun-slinging Brady. It’s a second offense that caters to the unconventional Tebow and simultaneously gives his teammates more work. Even if the separate scheme is only made up of 15 to 20 plays, the rest of the offense has to spend valuable practice time learning and adjusting. You don’t install such tactics or devote that kind of time and energy to a run-of-the-mill camp body who is a question to make the roster.

All of this for a guy who isn’t a good decision-maker, often looks like he’s panicking, doesn’t read defenses well, struggles with accuracy, holds onto the ball too long, and wouldn’t have a job in the league if not for Belichick and Pats offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, the man who drafted him in Denver. But, damn it, he’s a nice guy!

That last jab was unnecessary. In truth, I have nothing against Tebow. Really, my problem is with the media (yes, guilty) and its desire to constantly dissect the day-by-day performance of a Heisman Trophy winning college quarterback who, in all likelihood, will never be an above-average QB in the NFL. None of that is his fault. He’s a hard-worker who says and does all of the right things and, frankly, there isn’t a team in the game that couldn’t use more guys just like him – except with more talent.

Tebow, if he has any hope of becoming a more traditional quarterback, is a project, a long, long-term project. The Patriots are clearly invested in at least one season of seeing what may be there to mold.

Belichick knows that, like Liam Neeson in Taken, Tebow has a very particular set of skills, skills that can make him a nightmare for opposing defenses. He can run and take a hit, and his stretch of good fortune with the Broncos in 2011 proves he can complete a pass or two when it counts. However, he’ll never, ever – ever! – take a snap away from Brady. It just won’t happen. For Tebow to take the field at all, he’d either be alongside the future Hall of Famer in some type of Wildcat or goal-line strategy, or Brady would be on his way to the hospital.

Now, maybe, his value will be no greater than working with the scout team as an option QB who can help arm the Pats’ defense for its upcoming opponents. That could conceivably be helpful in prepping for the Dolphins, Jets, Bills, or Panthers, depending on how those teams shape their offenses. Tebow isn’t necessarily as fast as some of the guys the Patriots would face, but he has better wheels than the other two in-house options. Imagine that, Tebow does something better than Brady.

Tebow acknowledged after last Friday’s win that he has some room for improvement. That’s an understatement, and coaches Brian Daboll and Dante Scarnecchia have their work cut out for them.

Ultimately, though, the fourth-year pro will have that time to grow because he’s not going anywhere. Truth be told, there are people out there who expect him to bypass Mallett for the backup job by the Sept. 8 season-opener in Buffalo. I’m not there yet, but I don’t find the notion nearly as crazy as I did in minicamp.

Let’s just hope nothing happens to Brady. Foxboro isn’t ready for the Tebowmania era, and Tebow most definitely isn’t ready for the pressures in Foxboro.

Follow me on Twitter at @AdamMKaufman
 
Yes that's quite a game plan. Take the GOAT QB off the field so they can run the read option with a QB who struggles with doing even that. D coordinators won't know what hit them! ******* Brilliant!

I'm assuming reading isn't your strong suite?

However, he’ll never, ever – ever! – take a snap away from Brady. It just won’t happen. For Tebow to take the field at all, he’d either be alongside the future Hall of Famer in some type of Wildcat or goal-line strategy, or Brady would be on his way to the hospital.

Nice try though
 
I'm assuming reading isn't your strong suite?



Nice try though

If both are in the backfield, I hope he can block for #12 and do it well. That is all.

Maybe we'll see if there's anything to this new offense. Or maybe there isn't. Remember the Jets "secret Tebow offense"?
 
If both are in the backfield, I hope he can block for #12 and do it well. That is all.

Maybe we'll see if there's anything to this new offense. Or maybe there isn't. Remember the Jets "secret Tebow offense"?

While I completely agree about Tim needing to block and what not to get on the field with TB12, I trust JMcD and BB to come up with an effective gameplan over Sexy Rexy and Sparano.
 
While I completely agree about Tim needing to block and what not to get on the field with TB12, I trust JMcD and BB to come up with an effective gameplan over Sexy Rexy and Sparano.

Even if the gameplan is just a contingency on TB12 getting hurt (god forbid). Doesn't mean he's qb2, but it makes a lot more sense to have a special package utilized when Mallet is your guy than with the GOAT. He doesn't have to necessarily contribute to be an asset. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't step foot on the field once this year. Personally, I wouldn't mind him sitting in the back seat and focusing on development.

EDIT: sorry... meant to quote sb1
 
Not at all... I'm the worst speller I know... don't really care

you also are not a strong reader, or possibly, you are unable to understand how conversations work.
 
you also are not a strong reader, or possibly, you are unable to understand how conversations work.

Article said Tebow would never take snaps from Brady, Armchair said great game plan, referencing the article, take Brady of the field. G8or chided Armchair for not reading the article, then showed the quote where it said they wouldn't take Brady of the field.

Then someone called him on his spelling, then you chimed in. Not really sure about the rest of your comment.
 
I'm assuming reading isn't your strong suite?



Nice try though

Scanned it, not worth reading full story. Never heard of author. Sounds like one of you Tebow fanboys. Tom Brady doesn't need gimmick plays and yes, Tebow would presumably be getting some of those wildcat or goaline snaps and you'd be taking another accomplished player of the field. Dumb idea, Dumb article.
 
Scanned it, not worth reading full story. Never heard of author. Sounds like one of you Tebow fanboys.

It's refreshing, seeing a person who doesn't let a little thing like "reading" get in the way of making asinine comments that contradict the article he couldn't read. Bravo.
 
I guess I'll put the Tebow stuff in this thread.

Happy 26th birthday to Tim Tebow it's his birthday today.



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Scanned it, not worth reading full story.

So don't comment on it?

Never heard of author.

Ah yeah I agree, I only listen to guys we know like Borges or the curly-haired boyfriend.

Tom Brady doesn't need gimmick plays and yes, Tebow would presumably be getting some of those wildcat snaps. Dumb idea, Dumb article.

That's not the point. The point is that you don't put in an offense for a player you are thinking is just camp fodder. Brady won't be playing in gimmick snaps, imo, but I think that's a strong indicator that they're going to give this Tebow experiment a full season.

To be honest I don't think it'll pan out but I do think the guy will be on the final 53.
 
It's refreshing, seeing a person who doesn't let a little thing like "reading" get in the way of making asinine comments that contradict the article he couldn't read. Bravo.

Is Tebow going to be in for the wildcat and not get the ball snapped to him?
 
Is Tebow going to be in for the wildcat and not get the ball snapped to him?

I'm beginning to wonder if you're even capable of reading. Or maybe you're being willfully ignorant...?

What the hell does the wildcat have to do with anything?
 
I'm beginning to wonder if you're even capable of reading. Or maybe you're being willfully ignorant...?

What the hell does the wildcat have to do with anything?

He didn't read the article he assumes that it's in favor of Tebow out there with the ball in his hands in lieu of Brady sometimes.

But I mean it's easy to assume the article is pro-Tebow with quotes like this:

All of this for a guy who isn’t a good decision-maker, often looks like he’s panicking, doesn’t read defenses well, struggles with accuracy, holds onto the ball too long, and wouldn’t have a job in the league if not for Belichick and Pats offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, the man who drafted him in Denver. But, damn it, he’s a nice guy!
 
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